It was intentionally I excluded LC_IDENTIFICATION in comment #7, since I don't see how that category is related to regional formats. OTOH I agree that it needs to be included to be consistent in not changing the semantics.
Including LC_IDENTIFICATION also affects language-selector, so I added yet another task. ** Changed in: language-selector (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) => Gunnar Hjalmarsson (gunnarhj) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Translations Coordinators, which is subscribed to Ubuntu Translations. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/926207 Title: Set formats related LC_* variables when applicable instead of LC_MESSAGES, LC_CTYPE and LC_COLLATE Status in Ubuntu Translations: New Status in “accountsservice” package in Ubuntu: Triaged Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: New Status in “localechooser” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ubiquity” package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: Up to Oneiric the LANG environment variable has in Ubuntu been considered to represent the regional formats. Hence, in cases where a user wants to use different locales for language respective formats, LC_MESSAGES, LC_CTYPE and LC_COLLATE has been set explicitly. Consequently the installer has set those three variables in /etc/default/locale when applicable. In Precise we are making a conceptual change, meaning that LANG now is considered to represent the display language, and the formats related LC_* variables are set explicitly when needed to distinguish between language and formats. As mentioned at bug #590108, this is the rationale for the switch: * It's how GNOME does it in g-c-c, and considering that we are moving towards replacing the language-selector UI with "Region and Language" in g-c-c, it would eliminate one of the current differences in approach between Ubuntu and GNOME. * There seems to be quite a few desktop apps/tools, or parts of apps, that ignore both LANGUAGE and LC_MESSAGES for the display language, and let LANG solely determine the display language. (My LANG usually contains a Swedish locale, while my display language is English, and I often see Swedish translations in dialogs and menus.) * Some distributions may prefer the simplistic approach to equal l10n with simply picking a locale name and assigning it to LANG. If we would switch to let LANG represent the language, the LANG variable would be used for language all over, which would reduce the risk for confusion with respect to locale/language settings. Changes reflecting this switch have recently been uploaded to accountsservice and language-selector. Previous settings in /etc/default/locale and /etc/environment of LC_MESSAGES, LC_CTYPE and LC_COLLATE are deleted via accountsservice.postinst. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/precise/accountsservice/precise/view/head:/debian/accountsservice.postinst For fresh installs that code is skipped, so it's important that the corresponding changes are made to the installer: In cases when the user makes choices at installation meaning that the locale for display language differs from the locale for regional formats, the installer should set LC_NUMERIC, LC_TIME, LC_MONETARY, LC_PAPER, LC_NAME, LC_ADDRESS, LC_TELEPHONE, LC_MEASUREMENT and refrain from setting LC_MESSAGES, LC_CTYPE and LC_COLLATE. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+bug/926207/+subscriptions _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-translations-coordinators Post to : ubuntu-translations-coordinators@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-translations-coordinators More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp