On Sun, 2009-11-01 at 22:15 -0400, Andrew SB wrote: > On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Robbie Williamson <rob...@ubuntu.com> wrote: > > On Sun, 2009-11-01 at 22:19 +0000, Matthew East wrote: > >> On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Robbie Williamson <rob...@ubuntu.com> > >> wrote: > >> > You are absolutely correct :), and I've tried to correct these errors. > >> > Please review and let me know if things are better. > >> > >> Thanks Robbie - that looks better from a documentation team point of view. > >> > >> A couple of quick minor comments on a quick read of the schedule: > >> > >> 1. I'd say that the artwork deadlines are wrong. Currently the final > >> artwork deadline comes after the DocumentationStringFreeze, which > >> means that the desktop could in theory change at a time when it isn't > >> possible to update screenshots. That isn't a problem for the > >> documentation team at the moment, because we don't use screenshots in > >> the desktop documentation. Really artwork is covered by the current > >> definition of UserInterfaceFreeze > >> (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserInterfaceFreeze) so it would probably be > >> helpful to get this clarified. I think it was intentional that artwork > >> be covered by the UI Freeze > >> (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseProcess). > > > > To be honest, I questioned the need for these deadlines in the Karmic > > cycle at all. Until Karmic, there was no definition of these > > terms...just words in the schedule, so I tried to define them as best as > > I could :/. After reading the definition of UserInterfaceFreeze > > (again), I agree it needs to be clarified. I went to the Ubuntu Artwork > > page , and I believe these deadlines are for artwork that is packaged > > and made available as *Community-maintained* software (i.e. in > > universe). I've updated the definitions to make this clearer > > (hopefully), and de-emphasized the drops (i.e., moved them to the > > left-most column) since they aren't as critical to the release schedule > > as the deadlines & freezes, IMO. > > > >  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork > > > > I've also wondered about the usefulness of these deadlines. They've > felt very undefined in the past, especially the Artwork Deadline. That > aside, I can certainly tell you that the community artwork team didn't > define the > ArtworkFirstDrop , ArtworkSecondDrop , and ArtworkDeadline  > schedule. They have existed for quite some time. At the end of the > Jaunty cycle when we created the present selection process for themes > in the "community-themes" package.  We choose to use those > pre-existing deadlines in order to mirror the "official" artwork > deadlines. > > If we are indeed the only people using those, I would suggest removing > them from the release schedule all together. The official artwork > didn't follow this schedual at all during Karmic. As it stands now, it > simply seems to cause confusion. Just read all the disappointment on > the forums when an "Artwork Drop" passes with no changes to the > official theme. Works for me! :) I wanted to drop them, but as you can see, changes to the schedule always come with a "price" ;).
-Robbie > > - Andrew > >  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkFirstDrop >  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkSecondDrop >  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkDeadline >  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Documentation/CommunityThemes -- Robbie Williamson twitter/identi.ca: undacuvabrutha Ubuntu Foundations & Security Team Manager robbiew[irc.freenode.net] http://wiki.ubuntu.com rob...@ubuntu.com "You can't be lucky all the time, but you can be smart everyday" -Mos Def "Arrogance is thinking you are better than everyone else, while Confidence is knowing no one else is better than you." -Me ;) -- ubuntu-translators mailing list email@example.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators