El dc 15 de 09 de 2010 a les 13:55 +0000, en/na Sveinn í Felli va escriure: > Þann mið 15.sep 2010 10:57, skrifaði David Planella: > > > > That's a good point, and something I've wanted to address for a while. > > > > The policy is the one in: > > > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/TranslationLifecycle#FAQ > > > > i.e. "the world's top 11 languages come first, then the rest > > alphabetically" > > > > That has to be adapted again due to technical constraints, and Chinese > > (Simplified of Traditional) for example, while on that list, take too > > much space already on the language packs. We also add Xhosa, being the > > language where Ubuntu comes from. Finally, I'm not sure which sources > > were used to compile the top 11 languages, that was before my time. > > > > So, on the last few releases we've had the following languages included: > > > > * Hardy: German, English, Spanish, French, Portuguese > > * Intrepid: Bengali, German, English, Spanish, Portuguese, Xhosa > > * Jaunty: Bengali, German, English, Spanish, French, Portuguese, > > Xhosa > > * Karmic: Bengali, German, English, Spanish, French, Portuguese, > > Xhosa > > * Lucid: Bengali, German, English, Spanish, Portuguese, Xhosa > > * Maverick: Bengali, German, English, Spanish, Portuguese, Xhosa > > (list not yet definitive) > > > > It would be good to revisit this criterion, although it might be getting > > a bit too tight for Maverick. > > > > I'd like to consider not only the most spoken languages, but also the > > level of support or how active the community behind a language is. This > > could be done by additionally taking into account the list of supported > > languages for a release [1]. One last factor, although I cannot think of > > any easy way to measure it, would be how critical is that we add a > > particular language to the LiveCD. I'm thinking of languages spoken in > > areas with limited or no Internet connectivity. > > > > I welcome any suggestions and ideas. Translators, what do you think? > > > > Regards, > > David. > > > > [1] http://people.ubuntu.com/~dpm/ubuntu-10.04-translation-stats.html > > > > Good enough, anyway there has to be a choice, somehow... > > The LiveCD's are probably mostly used either by individuals > who'd like to test before installing, or for distribution at > local install-festivals and such. > > Unless there will be one day a sort of a "distro on demand" > service (where one selects preferred components), I doubt > there will be any interest in stockpiling ISO's for a huge > quantity of less finished localised versions of all the > Ubuntu variants (Usable ~120 languages ?). > Anyway, making your own spin with Remastersys is not that > hard, maybe good instructions on the wiki for doing so could > help some of the communities. >
Thanks Sven for the feedback. Some comments: > But in my opinion, the Debian/Ubuntu installer on every > LiveCD disk should come with all available (decently > finished) translations for the installer itself. > The user should be able to select their language as a first > part of the install process. > That's how the installer works already. > There could also be a tickbox with "Download all > language-packs for this language" and maybe another with > "Make this language the default one for all users on this > machine" This all happens automatically without having to tick boxes, depending on the language the user selected on the first installer screen. > Once the main install process would be finished, after > reboot, an post-install script could search for those > lang-packs either on network, internet or on a second > extra-langpack-CD. This way the user shouldn't be exposed to > any foreign gibberish ;-) > This happens during installation, so that when finished and after rebooting the user can use Ubuntu in his or her native language. Regards, David. -- David Planella Ubuntu Translations Coordinator www.ubuntu.com / www.davidplanella.wordpress.com www.identi.ca/dplanella / www.twitter.com/dplanella
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