On Wed, 2007-01-17 at 18:35 +0000, London School of Puppetry wrote: > I have seen whiteboard in a number of schools recently all working > brilliantly. Caroline
Using free software? Ubuntu, in particular? > On 17/01/07, Toby Smithe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi. I'm curious: do you have whiteboards and do they work? > > On Wed, 2007-01-17 at 09:42 +0000, Alistair Crust wrote: > > Hi, I would have to strongly disagree with your outlook > here. > > I talk from experience as a systems admin at Skegness > Grammar school in > > Lincolnshire. We have run LTSP with several different > distros for 3 years > > (Settling on Debian, then Ubuntu) on 100+ thin clients with > Ubuntu fat > > clients in most of the department offices and all services > web-filtering, > > email, intranet etc using Linux. Legacy apps are available > using win2k3 > > Terminal services. All curriculum teaching is done using > Linux. We are now a > > Maths and Computing Specialist school. > > > > Although I must admit any advances into education by OSS and > GNU/Linux in > > general will be, and have been, hard at first the more it is > used the more > > Managers, Teachers, Software vendors.. even school governors > wanting to make > > the most of their budget will see the benefits. > > > > To clarify I recently read in a blog post by Mark > Shuttleworth > > (http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/76) that for > hardware > > manufacturers it seems to be about critical mass... once > 5-10% of people are > > asking for Linux support only then will they care about > providing that > > support. IMHO this also is the case for software vendors. > > > > Without that critical mass in education, shouting to > manufacturers > > (hardware/software) then it will be a struggle for > advancement but not > > impossible. Once we have this critical mass, software > vendors and hardware > > vendors alike will care about why they are loosing out on a > viable and > > important revenue stream. With BECTA et al reiterating the > need for OSS this > > will help to grow the seeds of change..for the better. > > > > I would love to see some way that government could provide > funding to OSS > > projects to continue there sterling work. Funding that would > ordinarily go > > to proprietary systems that bear a great risk for vendor > lock-in. Look at > > the funding for the Compulsory.. sorry Optional KS3 ICT > Online...sorry > > On-screen Test....sorry Assessment. (This just shows the U > turn the > > government has done when they found out things were not > going as smoothly as > > they thought, and they had spend a shed load of tax payers > cash and it > > wasn't going to do what they wanted it to do). This cash > could have gone to > > funding something useful... even getting someone like > Canonicle to build an > > On-line distro neutral Test... something that works! > > > > To close, I know I haven't been the most active member of > the list as I have > > limited spare time. I did however feel compelled to add my > two peneth here. > > I'll get of my soap box now. > > > > Keep up the great work with OSS promotion.. as I said > critical mass, the > > more we chip away at this the better it becomes. To coin a > phrase "Every > > Little Helps!"(tm) > > > > Regards > > > > Alistair Crust > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Colin_The_Technician" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "British Ubuntu Talk" < [email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 11:21 PM > > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Open Source Challenges Vista at > U.K. Education Show > > > > > > >I was at the BETT Show and saw the Open Forum Europe stand > and the > > > Edubuntu CD's. Also the Internet cafe there was powered > by Linux. So > > > while it's good to see them at BETT I personally never > think Linux we > > > make any advances into education. And I say that as a > school Network > > > Manager. > > > > > > I say that because of the 190 poor written and designed > educational > > > applications we have on our network NONE of them have > Linux versions. > > > That is with one exception....the new Yr9 ICT SAT software > has a Linux > > > version and I noticed that just yesterday. > > > > > > I do promote OSS and Linux within education. I have > converted one > > > teacher and two students to Ubuntu. And given OpenOffice > to many > > > students who do not have MS Office on their home PCs. > > > > > > I believe OpenOffice, The GIMP and other OSS applications > could do > > > well in schools, but I believe the desktop OS will always > be Windows. > > > Mainly because myself and my colleagues (MS Admins) are > ten a penny :-) > > > > > > -- > > > [email protected] > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > > > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.12/630 - Release > Date: > > > 15/01/2007 20:28 > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Help me get to Venezuela! > http://tibsplace.co.uk/venezuela > > > -- > [email protected] > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ > > > > -- > > --- > London School of Puppetry > www.londonschoolofpuppetry.com -- Help me get to Venezuela! http://tibsplace.co.uk/venezuela -- [email protected] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
