Totally agree with Pete, I've lost count of how many times I've got a Linux conversation started by people glancing at the youtube beryl video im watching, i mean if you work with windows XP all day and then see something like beryl you cant help but be at least a little curious.
Steven Pepperell nd ubuntu-uk mailing list submissions to > [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Marketing: Promo Videos To: "British Ubuntu Talk" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Do you know what, Matthew - I don't think I could disagree more. Some well-placed videos on youtube have the potential to introduce lots of people to a non-Windows alternative. We should be exploiting *any and all* channels to get the message across that Ubuntu and open source offer a credible alternative to Mr Gates' products Pete > 7. Re: UK Marketing: Promo Videos (alan c) > 8. Re: UK Marketing: Promo Videos (alan c) > 9. Re: UK Marketing: Promo Videos (Matthew Larsen) > 10. Re: UK Marketing: Promo Videos (Pete Stean) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 17:43:50 +0100 > From: "Chris Rowson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu viral videos > To: "British Ubuntu Talk" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi folks, > > I've been bashing this idea around on the mailing list for a bit, but > thought I'd come and shout about it here to in case I'd missed anyone > ;-) > > The idea is to raise the brand awareness of Ubuntu by using the power > of viral marketing. We'd like to create something like the > www.firefoxflicks.com project, but for Ubuntu. > > Contributors will be able to submit short films advertising Ubuntu > where they will then be voted upon by site visitors. > > Are you interested in helping? > > At the moment, we're not looking for people who want to make videos > (that'll come when the project is up and running). Just now it'd be > nice to get people involved in getting something together which allows > other people submit their videos to us. > > So, what can you do? > > At the moment we have an offer from a couple of youtube.com like video > sites who will help us to host the videos, so hosting is pretty much > covered. What we need is > > 1) Techies. A front end which we can use to showcase the videos on > like ubuntuvideo.com, and to display info to people on how they can > get involved. > > 2) Ambassadors. Liasing with organisations like Universities and > Colleges to invite them to submit create and submit videos. > > 3) Advocates. Are you a social networking ubermeister? As we get up > and running we'll need help spreading the word. > > 4) Marketing wizards. We need help creating guidance for project > submissions. > > 5) Anything else. If you've thought of something I've missed, then > please tell me! > > Get in touch! > > Please add your name to the wiki page (displayed below) if you are > involved in/want to be involved in the ubuntu viral videos project. > You can also get in touch via the marketing mailing list, > #ubuntu-viral-videos on IRC (freenode.net) and of course by using the > wiki. > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/UbuntuViralVideos > > I believe we that if this idea is executed properly, that it can > definately make a difference. We need you! > > Cheers > > Chris > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 19:14:18 +0100 > From: "Ian Pascoe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [ubuntu-uk] UK Marketing: Promo Videos > To: "British Ubuntu Talk" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Following on from recent posts about Viral videos and screencasts, is > there > such a thing as a promo video / DVD, that could be left runing on > something > as part of a stand? > > Just thought that something like that is a trap for people to watch > without > necessarily actually having to speak with someone. Knowing how > conservative > we Brits are, it's just another way to get the punters talking .... and > apart from which it'd be damn useful to give to those waverers.. > > Additionally, along the same lines, anyone aware of a getting started with > Ubuntu type of thingy that can be given away at the same time as a live CD > - > something like all the screencasts in one place that can be played on a > normal DVD etc. I know there's the Official Handbook, as I've got one! > > E > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 19:43:18 +0100 > From: alan c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Marketing: Promo Videos > To: British Ubuntu Talk <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > Ian Pascoe wrote: >> Following on from recent posts about Viral videos and screencasts, is >> there >> such a thing as a promo video / DVD, that could be left runing on >> something >> as part of a stand? >> >> Just thought that something like that is a trap for people to watch >> without >> necessarily actually having to speak with someone. Knowing how >> conservative >> we Brits are, it's just another way to get the punters talking .... and >> apart from which it'd be damn useful to give to those waverers.. >> >> Additionally, along the same lines, anyone aware of a getting started >> with >> Ubuntu type of thingy that can be given away at the same time as a live >> CD - >> something like all the screencasts in one place that can be played on a >> normal DVD etc. I know there's the Official Handbook, as I've got one! > > I have often displayed, prepared with various options, including > amarok with visualisations, or a video, or some simple how to's about > updates etc. However, the most interest is often when I happen to be > messing around in the file managers explaining to someone and doing > something or another. I think people are interested in a real (live) > situation, and the context of a real person with a word or two is > easier to grasp (and more fun) than watching a demo file, probably > aimed at a different context. This is similar to what I find for > myself when I am wandering past exhibitions. I will often eavesdrop > into a demo or conversation, rather than stand and look at a demo > playing - which is often aimed at somebody else's situation. > > hth > -- > alan cocks > Kubuntu user#10391 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 20:02:09 +0100 > From: "Chris Rowson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Marketing: Promo Videos > To: "British Ubuntu Talk" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On 22/08/07, Ian Pascoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Following on from recent posts about Viral videos and screencasts, is >> there >> such a thing as a promo video / DVD, that could be left runing on >> something >> as part of a stand? >> >> Just thought that something like that is a trap for people to watch >> without >> necessarily actually having to speak with someone. Knowing how >> conservative >> we Brits are, it's just another way to get the punters talking .... and >> apart from which it'd be damn useful to give to those waverers.. >> >> Additionally, along the same lines, anyone aware of a getting started >> with >> Ubuntu type of thingy that can be given away at the same time as a live >> CD - >> something like all the screencasts in one place that can be played on a >> normal DVD etc. I know there's the Official Handbook, as I've got one! >> > > Well hopefully this'll be one of the outcomes of the viral videos > project. Any adverts created will be available for users to do as they > wish with. Using as a promo video at a show would probably be quite a > cool usage. > > Chris > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 21:41:20 +0100 > From: "Ian Pascoe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Marketing: Promo Videos > To: "British Ubuntu Talk" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Hi Alan > > Yep, see what you mean about the human factor. > > But, how did you know that the promo videos on stands as you were walking > around were aimed at other people? Is this your past experience and you > deliberately ignore 'em, or do you watch a couple of moments just to make > sure that you're not really missing something? > > There's bound to be some psycological marketing type paper that gives > facts > and figures, but from a personal viewpoint the promos are normally watched > whilst passing the relevant stand. Admittedly only to find out why there > are either so many people gathered around this stand or none at all around > that stand. > > And of course it gives the punters something to watch whilst they're > waiting > to speak to you. > > Chris, yep something along those lines for content kinda makes sense. But > it depends how, well, professional they are. I'll wonder over to the > mozilla site you quoted and have a look see later on. > > Anyhows, thought I'd throw the idea to the floor and see what responses I > got. > > E > > PS Is everyone on holiday this week as the list seems awful quiet? > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of alan c > Sent: 22 August 2007 19:43 > To: British Ubuntu Talk > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Marketing: Promo Videos > > > Ian Pascoe wrote: >> Following on from recent posts about Viral videos and screencasts, is > there >> such a thing as a promo video / DVD, that could be left runing on > something >> as part of a stand? >> >> Just thought that something like that is a trap for people to watch > without >> necessarily actually having to speak with someone. Knowing how > conservative >> we Brits are, it's just another way to get the punters talking .... and >> apart from which it'd be damn useful to give to those waverers.. >> >> Additionally, along the same lines, anyone aware of a getting started >> with >> Ubuntu type of thingy that can be given away at the same time as a live > CD - >> something like all the screencasts in one place that can be played on a >> normal DVD etc. I know there's the Official Handbook, as I've got one! > > I have often displayed, prepared with various options, including > amarok with visualisations, or a video, or some simple how to's about > updates etc. However, the most interest is often when I happen to be > messing around in the file managers explaining to someone and doing > something or another. I think people are interested in a real (live) > situation, and the context of a real person with a word or two is > easier to grasp (and more fun) than watching a demo file, probably > aimed at a different context. This is similar to what I find for > myself when I am wandering past exhibitions. I will often eavesdrop > into a demo or conversation, rather than stand and look at a demo > playing - which is often aimed at somebody else's situation. > > hth > -- > alan cocks > Kubuntu user#10391 > > -- > [email protected] > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 21:44:45 +0100 > From: Jim Kissel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Marketing: Promo Videos > To: British Ubuntu Talk <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > > Ian Pascoe wrote: >> >> PS Is everyone on holiday this week as the list seems awful quiet? >> > Only all of Europe, or so it seems. Not only are the mailing lists I > subscribe to quite, there is not much news either or so it seems to me. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 08:03:11 +0100 > From: alan c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Marketing: Promo Videos > To: British Ubuntu Talk <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > Ian Pascoe wrote: >> Hi Alan >> >> Yep, see what you mean about the human factor. >> >> But, how did you know that the promo videos on stands as you were >> walking >> around were aimed at other people? Is this your past experience and you >> deliberately ignore 'em, or do you watch a couple of moments just to >> make >> sure that you're not really missing something? > > I think it is the experience I have of living in a retail and > marketing saturated environment - I am tuned to (mostly) ignore things > which are overtly aimed at me as a potential consumer. Apps like Tux > Paint within easy reach will get attention of kids, they are lookig > for fun. I guess it depends a lot on who the passing audience actually > is, and how relevant the video is, both nice marketing judgments. > > -- > alan cocks > Kubuntu user#10391 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 08:05:54 +0100 > From: alan c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Marketing: Promo Videos > To: British Ubuntu Talk <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > Jim Kissel wrote: >> >> Ian Pascoe wrote: >>> >>> PS Is everyone on holiday this week as the list seems awful quiet? >>> >> Only all of Europe, or so it seems. Not only are the mailing lists I >> subscribe to quite, there is not much news either or so it seems to me. > > now is the time then to field the type of story about > 'Man bites Windows!' > :-) > -- > alan cocks > Kubuntu user#10391 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 09:44:41 +0100 > From: "Matthew Larsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Marketing: Promo Videos > To: "British Ubuntu Talk" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hey all, been a while > > IMO I think the idea of viral videos is a waste of time. When have > they ever worked? I personally think its just a buzz-word and a > marketing experiment gone crazy. We need to stop trying to 'trick' > people in to moving to Linux. We need to show people the benefits and > the facts, none of this bulls**t lifestyle 'join the crowd' bollocks > that floats around too much. People make up their own minds to switch, > its just about raising awareness, crushing the myths and informing > people. IMO that's what will REALLY get people to switch en masse > > I think using live demonstrations is a fantastic idea. People get to > see what happens, ask questions and immediatly get shown how to do it. > This could even be extended to using pre-recorded demo's for common > tasks etc. > > On another note hope everyone is having a good summer! > > Regards, > > On 23/08/07, alan c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Jim Kissel wrote: >> > >> > Ian Pascoe wrote: >> >> >> >> PS Is everyone on holiday this week as the list seems awful quiet? >> >> >> > Only all of Europe, or so it seems. Not only are the mailing lists I >> > subscribe to quite, there is not much news either or so it seems to >> me. >> >> now is the time then to field the type of story about >> 'Man bites Windows!' >> :-) >> -- >> alan cocks >> Kubuntu user#10391 >> >> -- >> [email protected] >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk >> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ >> > > > -- > Matthew G Larsen > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 09:53:19 +0100 > From: "Pete Stean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Marketing: Promo Videos > To: "British Ubuntu Talk" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Do you know what, Matthew - I don't think I could disagree more. Some > well-placed videos on youtube have the potential to introduce lots of > people > to a non-Windows alternative. We should be exploiting *any and all* > channels > to get the message across that Ubuntu and open source offer a credible > alternative to Mr Gates' products > > Pete > > > On 23/08/07, Matthew Larsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Hey all, been a while >> >> IMO I think the idea of viral videos is a waste of time. When have >> they ever worked? I personally think its just a buzz-word and a >> marketing experiment gone crazy. We need to stop trying to 'trick' >> people in to moving to Linux. We need to show people the benefits and >> the facts, none of this bulls**t lifestyle 'join the crowd' bollocks >> that floats around too much. People make up their own minds to switch, >> its just about raising awareness, crushing the myths and informing >> people. IMO that's what will REALLY get people to switch en masse >> >> I think using live demonstrations is a fantastic idea. People get to >> see what happens, ask questions and immediatly get shown how to do it. >> This could even be extended to using pre-recorded demo's for common >> tasks etc. >> >> On another note hope everyone is having a good summer! >> >> Regards, >> >> On 23/08/07, alan c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Jim Kissel wrote: >> > > >> > > Ian Pascoe wrote: >> > >> >> > >> PS Is everyone on holiday this week as the list seems awful quiet? >> > >> >> > > Only all of Europe, or so it seems. Not only are the mailing lists >> I >> > > subscribe to quite, there is not much news either or so it seems to >> me. >> > >> > now is the time then to field the type of story about >> > 'Man bites Windows!' >> > :-) >> > -- >> > alan cocks >> > Kubuntu user#10391 >> > >> > -- >> > [email protected] >> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk >> > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ >> > >> >> >> -- >> Matthew G Larsen >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> -- >> [email protected] >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk >> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-uk/attachments/20070823/32ed33f5/attachment.htm > > ------------------------------ > > -- > ubuntu-uk mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > > > End of ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 28, Issue 55 > ***************************************** > -- [email protected] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
