hey, not all us comp sci people are bad! :-( I am very much a geek tyvm. I'm a business geek.
I do understand what you are saying though. A lot of comp-sci grads just want to go away thinking they are the dogs bollocks in programming and what-not. But that simply isnt important to companies. Programming like that gets offshored to India where its cheaper; you NEED to have the business knowledge as well. Hence I get involved and ran a society, did film commissions and got myself on this placement year, ya de da de da... >From my (limited) experience in the IT world so far it seems that businesses are after people who use IT to solve or enhance business processes. As I say to others: It's not programming, its IT. Being a tech-head as I am the low-level stuff comes in incredibly useful. You know exactly what is and isnt possible and are able to have a MUCH wider range of tools and possibilities at your disposal to solve these business problems. If you know these techs inside-out and have the business knowledge to go with it you will be amazed at how much your opinion counts in the big decisions (especially if you save them money ;-) If VBA code running in Access is what they want, fine, no problem. If they want a distributed system running off the back of Oracle, fine, no problem. If they want to hop onto the latest web2.0 ajax ruby-on-rails tech bandwagon, fine, no problem. If what they want is total overkill and want more options fine, no problem. This is the advantage you get with CS degrees as opposed to IT degrees which focus more on the business side. The trick is finding the happy medium I think this needs to be made a lot clearer to CS students in (especially my) university. Not so much as in teaching it, but making them aware. A Computer Science degree IS a Computer Science degree not an IT degree. Regards, On 07/09/2007, Chris Rowson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is weird... > > I work with an IT department of say around a hundred people. Of which, > not one IT degree educated person knows how to administer a Linux > system. The only people who will do anything with Linux, Unix etc are > the fiddlers and hackers (mostly no degree or Uni drop-outs). > > We run a Windows based infrastructure where these people will not > administer or implement software unless they have attended a training > course specialising in it. > > This kind of beggars the question, what is the point of making a > degree a requirement for someone in systems support/administration? > > In my experience, I'd take 1 god to honest geek over 5 random comp sci > graduates any day of the week. Of course you do see geeks who go on to > uni to follow their interests which is also good too. I'd wouldn't put > the impetus on holding a degree however, I know too many people with > 'em who've had to ask for help recovering Windows XP ;-) > > Cheers > > Chris > > -- > [email protected] > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ > -- Matthew G Larsen > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [email protected] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
