On 30/10/11 16:45, Andy Braben wrote:

I would also think it unlikely to be UEFI that is causing the problem.
it is UEFI causing the problem, or more strictly speaking it is Ubuntu's imperfect support for UEFI on the 32bit desktop iso that is causing the problem. It isn't secure boot, which is an optional feature of UEFI. It isn't BIOS settings because this machine does not have a BIOS, it has UEFI instead.

UEFI is not in itself evil stuff, it is the next generation of BIOS, rather different to BIOS and that can cause issues with loading, but we just have to support the standards properly to do that bit (and the OEM has to be supporting the standards correctly too). The thing that has the potential to scupper us is the Secure boot feature of UEFI, which could be used to lock the hardware to only boot images signed with pre-loaded keys. This could potentially be used to make a machine that will only boot Windows 8 (or above). Such a machine would not boot any unsigned bootloader, which could include Ubuntu, Windows XP and Windows 7, which is on the machine in question, so secure boot would not appear to be involved in this problem.

Alan.

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