-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 14/02/13 19:24, Rowan Berkeley wrote: > On 14/02/13 18:28, Dave Morley wrote: >> On 14/02/13 18:12, Rowan Berkeley wrote: >>> An Internet friend of mine (in Denmark, so beyond my physical >>> reach) just bought a brand new machine with Windows 8 on it >>> and tried to install Ubuntu direct from the website, despite >>> my detailed explanations and warnings about this. She now has >>> no Windows 8 and no Ubuntu, just a GRUB screen telling her >>> that Ubuntu can't boot because "Secure Boot" in the UEFI won't >>> let it. It would be interesting to know whether the >>> installation direct from the website would have worked if she >>> had switched off "Secure Boot" first, as I told her she had to >>> do. The apparent consensus is that it wouldn't: that only the >>> USB stick method will work. There's no way into the UEFI from >>> where she is, is there? Before anyone says, "Can't she get into >>> it by pressing F2 during start-up?", the answer is no: >>> http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-access-the-bios-on-a-windows-8-computer/ >>> >>> >> >>> Did she install 32bit or 64bit Ubuntu, Secure boot is only available >> on 64bit. 64bit quantal + at that, >> > I understand what you're saying; Only 64-bit Quantal has the > license key built into it which will cause UEFI to allow the Ubuntu > package to install itself. I don't have this girl online. I dare > say she will respond to my suggestions and enquiries in a day or > two. I know she confirmed that the machine she was buying had a > 64-bit architecture, because up to that point she was following my > instructions. I think that she attempted to install 64-bit Quantal > direct from the Ubuntu website, but failed to switch off "Secure > Boot" in UEFI beforehand, which should have been done from inside > Windows 8, this being the way Microsoft (damn them) have built it. > Thus, the installation proceeded correctly, the license key having > served its function of getting UEFI to allow the installation to > occur. She chose the option of replacing Windows rather than the > option of dual boot (another indication of how foolhardy she is, > bless her). Thus, Ubuntu Quantal is in fact installed on the > machine. But the UEFI boot architecture does not contain the > traditional point of access by pressing F2 during start-up, so > there is no way for her now to access it and switch off "Secure > Boot". So the Ubuntu Quantal can't boot, and she's stuck with a > GRUB screen telling her so. >
No you can access the UEFI it just might not be F2. You can turn off secure boot from the UEFI. But my point is you don't need too, with Quantal 64bit it is signed so it can install on a machine that has UEFI and Secureboot in place. By the way it still normally is F2 - -- You make it, I'll break it! I love my job :) http://www.ubuntu.com http://www.canonical.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlEdOykACgkQT5xqyT+h3OilxQCgmlYH3AROboQsV42l2EFPU7kq j+4AoI9r7WUWq8MfnZCHcrcCI2I86ZJs =Vuf3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- [email protected] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
