Hi Robert: Good to hear from you. I actually had a thought that it is probably too inward looking because nobody really knows each other. Well, I know I don't really know anybody. I did take the time to read everyone's wiki that i could get a hold of. Here is mine: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/seidos. Do you have one?
Quite frankly, I don't really know of anybody on the team that i can really work with on stuff. I'm a part of this team and i still kind of feel alone. Probably my fault, i don't know. On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Robert Lewis <[email protected]> wrote: > This group is to inward looking and therefor self serving in my view. > I think we need to focus on the real common goals of helping others > in our efforts to promote Linux within the community. > > On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 8:30 AM, kdemarest <[email protected]> wrote: > > I couldn't help but get the feeling that we might be taking this > leadership > > election a little too seriously. Maybe it would help to point out the > > truism that a leader can't force anyone to do anything on our team. All > > they can do is make suggestions. I mean, from the looks of things we're > all > > volunteers for goodness sakes. The best that a leader can do is remind > us > > why we're here, in case we spend too much time chasing our own tails. I > > mean, if we refuse to do what the leader wants, who is going to force us? > > The FOSS police? > > We should probably be looking to ourselves for leaders, and not looking > > outside ourselves. Oftentimes, we expect too much from our leaders, > because > > we expect so little from ourselves. For this we probably owe our leaders > an > > apology. > > > > I still think the best leader is someone who is best at teaching. I know > > for me, personally, I need to connect with knowledgeable individuals who > can > > *gracefully* show me what I don't know. I mean, let's just get the fact > > that I'm an idiot out of the way, and let's just move forward to try and > > reduce my idiocy. -_- On this same line of thought, I would suggest > that > > ego is detrimental to Us. Wanting to help with FOSS is great, but if you > > don't have the knowledge, what good is the desire? And I don't mean to > > project my own feelings of inadequacy on the team, but I really don't see > > how the problems I see with Ubuntu, or GNU/Linux for that matter, are > > presently going to be solved. > > I talked to a friend yesterday. You know what she said? I mean, we all > > probably already know this, but it is probably worth repeating. "I want > > something that works and is cheap". How can I, in good faith, recommend > > Ubuntu to someone when this is what they are looking for? What is the > sound > > bite? They are not interested in philosophical notions of right and > wrong, > > monopolies being bad, etc. They want it to be cheap, and to work. > Enough > > said, end of story. I mean, having their ear is fine. I suppose the > best > > that can be done, at present, is planting the seed that there is a more > > ethical alternative, that may be cheaper and work better for them (but > > probably not on the latter). > > This all having been said, if I offended anybody with my candor, let's > talk > > about it. I am more than inclined to admit that I'm wrong with my > opinions > > based on my own limited personal experience. > > Speaking of personal experience, I know that my own insistence on working > on > > my own projects is a major reason why I'm doing them alone. So if you > have > > a project you want help with, even if it's just you in front of your > > computer "alone" on the Internet, by all means, let me know. Perhaps > others > > will feel the same way. > > So, this all having been said, here are the projects I'm presently > working > > on everybody. > > * Trying to figure out why top says that all but 52MB of my RAM is being > > utilized at present of 2GB > > * Trying to see if i can configure compiz standalone by following this > > guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompizStandalone > > * Figuring out how I'm going to host my website > > http://www.fictionalphilosophy.org > > * Reading Python the Hard way (ug, someone give me some motivation on > this > > one!). > > * Trying to figure out what all the processes in ps aux are for, and if > any > > can be eliminated. > > seidos > > -- > > Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list > > [email protected] > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca > > > > > > -- > Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list > [email protected] > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca >
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