I personally believe that a modern OS should include all languages out of box. OS X does this, Windows 8.1 is probably there also.
In the context of Ubuntu, we do have an annoying concept of language packs. I and others find it annoying because: * Net installing the language packs at the end of Ubuntu installation can have issues in too many ways * Installing languages packs after Ubuntu installation is confusing for beginners * As I tried some time ago, one cannot select all languages in language selector; there will be obscure error like locale running out of hash space Including ibus-pinyin is a workaround for language pack annoyance; at least there is some input engine there. Barebone ibus-table is definitely useless. But there are many counter-argument for ibus-pinyin inclusion: * It is merely useful for Simplified Chinese users; maybe they should use Ubuntu Kylin * Language pack of Simplified Chinese picks ibus-sunpinyin instead ibus-pinyin as Pinyin input engine * ibus-pinyin is not in good shape both upstream (almost dead) and downstream (outdated, problematic) * At English installation of Ubuntu requires non-intuitive enabling process of IBus engines (it is getting better because of keyboard-indicator, but keyboard-indicator has its blocking bugs) An alternative approach is that we include more IBus engines. We try to cover all the common languages (ibus-m17n should probably be avoided). We may reference GNOME/Fedora for a list of common IBus engines. I also wonder what is Ubuntu Touch doing on this issue. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Kylin Members, which is subscribed to Ubuntu Kylin. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1164252 Title: Improve default selection of IBus related packages Status in Ubuntu Kylin: Fix Released Status in “ubuntu-meta” package in Ubuntu: In Progress Bug description: Currently we have: """ Input methods: * (im-config) * (ibus) * (ibus-gtk3) * (ibus-table) * (ibus-pinyin) * (ibus-pinyin-db-android) """ This is suboptimal in many ways. 1. ibus-gtk should be included, since we have notable GTK2 applications like Firefox and LibreOffice. 2. ibus-table doesn't provide a working input method by itself, it needs at least one of ibus-table-* package to work. 3. ibus-pinyin is useful for only limited set of people; even Simplified Chinese language support defaults to ibus-sunpinyin while UbuntuKylin and LinuxDeepin (a noteable Ubuntu-based distro in China) switch to Fcitx altogether. The conclusion is that the real workhorse IBus related packages would be pulled by language support. For meta package like ubuntu-desktop, we either leave a barebone IBus (ibus, ibus-gtk, ibus-gtk3) or remove IBus altogether. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntukylin/+bug/1164252/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntukylin-members Post to : [email protected] Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntukylin-members More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

