Visit the 64-bit Ubuntu forum on ubuntu.com. The problems are widespread, not scattered.
I am long past the point of keeping a dozen or so OSs around. I had my day of being that kind of geek and it is long since past. I want a single OS to put on my workstation and notebook. While from time to time I will write something to run on Linux, I make my living working on OpenVMS and writing books. For me, a desktop/notebook OS is a terminal emulator with a built in word processor, email, and Web surfing. IT MUST REMAIN STABLE. I just wiped Ubuntu from my notebook, since that is the only box I can change over in about an hour. It takes 4 full days to change over my workstation due to all of the stuff I must save and configurations I must tweak after the install. It is not something I do lightly. I looked at Parsix, but they seem to take the same approach as Ubuntu..."We ship Gnome, hope you have enough bandwidth to DL everything else". Can't have that. I too have philosophical problems with Novell bending over for Microsoft yet again. I was there to be victimized first hand when they bent over and stopped doing development on DR DOS and DRM DOS (the multi-user version). I quit using SuSE before because I am certain the _exact_ same outcome will happen with the SuSE deal. Perhaps some day corporations around the world will realize that MS is a full blown HIV patient you shouldn't have unprotected sex with, but I don't see any sign of them learning soon. On Mar 2, 11:55 am, Roy Charles <[email protected]> wrote: > As I said, I have been using the 64-bit versions of 8.10 and 9.04 with so > much as a blip. I had previously used the 32-bit versions because I use lots > of multimedia and could not get Quicktime or Realaudio to act nicely. Now, I > am totally happy. Everything works including Flash, Realaudio and Quicktime. > > I use lots of distros. I run about a dozen at a time. I always keep one as > my main distro and the rest are my sandbox. I mainly run the 32-bit versions > simply because I want to give them the best opportunity to put their best > foot forward, so to speak. I am not loyal to Ubuntu when it comes to being > my main distro. I want to one that works the best and I will switch at the > drop of a hat. Distros in my sandbox include: Fedora 10, Sidux, Mepis 8, > Mandriva 2008, PCLOS, Sabayon, Elive, Opengeu, and the aforementioned 9.04. > Some distros are installed in box 32 qand 64 bit versions. I run every > possible desktop and bit of eye candy. > > Noticeable in their absence are SUSE and Debian. Debian because I have not > got around to it and SUSE because I have a few problems with Novell > philosophically in the way that they rolled over for Microsoft. I also have > a eeePC with eeeBuntu based on Intrepid and with Xandros that came > pre-installed. I don't use Xandros for the same reason that I am put off by > Novell. I will get over it, but when I have so much choice, why bother? > > I love having lots of choice. I really don't want everybody to migrate to > one distro or the choice dries up. So, I am not giving spin. What works for > one person may not work for another. On your hardware, 64-bit Ubuntu could > be a problem. I am active on several forums including three or four Ubuntu > specific ones and have not seen the kind of problems that you speak of. If > they exist, they are scattered and therefore meaningless statistically. > > I hope that you find what you are looking for and it would be nice to hear > you report back what you went with in the end. > > Cheers, > Roy > > Linux: Fast, friendly, flexible and ... free! > Support open Source > <,*)}}+< > Only dead fish go with the flow. > > 2009/3/2 yyyc186 <[email protected]> > > > > > See below > > > On Mar 2, 9:54 am, Roy Charles <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I use both 64-bit Intrepid and 64-bit Jaunty without any problems at > > > all. Don't fall into the trap that because you are having problems > > > everyone else is. > > > It's no trap. I went to the forums on Ubuntu.com. The release was > > far worse than I suspected even in my darkest thoughts. > > > > My opinion for what it is worth is that if you need something for > > > business and crave stability that you should not have been running > > > Intrepid in the first place. People who want stability should run the > > > LTS releases only. In your case it should have been Hardy. > > > Opinions are what they are. There was a requirement to upgrade for > > certain functionality. The upgrade didn't happen "just cuz". > > > > You could try 64-bit Debian or one of its variants. They just released > > > Lenny which is based on stable. I would suggest that MEPIS might be a > > > good fit. It uses Debian, but supports a newer kernel and it still > > > uses Synaptic. If you are going to move to RPM, try Mandriva. Fedora > > > is like Ubuntu. It is more bleeding edge and package kit is just plain > > > bad. Avoid Fedora if you crave stability. Likewise with openSUSE, IMO. > > > Their method of resolving dependency problems leads novices into > > > making poor decisions that result in instability. > > > SuSE has always been a hate-hate-forced relationship with me. KDE on > > SuSE is incredibly well done. RPM Hell and YAST kind of ruin the > > entire experience though. I won't look at an RPM distro other than > > SuSE though. If I _have_ to deal with RPM Hell I want to deal with it > > on a version that has a lot of _paid_ developers. No other RPM distro > > has the number of paid developers SuSE has. > > > Red Hat is something to avoid for the following reasons: > > 1) They hired the guy who added what passed for clustering to Tru/64 > > to do the same thing for them. > > 2) Oracle is now undercutting Red Hat on support contract pricing > > 3) Oracle has taken a source release of the Red Hat server edition > > and is creating their own server fork. That is why you now hear them > > talk of "Grid Computing" instead of "Clustering". OpenVMS from DEC > > (now HP) is still the first and only OS to do clustering correctly. > > Tru/64's implementation of clustering was pathetic and they had access > > to _all_ of the clustering source code in use at DEC. Clustering > > requires that the Unix kernel basically be re-written to OpenVMS. > > While I'm all for that, the 3-5 year learning curve required by two > > corporations involved in a p*ssing contest is going to leave a lot of > > people in the lurch. Any remaining "desktop edition" will be wildly > > forked away from the server edition. > > > I don't make the decision to move to a new desktop lightly. > > Conversion is a 4 day effort on my part and just for my primary > > workstation. I can't place myself at the mercy of releases which are > > so poorly tested. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ubuntu Linux" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/ubuntulinux?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
