Hi,Matt 

  first , thank your kind . According to your idea, I think it should do the 
process as below:

 1. mount a  tmpfs in RAM , cp upgrade-routine into tmpfs and execute it .

 2. umount root file system ,I only use "umount /" because of no '/dev/root' 
device,but in here , I also don't umount '/' , it will be shown 'device is 
busy'. I   want to find some process via 'fuser -m /' then to kill these 
process be using '/', but it  seems the busybox doesn't support 'fuser' command 
, so I don't know how to umount root filesystem .

3. erase /dev/mtdblock1 partition 

4. open /dev/mtdblock1 (use low 'open' function), and orderly write 64k size 
into file very time from httpd through ethernet interface,total 3M/64K (flash 
sector :64k)

5.when write data into flash ok, reboot the system 

if the program is operating item #4 , the device is be power off ,then the 
device's /dev/mtdblock1 will be destroyed lead not to use the device . I don't 
want to expect so result .

the device Basic information :
  hardware platform : mips r4000 
  kernel version : 2.4.25 
   uclibc library 
   busybox 
   flash : 4 M ( 3M as root file system jffs2 , 1M as Redboot and kernel image )
   RAM :8M (remain approximately 500K-1M after booting kernel and loading 
application)
   Upgrate file : jffs2.bin (3M), now don't think over kernel image 
   upgrade method : http server(CGI) through ethernet 

Matt , please you help me how to do this , Thank you very much .
Best Regards 
                                              advan 



advan
2007-10-19



发件人: Crane, Matthew
发送时间: 2007-10-17 21:23:14
收件人: uClinux development list
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主题: RE: RE: Re: [uClinux-dev] how to upgrade the jffs2 of root in linux

Hi, 

With minimal memory alternative options would be to stream the image to your 
flash.

If your system is minimal, maybe you do not need to keep a flash fs mounted.  
Can your system remain up if you unmount the existing jffs root?  

If so, and if ram/flash is at a premium, it is possible to execute a simple 
program that does all upgrade.

The program would need to:

- unmount root, e.g. system( "umount /dev/root" )
- use mtd calls to unlock/erase flash
- receive upgrade package. .
- as file comes in, write to flash.
- once written to flash ok, the partition can be remounted from within the 
process, e.g. system( "mount <root dev>") 
- if the program is running from a /tmp tmpfs, it could be restarted on 
failure, until the rootfs is restored. 

Rather then write a program from scratch, one of the simple embedded web 
servers out there can be modified to recieve post of file.   I believe uclinux 
has sparse httpd.

If you do something like this the possiblity of failing in the middle of 
upgrade is likely.  A fail safe image or bootloader with upgrade option would 
be needed to keep the system recoverable.  

The best place for an upgrade is sometimes the bootloader, maybe when an 
upgrade is requested, jump to bootloader and leave up to the bootloader.

It may be too that your options for upgrade would improve by minimizing the 
size of the root partition, or the part that needs to be upgraded.

Just suggestions, I don't know details of your requirments,

Matt




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of advan
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 5:35 AM
To: uClinux development list
Subject: Re: RE: Re: [uClinux-dev] how to upgrade the jffs2 of root in linux


Hi,Matt 
the  netflash also needs enough memory space ,when I use './netflash -K -r 
/dev/mtd1 192.168.1.218 jffs2.bin' via tftpserver through ethernet , the 
netflash requestes  virtual memory  always to store the data and that it's very 
slow . like my case , the embedded device's memory is very limited . free 
memory is only 1M ,otherwise the size of jffs2.bin is 3M , it seems it's 
difficult to netflash too , 
what do you think ? 
Thank you very much 

Best Regards 
                              cookie 




advan
2007-10-17



发件人: Crane, Matthew
发送时间: 2007-10-16 21:16:37
收件人: uClinux development list
抄送: 
主题: RE: Re: [uClinux-dev] how to upgrade the jffs2 of root in linux

Can netflash upgrade a mounted root partition?

If you don't have the memory to mount the tmp partition in ram, then keep a 
small second tmp partition in your flash, switch to that, run netflash, and 
then switch back to the new main parttion. 

Matt




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nikita Tabatsky
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 5:06 AM
To: uClinux development list
Subject: Re: Re: [uClinux-dev] how to upgrade the jffs2 of root in linux


Hi, Advan
 yes, netflash it's flash tool.
 sorry, i forgot to insert link :)
http://cvs.uclinux.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/uClinux-dist/user/netflash/ 
Nik.


On 10/16/07, advan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Hi,Nik
    Thank you , what is netflash ,it's a flash tool ?
 could you offer a link address ?
 Best Regards
                             advan




advan
2007-10-16



发件人: Nikita Tabatsky
发送时间: 2007-10-15 17:54:26
收件人: uClinux development list
抄送: 
主题: Re: [uClinux-dev] how to upgrade the jffs2 of root in linux

Hi, Advan
You can use netflash for upgrade your jffs2 partition.
Nik.


On 10/15/07, advan < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
hi, everyone 
  I build jffs2 as root file system in my embedded platform with uclinux os , I 
also build a web http server(boa) , through httpd server , I can upload a new 
jffs2 root file-system into the platform memery ,then I want to use new jfffs 
file to re-write jffs2 partition ,because linux is using this partition as its 
root file system , if I directly write it into the jffs2 partition ,then linux 
will cause crash and errors . anybody know how to do ?
thank you in advance 

                                   advan




advan
2007-10-15

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