Eric, I looked at your videos with explanation. Those gui studies are amazing. Thanks for the effort.
I agree with you that we all will need to concentrate on udig core and usability. I will wait another bit if somebody can do a product export of udig to be tested (still hope), then I will try to setup Jesse's headless building system. Jesse, is the building system currently working? Should I be able to create the build? Ciao Andrea On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Eric Jarvies <e...@csl.com.mx> wrote: > I agree. The sooner I have a testable OS X version, the sooner I could go > through it and prepare uDig bug videos showing the problem, and suggesting > solutions when/where they are not otherwise obvious. Especially fundamental > issues. For example: > > 1. In Layers pane, right click on layer, select Properties from contextual > menu. user has no ability to COPY text that is displayed in this > 'properties' window. Additionally, there is a bug in the Properties menu, > wherein if a user re-sizes the two panes, and if a row in the right side > pane contains a long string of text(url), the window will blow-up. See the > video to better understand. Additionally, if the user, at any time, resizes > this Properties window, uDig should remember this, and upon opening it the > next time, it should remain the same size as was set previously by the user. > uDig, overall, seldom remembers such things throughout the entire > application. > http://ericjarvies.com/udig/Properties_pop-up_window-small.mov > > 2. In the Table view, a number of things need to be fixed/added to bring it > up to speed so it can at minimum, serve as a basic data editor. Right now, > it is very difficult to use uDig to edit records. Watch the video, and see > how I've pointed out about a dozen or so issues. > http://ericjarvies.com/udig/Table_view_tabbing_copyPaste_importExport_userConfig.mov > > 3. etc. > (i'll add 30 more videos with about 100 items to the list) > > I will prepare as many videos as I can that point out lacking features, > areas that need improvement, and of course bugs. Also, I will upload > 640x480 videos, in addition to thumbnail videos(like the above 2), so that > those of you that are unable to get the point from those small video files, > can reference the full size and full res files, which of course are > 10-40mb's each, depending on length. > > In my opinion, as part of this sprint, I encourage those capable(coding) to > really try to concentrate on BASIC functionality, so that uDig can start > being used as an editor of data. I understand that a lot of these basic > features are not as exciting to program/code, as are other features that are > cooler or a lot neater, but imho, these BASIC functionality features will > result in more users actually using uDig for more things, like editing > records, for example. Right now, I only use uDig for a viewer, because it > is incapable of being used as an editor, because it lacks basic > functionality in that department. Alas, these are fairly straight forward > issues to address/correct/add, programmatically speaking, so I encourage the > programming-powers-that-be, to please seriously consider putting these > towards the top of the priority list(copy, paste, keyboard commands, etc.) > > over the next days, I will go through udig from head to toe, and create > these videos, and as I upload them and post them to the wiki, I would > appreciate it if all of you could view them, and then edit the wiki to > reflect which of them are the most important, and which should definitely be > addressed. Each video may cover one, some, or many issues at once. > > Regards, > > Eric > > > > On Dec 16, 2008, at 1:24 AM, andrea antonello wrote: > >> Great Eric and Marks, thanks for the help. >> I'm really glad things are constantly moving. >> >> We still have an important issue to solve: we do not have a working >> udig product to use for the pre-sprint testing. >> >> In my opinion if we do not push out a 1.2 test-version soon we risk to >> have too few time. >> I am currently not working hard on trunk, so for me it would be an >> effort to set up Jesse's build engine right now. >> Is anyone able to throw out a version "as-it-is-now" without too much >> effort? Any volunteer? >> >> Ciao >> Andrea >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 7:52 AM, Eric Jarvies <e...@csl.com.mx> wrote: >>> >>> ok, i will setup a user account(ssh/sftp) for you to access the server, >>> which is hosted at slicehost. i have 2 slices, each at 1gb, so one, or >>> both >>> can be used, and if more system resources are needed, i will up the 1gb >>> to >>> 2gb, or 4gb if needed. also, have 2 static ip addresses on each of those >>> slices. >>> >>> eric >>> >>> On Dec 15, 2008, at 11:22 PM, Mark Leslie wrote: >>> >>>> Eric, >>>> That's great news. I've volunteered to get the database setup once >>>> we've >>>> made a decision on the data to load (day or two). Could you contact me >>>> off-list (mark.les...@lisasoft.com) to sort out account details? >>>> >>>> Mark Leslie >>>> Geospatial Software Architect >>>> LISAsoft >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Ph: +61 2 8570 5000 Fax: +61 2 8570 5099 Mob: +61 >>>> Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf 19-21 Pirrama Rd Pyrmont NSW 2009 >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> LISAsoft is part of the A2end Group of Companies >>>> http://www.ardec.com.au >>>> http://www.lisasoft.com >>>> http://www.terrapages.com >>>> >>>> >>>> Eric Jarvies wrote: >>>>> >>>>> i can provide user accounts for postgresql/postgis, geoserver, and >>>>> ssh/sftp to a test environment that is up and running( >>>>> http://CSL.com.mx ). >>>>> I could provide this between now and the final code sprint work/version >>>>> release date. this server can provide psql, wms, wmf, and whatever >>>>> else >>>>> anyone feels needs to b running/working for testing purposes. >>>>> eric >>>>> On Dec 15, 2008, at 9:06 PM, Jody Garnett wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> uDig walkthrough 1 is looking good; so far the main problem is that >>>>>> the >>>>>> PostGIS instance at www.refractions.net is missing. I am not sure if >>>>>> it can >>>>>> be turned back on or not. Is this something anyone would be willing to >>>>>> host? >>>>>> Connecting to PostGIS is an important user story for walkthrough 1 to >>>>>> make. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jody >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> User-friendly Desktop Internet GIS (uDig) >>>>>> http://udig.refractions.net >>>>>> http://lists.refractions.net/mailman/listinfo/udig-devel >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> User-friendly Desktop Internet GIS (uDig) >>>>> http://udig.refractions.net >>>>> http://lists.refractions.net/mailman/listinfo/udig-devel >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> User-friendly Desktop Internet GIS (uDig) >>>> http://udig.refractions.net >>>> http://lists.refractions.net/mailman/listinfo/udig-devel >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> User-friendly Desktop Internet GIS (uDig) >>> http://udig.refractions.net >>> http://lists.refractions.net/mailman/listinfo/udig-devel >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> User-friendly Desktop Internet GIS (uDig) >> http://udig.refractions.net >> http://lists.refractions.net/mailman/listinfo/udig-devel > > _______________________________________________ > User-friendly Desktop Internet GIS (uDig) > http://udig.refractions.net > http://lists.refractions.net/mailman/listinfo/udig-devel > _______________________________________________ User-friendly Desktop Internet GIS (uDig) http://udig.refractions.net http://lists.refractions.net/mailman/listinfo/udig-devel
