Potosi, I have copied the mails I sent to this here list before as proof that I was not lying about the thugs stealing money from Nile Bank. And remember I said that I was not very convinced that MTN Boers were not helping the Kenyan thugs steal the money from Nile Bank. Now you can see what MTN staff are saying about theya bosses!! Now the stealing becomes very very clear.
My sources at Cape Town in South Africa tell me that MTN has been doing mobile banking in South Africa very well for a long time. But in Uganda they decide to do it in the very bad way with clear text and no encription. Now I am thinking that the Boers and the Kenyans combined to defraud a Ugandan Bank. Why has MTN been defending the Kenyans? Is it because the Muzungu at the top is the one who sent them to Nile Bank? I would like to know who Nile Bank has been talking with at MTN. Then you will know the snake. From the letter by the MTN staff, me I think it is the Boer who has been learning Kakyabali because he is the only one in "physical" contact with africans. It would be very bad for our African brothers in South Africa who Uganda helped so much during the apartheid years have now exported to us thier thugs. And these thugs are now destryong Ugandas banks one by one by using technology they know is shit. Masaba John (eyes and ears underground) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Masaba John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 02:40:40 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: If its true, its very bad!!!! [Fwd: ugnet_: Fwd: Yetanother UgandaBank about to close]] > > Potosi and Kigundu, > What is wrong with Ugandans of today. Byarugaba is not serious. I tell him his >house is on fire and show to him the people setting the fire. He runs to those same >people and asks, is it true are you burning my house? They tell him NO we are your >frends. He then send a letter around saying my house is not on fire, my frends are >only using red light bulbs to make it look wonderful for me and the smoke is from >Nayama choma they are preparing for me. > > The man knows very little about technology and it looks like he knows even less >about managing when things are very hot. > > He should have used some of the little money that is left in the bank to investigate >indipendently because many people in Uganda have the ability to do the >investigations. > > Also many of his customers have their account details exposed and are loosing >billions of shillings to the kenyan conn men. > > Even he could have gone to the internet and read all the information on SMS to learn >how it works. Let me help him. > > SMS is a STORE and FORWARD system. Email is also a Store and forward System. If >someone sends you a SMS on Sunday morning and your fone is off. When your fone is on >on Monday morning, you will very soon get the message. This is because the message >has been Stored on the MTN system and Forwarded to you when the phone comes on. It >is the same with email. When you store something in a computer the computer makes a >copy of it. > > In a Store and Forward system like SMS and email, a copy of your message is ALWAYS >kept by the service provider. If there are two service providers like >TrueAfrican/197 and MTN then each has a copy. If MTN can tell CMI and ISO that this >person or that person has called Besigye at this time and that time, why do you think >they are not keeping the records of the messages sent using SMS. Maybe by now even >the nigerian conn men sending email conn letters to Uganda have copies of Nile Bank >accounts and account balances sent to them by their kenyan frends. > > TrueAfrcian/197 conned millions of shillings from MTN during a world cup compettiton >(New Vision July 11th page 3) . They rigged so the girlfrend of a staff won. Now >this kenyan company that did not exist in Uganda 12 months ago has started the >biggest conn by collecting all the account numbers and the balance on each account in >Nile Bank using SMS. And 197/TrueAfrican is shouting TRUST US, TRUST US, TRUST US. > > They have conned Mr. Byarugaba and are lying to him. If Mr. Byarugaba cannot >understand the SMS technology then how can he understand how they are going to steal >the money? > > Billions are already gone and Nile Bank is saying that they have the Ange lights in >thieir house and are about to eat kenyan nyama choma. > > The Bank of Uganda law says the Nile Bank must protect customer account information >from 3rd party. TrueAfrican/197 and MTN are 3rd and 4th and even 5th party. Maybe >trueAfrican/197 have a very senior person in MTN who is protecting them so is giving >the same statement to the Bank. Me I think they conned MTN also. But also even those >south africans... I dont know. The court order can show that the Nile Bank account >information is being read by MTN engineers and TrueAfrican/197 conn men and being >sold to Kampala thugs. > > Byarugaba save your customers, your house is on fire, there is no kenyan nyama choma >and those are not red bulbs. Me I have told my sister to remove her money if it is >still there because it will soon to be gone. A indipendent investigation will not >even cost $1000 yet you Byarugaba are loosing Billions of shillings. > > If you do not understand Store and Forward ask your email administrata for a copy of >the logs of all the email messages that the bank send in and out of the bank. It will >make you understand a little how Nile Bank has been conned. > > > Masaba John (ear and eyes under ground) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mitayo Potosi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 20:10:25 +0000 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: If its true, its very bad!!!! [Fwd: ugnet_: Fwd: Yetanother >UgandaBank about to close]] > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Masaba John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 05:46:16 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: Fwd: Yet another Uganda Bank about to close > >Forward if you know anyone using Nile Bank!! > >--------------------------------------------------- > > > >It seems that yet another Bank in Uganda is on the way to closing. > (sept or oct >2002) > > > >The Bank is Nile Bank and the reason is not poor balance sheet but >very bad >descion and being conned. > > > >To try and get more cusotmers Nile Bank has become the >hi-technology bank in >Uganda. They teamed up with a Kenyan >company called TrueAfrican which is running a >SMS service on the >MTN service. > > > >With SMS using 197 on MTN you can check your account balance at >Nile Bank. True >African/197 Conned Nile Bank that they were doing >things with security. It has now >been proved by MTN engineers >that all the Bank customer information on the 197 >service has been >seen publically by MTN Engineers and True African Staff (in >>addition to the Bank and the customers). > > > >According to Band of Uganda rules, all banks has to protect >customer information >from 3rd party or they will loose their Bank >licence. Nile bank has been showing >account information of thier >customers to 3rd party, 4th party and even 5th party! > > > >True African/197 conned MTN out of millions of shillings during >the world cup by >rigging the vote of the MTN world cup draw via >SMS (New Vision July 11 2002 page 3). > > > >Now they have conned Nile Bank into releasing all the accounts of >thousands of >their customers with billions of shillings. The >accounts are being sent without ANY >encryption and thousands of >users have given away their account details and >passwords. > > > >It has been a rumor that some thugs have been buying the >information from True >African engineers and conning business men. > > > >If you have an account at Nile Bank and have used 197/True African >SMS, everyone >knows your balance, everyone knows your account >number and everyone knows your >password or pin number. Someone >could even withdraw your money with this >information! > > > >It will be urgent to see what ISO and Bank of Uganda Govenor does >about this >situation and how soon he will move against Nile Bank >to set a example. MTN should >also be sharing some of the blame if >they supported 197/True African in Nile Bank >deal. > > > >masaba john (ear and eyes open under ground) > -- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mitayo Potosi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 15:41:14 +0000 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ugnet_: FW: Behind the scenes at MTN > > The white man is having it all!! Looting our people like there is no > tomorrow!! > > The British have recolonized our country, sometimes mascarading as South > african whites (Boers). > > President Idi Amin warned us about all this!! > > This is the price we have to pay for mu7 to be kept in power. > > Sad indeed!! I loath to live in such a country. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The fact that this e-mail was doing the rounds among > managerial staff at UTL, a competitor of MTN, makes me > extremely cautious about swallowing uncritically all the > kvetching. > > vukoni > > ---- Original message ---- > >Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 05:40:06 -0500 > >From: "Vincent Okello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: ugnet_: FW: Behind the scenes at MTN > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Fellow ugandans, > > > > The message below was sent to me by a friend in Atlanta. > After talking to my cousin who works for MTN, I found out the > message is true!!! You will not believe!!! > > > >When will our poor brethren be free?! Museveni kills our > people, now big companies screw us! > > > > Write to all your friend and tell them. I also got emails > of the managing director of MTN and some managers and some > directors. (see above) Write to them and complain. > > > >Vincent > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Balaba, J > >Sent: Friday, 04 October, 2002 10:02 > >To: Jack Kintu, Norah Sempa > >Subject: FW: Behind the scenes of MTN > > > > > > > >----- Forwarded by Winifred Walakira/I.S./Amnesty > International on 04/10/02 > >09:59 ----- > > > > > > "Kuheebwa, > > > > Lillian" To: > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > <Lillian.Kuheebwa cc: > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > @utl.co.ug> Subject: FW: > Behind the > >scenes of MTN > > > > > > 03/10/02 14:40 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Safari, Mwiyeretsi > >Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:14 PM > >To: Walusimbi,Laura,Mulenga; Sekanwagi, Thomas; Lutakome, > Ronnie; > >Kuheebwa, Lillian; Kyakunzire, Agatha; Basiime, Charity; > Kajwiga, > >Lilian; Tumugabiirwe, Sheila; Nyikirize, Diana; Nakazibwe, > Zahara > >Cc: Carlos Byamugisha (E-mail); Ofong Peter (E-mail); > Mbanga, Richard > >Subject: FW: Behind the scenes of MTN > > > > > >take your time reading this.. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Kyamanywa, Majda > >Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:08 PM > >To: Safari, Mwiyeretsi; Mulindwa, Eric > >Subject: FW: Behind the scenes of MTN > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Miller, Grace > >Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 12:55 PM > >To: Otage, Dorothy > >Cc: Kyamanywa, Majda; Sendege, Alice; Tibahurira, Sandra; > Asiimwe, Rose; > >Nabunya, Brenda; Namyenya, Gertrude; Mulindwa, Eric > >Subject: FW: Behind the scenes of MTN > > > > > > > > > >-How did this letter gewt on my pc???? MTN guys are haharing. > >g > > > > > >Hi, > > > >FUI > > > >Marketing Services Manager > >uganda telecom - mobile division > >tel: 256-41-333527 > >mobile: 071800310 > >email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Asingwire, Allan > >Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 12:41 PM > >To: Nsubuga, Aldrine > >Subject: Behind the scenes of MTN > > > > > > > >Aldrine, did you get this one before? The second part is > more intresting. > > > > > >> This is an open letter to the Board of Directors > >> > >> We the MTN staff would like to express our dissappointment > at the way our > >> bonus has been handled. It is now taking over 6 months > before our bonus > > > >is > > > >> paid and yesterday we recieved our months paychecks but > without bonuses. > > > >Our > > > >> managers continue telling us this and that it is coming to > over 6months. > >> > >> We are dedicated employees but we would like to bring to > the attention of > >> the board that the expatriates here have no motivation for > processing our > >> bonus. Simply because they earn more more than 1000% of > the average local > >> poor employees salary. Worse still when the board gives > out bonuses they > >> are given more than 10 times when we are given if lucky a > maximum of two > > > >yet > > > >> they claim that board is happy with our performance. > >> > > > > > >> Second issue is the expatriate corruption. Most expats > now own companies > >> that are doing business with MTN and if not they ask for > hefty bribes > > > >from > > > >> those dealing with MTN but though people have called the > fraud line, this > >> has never been addressed. And here are some of the expats. > we are > > > >requesting > > > >> the board to look into > >> > >> Stephan Dycke the Retail Manager > >> > >> He is asking for the alot of money from people who want to > set up > > > >Franchises > > > >> with MTN and if you do not pay to him a bribe as a dealer > you are bound > > > >to > > > >> suffer. He also has share in some of the outlets, dealers > and other > > > >people > > > >> have complained to the CEO but nothing has been done. Not > to mention that > > > >he > > > >> was fired from Shell Uganda for corruption. > >> > >> Erik Van Veen Marketing Manager > >> > >> He owns a tent with Sylivia Owor that was bought using MTN > Money and also > >> has shares in Ziper Models owned by Sylvia Owor. Sylvia > Owor is his > >> concubine and the company spends alot of money renting a > tent that was > >> bought with MTN money in addition to spending alot of > money on Miss > > > >Uganda, > > > >> to which us from other departments other than marketing or > sales have to > > > >buy > > > >> a ticket at 100,000 shillings on top of all the money > spent on the > >> functions. > >> > >> Jacko IT department > >> > >> He orders computers only from Computer Point company that > employs his > > > >wife. > > > >> Computer Point recently bought him a Range Rover . This is > a company that > >> made the Uganda Electrol commission loose millions in > inflated computer > >> prices. > >> > >> Mike Blackburn. CFO > >> > >> He refuses us to book for travel from other agencies apart > from Uganda > >> Travel Bureau(UTB) that charges twice what other agencies > charge. His > > > >wife > > > >> manages the MTN account at UTB. > >> > >> He bought a mercedes benz worth US$100,000 that is not > even driven by the > >> richest Ugandans. How do you justify such a purchase when > some of us are > >> earning less $500 per month. This is very demoralizing to > us that some > >> people are paid that much to afford such a car when we are > struggling to > > > >put > > > >> food on the table. And yet even our little hope the bonus > is either > > > >delayed > > > >> or if paid it is reducing every year, yet we are also told > that the > > > >company > > > >> is doing better and better. > >> > >> > >> > >> I hope you can hear our cries > >> > >> Concerned staff > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> This message has been scanned for viruses and > >> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > >> believed to be clean. > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > >__________________________________________________________ > >Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com > >http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > "Ivinicus factus sum veritabem diceus. ( I have become an enemy for speaking > the truth ) St Paul." > > Mitayo Potosi > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > >From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: ugnet_: FW: Behind the scenes at MTN > >Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 10:02:25 -0400 > > > >The fact that this e-mail was doing the rounds among > >managerial staff at UTL, a competitor of MTN, makes me > >extremely cautious about swallowing uncritically all the > >kvetching. > > > >vukoni > > > >---- Original message ---- > > >Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 05:40:06 -0500 > > >From: "Vincent Okello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Subject: ugnet_: FW: Behind the scenes at MTN > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >Fellow ugandans, > > > > > > The message below was sent to me by a friend in Atlanta. > >After talking to my cousin who works for MTN, I found out the > >message is true!!! You will not believe!!! > > > > > >When will our poor brethren be free?! Museveni kills our > >people, now big companies screw us! > > > > > > Write to all your friend and tell them. I also got emails > >of the managing director of MTN and some managers and some > >directors. (see above) Write to them and complain. > > > > > >Vincent > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Balaba, J > > >Sent: Friday, 04 October, 2002 10:02 > > >To: Jack Kintu, Norah Sempa > > >Subject: FW: Behind the scenes of MTN > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Forwarded by Winifred Walakira/I.S./Amnesty > >International on 04/10/02 > > >09:59 ----- > > > > > > > > > "Kuheebwa, > > > > > > Lillian" To: > > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > <Lillian.Kuheebwa cc: > > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > @utl.co.ug> Subject: FW: > >Behind the > > >scenes of MTN > > > > > > > > > 03/10/02 14:40 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Safari, Mwiyeretsi > > >Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:14 PM > > >To: Walusimbi,Laura,Mulenga; Sekanwagi, Thomas; Lutakome, > >Ronnie; > > >Kuheebwa, Lillian; Kyakunzire, Agatha; Basiime, Charity; > >Kajwiga, > > >Lilian; Tumugabiirwe, Sheila; Nyikirize, Diana; Nakazibwe, > >Zahara > > >Cc: Carlos Byamugisha (E-mail); Ofong Peter (E-mail); > >Mbanga, Richard > > >Subject: FW: Behind the scenes of MTN > > > > > > > > >take your time reading this.. > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Kyamanywa, Majda > > >Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:08 PM > > >To: Safari, Mwiyeretsi; Mulindwa, Eric > > >Subject: FW: Behind the scenes of MTN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Miller, Grace > > >Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 12:55 PM > > >To: Otage, Dorothy > > >Cc: Kyamanywa, Majda; Sendege, Alice; Tibahurira, Sandra; > >Asiimwe, Rose; > > >Nabunya, Brenda; Namyenya, Gertrude; Mulindwa, Eric > > >Subject: FW: Behind the scenes of MTN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-How did this letter gewt on my pc???? MTN guys are haharing. > > >g > > > > > > > > >Hi, > > > > > >FUI > > > > > >Marketing Services Manager > > >uganda telecom - mobile division > > >tel: 256-41-333527 > > >mobile: 071800310 > > >email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Asingwire, Allan > > >Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 12:41 PM > > >To: Nsubuga, Aldrine > > >Subject: Behind the scenes of MTN > > > > > > > > > > > >Aldrine, did you get this one before? The second part is > >more intresting. > > > > > > > > >> This is an open letter to the Board of Directors > > >> > > >> We the MTN staff would like to express our dissappointment > >at the way our > > >> bonus has been handled. It is now taking over 6 months > >before our bonus > > > > > >is > > > > > >> paid and yesterday we recieved our months paychecks but > >without bonuses. > > > > > >Our > > > > > >> managers continue telling us this and that it is coming to > >over 6months. > > >> > > >> We are dedicated employees but we would like to bring to > >the attention of > > >> the board that the expatriates here have no motivation for > >processing our > > >> bonus. Simply because they earn more more than 1000% of > >the average local > > >> poor employees salary. Worse still when the board gives > >out bonuses they > > >> are given more than 10 times when we are given if lucky a > >maximum of two > > > > > >yet > > > > > >> they claim that board is happy with our performance. > > >> > > > > > > > > >> Second issue is the expatriate corruption. Most expats > >now own companies > > >> that are doing business with MTN and if not they ask for > >hefty bribes > > > > > >from > > > > > >> those dealing with MTN but though people have called the > >fraud line, this > > >> has never been addressed. And here are some of the expats. > >we are > > > > > >requesting > > > > > >> the board to look into > > >> > > >> Stephan Dycke the Retail Manager > > >> > > >> He is asking for the alot of money from people who want to > >set up > > > > > >Franchises > > > > > >> with MTN and if you do not pay to him a bribe as a dealer > >you are bound > > > > > >to > > > > > >> suffer. He also has share in some of the outlets, dealers > >and other > > > > > >people > > > > > >> have complained to the CEO but nothing has been done. Not > >to mention that > > > > > >he > > > > > >> was fired from Shell Uganda for corruption. > > >> > > >> Erik Van Veen Marketing Manager > > >> > > >> He owns a tent with Sylivia Owor that was bought using MTN > >Money and also > > >> has shares in Ziper Models owned by Sylvia Owor. Sylvia > >Owor is his > > >> concubine and the company spends alot of money renting a > >tent that was > > >> bought with MTN money in addition to spending alot of > >money on Miss > > > > > >Uganda, > > > > > >> to which us from other departments other than marketing or > >sales have to > > > > > >buy > > > > > >> a ticket at 100,000 shillings on top of all the money > >spent on the > > >> functions. > > >> > > >> Jacko IT department > > >> > > >> He orders computers only from Computer Point company that > >employs his > > > > > >wife. > > > > > >> Computer Point recently bought him a Range Rover . This is > >a company that > > >> made the Uganda Electrol commission loose millions in > >inflated computer > > >> prices. > > >> > > >> Mike Blackburn. CFO > > >> > > >> He refuses us to book for travel from other agencies apart > >from Uganda > > >> Travel Bureau(UTB) that charges twice what other agencies > >charge. His > > > > > >wife > > > > > >> manages the MTN account at UTB. > > >> > > >> He bought a mercedes benz worth US$100,000 that is not > >even driven by the > > >> richest Ugandans. How do you justify such a purchase when > >some of us are > > >> earning less $500 per month. This is very demoralizing to > >us that some > > >> people are paid that much to afford such a car when we are > >struggling to > > > > > >put > > > > > >> food on the table. And yet even our little hope the bonus > >is either > > > > > >delayed > > > > > >> or if paid it is reducing every year, yet we are also told > >that the > > > > > >company > > > > > >> is doing better and better. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> I hope you can hear our cries > > >> > > >> Concerned staff > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> This message has been scanned for viruses and > > >> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > >> believed to be clean. > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > >__________________________________________________________ > > >Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com > > >http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get faster connections�-- switch to�MSN Internet Access! > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > > -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup
