Kipenji
Waligwa nange wendigwa barely means critical thinking. Why start now?
Em
The Mulindwas communication group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
----- Original Message -----
From: "Owor Kipenji" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: ugnet_: Go slow on federo says Kabaka Mutebi-Monitor 25/11/2002
> Thanks for your apologist attitudes and posturing as
> if to say I never understood that the lady you now
> want
> to disenfranchise from Buganda said it.If all these
> types of statements are considered in their totality
> the fact still remains that restoration or giving of
> the monarch should not be seen as a favour for which a
> people whose livelihood and hence culture revolve
> around should forever be grateful.We have to reach a
> stage when we have to differentiate rights from
> previledges in order to be able not to cheerlead
> dictators calling them benovalent.That would indeed be
> an oxymoron.
> That is what I wanted to pass and I still stand by it.
> Thanks.
> Emirembe gibe nawe.
> Kipenji.
>
============================================================================
==================================
> --- jonah kasangwawo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >
> Kipenji,
> >
> > it is necessary to understand the language of
> > Ugandans. When they say that
> > Mu7 gave us the monarchy, what they actually mean is
> > that it was restored
> > under his government (although I'm sure he had a
> > hand in the decision and
> > through negotiations). It is similar to when they
> > say that Obote killed us.
> > This doesn't mean the man himself actually took the
> > gun and shot people.
> > That said, I'd hate to think that you are
> > attributing the statement, which
> > you found demeaning, to the Kabaka. He never said
> > it. And before I hear
> > shouts from all sorts of corners, let me stress that
> > the lady MP who said it
> > is not even an ethnic Muganda. But she has a right
> > to her opinions.
> >
> > Kasangwawo
> >
> >
> > >From: Owor Kipenji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Re: ugnet_: Go slow on federo says Kabaka
> > Mutebi-Monitor
> > >25/11/2002
> > >Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 16:56:07 +0000 (GMT)
> > >
> > >I want to believe there is no contradictions in
> > these
> > >statements.That granted what I find demeaning is
> > the
> > >statement that Mu7 gave us the monarchy and since
> > we
> > >are not sure whether his successor will be pro
> > >monarchism we have to start or should we continue
> > >negotiating for it?.I have all along thought and
> > known
> > >that the Monarch was there even before the colonial
> > >times and to read this type of statements is to say
> > >the least very mind boggling.What Mu7 has done is
> > >actually to undermine the Monarchy so that it
> > becomes
> > >subservient to him and hence this type of
> > statements.
> > >B4 1966 everybody who cares to know, knows what the
> > >monarchy was about and if that is what we want
> > under
> > >the aegesis of Federalism then we can hide under
> > these
> > >nefarious statements.
> > >Thank you.
> > >Kipenji.
> >
> >==============================================================---
> > >jonah kasangwawo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I
> > >don't see any contradiction between what the
> > > > Kabaka said previously and
> > > > what is reported in the article below. All he is
> > > > stressing is that federo
> > > > needs to be negotiated (and not achieved by
> > other
> > > > means). This in no way
> > > > negates the statement that federo is around the
> > > > corner.
> > > >
> > > > Kasangwawo
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Mulindwa Edward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >Subject: ugnet_: Go slow on federo says Kabaka
> > > > Mutebi-Monitor 25/11/2002
> > > > >Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 18:25:32 -0500
> > > > >
> > > > >Can some body help me here, didn't he just say
> > that
> > > > federal is around the
> > > > >comer? What is he smoking these days?
> > > > >Em
> > > > > The Mulindwas communication group
> > > > >"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Omar Kezimbira
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 9:24 AM
> > > > > Subject: ugnet_: Go slow on federo says
> > Kabaka
> > > > Mutebi-Monitor 25/11/2002
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Go slow on federo says kabaka Mutebi
> > > > > By Wandera w'Ouma
> > > > > Kabaka Ronald Muwenda Mutebi has advised
> > Baganda
> > > > who are pro-federo to
> > > > >negotiate their case.
> > > > > He said federo (or federalism) could only be
> > > > granted when parties
> > > > >negotiate rather than exert pressure on the
> > central
> > > > government.
> > > > > The Kabaka gave the advice while launching
> > the
> > > > Kayunga District
> > > > >Investment Committee headed by area LC-V
> > Chairman
> > > > Stephen Dagada and
> > > > >UTODA's Hajji Moses Katongole on Friday.
> > > > > "Yes, those who want federo should not
> > > > pressurise government while
> > > > >asking for it," said Arthur Bagunwa, Buganda's
> > > > minister of local government
> > > > >who accompanied the Kabaka. "We should not
> > > > forcefully ask for it but rather
> > > > >continue with negotiations."
> > > > > "We are not sure if the person who will
> > succeed
> > > > President Yoweri
> > > > >Museveni will be pro-monarchy," said Kayunga
> > woman
> > > > MP Victoria Ssebagereka.
> > > > >"He has given us the monarchy and he has been
> > > > contributing in our cultural
> > > > >functions."
> > > > > She said those in favour of federo therefore
> > > > should take advantage and
> > > > >persuade Museveni to deliver before retiring in
> > > > 2006.
> > > > > Kayunga Assistant Resident District
> > Commissioner
> > > > Mugarra Kabagambe
> > > > >appealed to Kabaka and cultural institutions to
> > > > support government in
> > > > >building democracy.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
---
> > > > > Do you Yahoo!?
> > > > > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable.
> > Sign up
> > > > now
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >_________________________________________________________________
> > > > MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2
> > months
> > > > FREE*.
> > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
> > > >
> > >
> > >__________________________________________________
> > >Do You Yahoo!?
> > >Everything you'll ever need on one web page
> > >from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts
> > >http://uk.my.yahoo.com
> >
> >
> >
> _________________________________________________________________
> > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months
> > FREE*.
> > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
> >
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Everything you'll ever need on one web page
> from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts
> http://uk.my.yahoo.com
>
>
