Peter
The purpose of my points raised yesterday was not to blame any body for
Africa's problems. And it is a twist of my posting to claim that I am here
blaming the West for the same. Africa's problems are huge and we all know
them, so we as well agree that we can not fight them on one front. Now in
the many fronts we must fight Africa's problem is to save her resources from
the looters. We as Africans must take responsibility of our actions, we must
be accountable and we must as well get good leadership. But let us not
delude our selves, and I must be clear on this one, President Mobutu looted
money from Congo and banked it in Switzerland, that was a poor leadership
and we must condemn it. But the Belgian government was as well wrong to loot
Congo. Yet to us as Africans we can fight the war of cleaning up the
leadership, but who will clean up the looter's sides? And why do we even
have a problem mentioning it?
Now let us look at your very last sentence closely. Let us put it in real
world so that we are not using solutions built on computer modulation. The
President of Democratic Republic of Congo is called Kabila, Congo is a very
rich country, but she has failed to developed her self using the resources
she has. As a must, to be a leader of Congo you must accept your minerals to
be exploited by Britain United States Belgium on and on. Look here let us
not be ashamed to make these things public. How many Congolese Presidents
have been assassinated as we speak? Look at their history, they all have one
thing in common, they start a programme to make Africa's resources used by
Africans. The moment you try that, then assassinations come into Congo, in
fact of now lately a roomer has just started to be public that actually CIA
was involved into some assassinations in Congo. But you would not say that
publicly, as much as we knew it.
With this back ground, the population is power less, they have nothing they
can do to change this huge phenomenon, if you want to know how Africans are
powerless, go to Uganda, a country which has been embedded into a very
settle war which was set up by The National resistance Movement for the sole
purpose of eliminating Northern Uganda. As much as there is a whole pile of
information flowing out there, as much as we have made public of rapes
molestation and out right murder of Ugandans and foreigners in day light.
The government of Great Britain is telling us that Museveni is a good
leader, they do not only stop there but they fund his government, because
there is no economy in Uganda, they must put in at least 70 or so percent of
the budget. But why does Britain do all these things? For Museveni gives
them the access to loot Congo.
So we have two nations that are victims for the sake of maintaining the life
styles of the little Joe Who, in London. Congo and Uganda.
But this is what is stricking me hard, that you are now asking Ugandans who
have been classified by UN as Internally displaced people for over 20 years,
to make changes into the leaders they have. Although Americans are looting
Angola in the day and Angolans are walking naked, you are blaming them for
not making changes into the leadership they have, in fact you are telling
Ugandans that you are responsible for your being in Camps in your own
country.
I prefer to take the Robert Mugaabe route, we must turn the economy to our
people, we must build trust in our people, we must save their resources from
these looters who are taking with out pay. These looters are not even using
common sense, for when Mugaabe told them to go they should have thanked him,
for you know what? If White people did what they did to Zimbabweans to Jews,
they would have been sued, for I have seen this happening. Please we as
Africans we are not refusing to take the blame of our failures but all we
are asking for is to let our resources into our hands, so that when we get a
leader like Mobutu we can throw him out using our vote, but we do not want
to be like Ugandans who are today having at least a million people
Internally displaced in their own country, but Museveni is in power for
Britain and United States fund him in order for them to access the Congo
loot.
I am now going back on the article that forced me to respond, Africa does
not need hospitals today, we need to build an economy to run those
hospitals. We need economical independence, there is no reason why young
Kabila must report immediately to Washington before he becomes a president.
After we have got that independency we will build the hospitals for then we
will be able to run them. Let us not put the cart in front.
I am done with you.
Em
The Mulindwas communication group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
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Subject: ugnet_: Military Budgets Versus Decrease in Health Budgets in 3rd
World countries
> From: Peter Cross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 'Eddie Cross' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 7:26 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Mwananchi] Military Budgets Versus Decrease in Health
> Budgets
> > in 3rd World countries
> >
> >
> > Eddie - I was going to say that it is not really worth responding,
> however,
> > I couldn't really resist - so here is my two cents to add to the
malaise.
> >
> > I had a Nigerian professor at university who said that it was time that
> the
> > colonial legacy get relegated to history, that it was time to look
beyond
> > the notion of Robert Rotberg's "How Europe Underdeveloped Africa" and to
> > begin to look at how Africans underdeveloped Africa. It is too easy to
> > blame everything on the west, although there there is a lot of blame
that
> > can be placed on the West - ultimately what good is this going to do?
> There
> > will also be no progress through passing the buck. It is not worth
trying
> > to respond to all of the issues mentioned by the previous two - what is
> > important across all the issues is that Africans start to take
> > responsibility for Africa's problems.
> >
> > The issue of Arms
> > We can talk about Western arms sales to Africa - but these arms are not
> the
> > weapon of choice in Africa's civil conflicts - rather it is the Machete,
> it
> > is the rusty old Kalashnikov - and against woman it is all too often the
> > male member. These weapons are not being trafficked by unscrupulous
> > westerners, but by Africans to Africans for use by Africans against
> > Africans. At the same time there is a problem with arms transfers to
> > Africa, and the African nations need to work together to tackle this
> > problem. This is a problem of both supply and demand - on the supply
side
> a
> > lot of pressure is being placed on producer governments to limit arms
> > transfers to countries that do not have legitimate defence needs. The
UK
> > government has actually got the strongest arms export controls of any
arms
> > producer country, this together with the EU Code of Conduct on Arms
> Exports
> > provides a fairly effective control over arms sales to Africa.
Obviously
> > more can be done - and is being done - to make these controls tighter
> still.
> > On an aside - the UK is notoriously bad at producing small arms and
light
> > weapons. The limited production that the UK has in small arms is of
such
> > poor quality that the UK's own defence forces won't use these weapons!
On
> > the demand side it is up to Africans to work together to reduce the
> demand,
> > to remove the need for firearms from the equation.
> >
> > Minerals
> > In order to effectively mine the various minerals that Africa has
beneath
> > her red soil, or to drill into her oil fields a certain amount of
> > infrastructure is necessary. This means roads, it means railway lines,
it
> > means having a trained work-force to extract these minerals. Conflict
and
> > the resultant lack of development in Africa has destroyed these roads
and
> > railways. Conflict has turned her skilled work-force into guerrilla
> > fighters, into peasant farmers, into refugees, and for the lucky few,
into
> > intellectual diaspora. This leaves me with a question about the theory
> > posed here - if the West only wants Africa's wealth and if the West is
at
> > the heart of Africa's conflict, isn't this an impossible contradiction?
> >
> > The case of Angola is particularly sad, oil has most certainly provided
> the
> > fuel for its long civil war. How much responsibility must fall at the
> feet
> > of America's oil industry? In this case I would say that a lot of the
> blame
> > can be found there. The oil industry is famously dirty and
unscrupulous.
> > Almost as dirty and unscrupulous as Angola's politians who, along with
> Jonas
> > Savimbi's UNITA, have benefited hugely from tapping this extremely
> lucrative
> > source of corrupt wealth. Hand in hand the politicians and the oil
execs
> > have provided a formidable force for Angola's destruction - one could
not
> > have done it without the other.
> >
> > The greatest enemy of Africa is not her resources. It is also not the
> West.
> > The greatest enemy of Africa and of her people is the handful of
Africans
> > that are happy to step on her development and on her people in order to
> use
> > her resources for personal gain, in order to ensure that little pockets
of
> > power remain under their control. Africa's enemy - and the enemy of
> > Africans is the attitude that others are at fault, that others carry the
> > responsibility for Africa's problems.
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Eddie Cross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 04 February 2003 13:32
> > To: peter cross
> > Subject: Fw: [Mwananchi] Military Budgets Versus Decrease in Health
> > Budgets in 3rd World countries
> >
> >
> > How do we respond to this sort of stuff.
> >
> > Eddie
> >
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> > Date: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 4:21 PM
> > Subject: [Mwananchi] Military Budgets Versus Decrease in Health Budgets
in
> > 3rd World countries
> >
> >
> > Netters
> > This is a very intresting reading on how we look on Africa's problem
from
> a
> > very shallow way.
> > I wish for example, the writer would tell me a nation which spends more
on
> > health that its military, I wish he could tell me that, but for the sake
> of
> > creating those scenes again we face day today to express in our faces of
> how
> > Africa has failed he has made his number one to stress it. Africa spends
> > more on Military than on health.
> > It is true wars are fuelled by developed countries, but not only to sell
> > their weapons, actually developed countries get more from Africa by
> looting
> > our resources than by selling weapons to Africa. And if any one took the
> > time to look on figures you would find that we know Great Britain has
> > increased the amounts of small weapons they sell to Africa, but we do
not
> > know the figure of how much they take by the looting of minerals for
> > example. Developed countries do not sell weapons to Africa to fuel
civil
> > wars. For they get nothing out of Africans who are dead. They create
those
> > wars so that they maintain the dictator in power for he has allowed them
> to
> > loot it or in cases like Uganda for Museveni has allowed them to use
> Uganda
> > to access their loot in Congo. There is a very huge amount in monies
that
> > developed countries collect out of Africa that is why they maintain the
> > killers in power.
> > Now Rwanda's case is very interesting, By this posting some body out
there
> > is telling us that the Rwanda genocide of 1994 is the one which has
> created
> > a wound of hetrade? So let me get this straight. Rwanda was a good
nation
> > with out a problem and with no hate of each other and some one out of
the
> > blue started to kill other people? Well then may be we need to go back
and
> > read the history of Rwanda and find out what caused this problem. For I
> was
> > born way back before 1994 in Uganda and we had Rwandese in Uganda
looking
> > for refugee. What were they running away from? We know too that Obote
> played
> > a very vital role into seeing that Rwanda issues are settled in a civil
> > manner and it was due to Obote that we never got a genocide in Rwanda,
> until
> > when Museveni the Killer came into play. But that was way back before
> 1994.
> > Let us go on Angola. Why does Angola need to be helped to developed?
> Angola
> > is estimated to have more minerals than DRC, but there is a part of
> equation
> > that you are not mentioning. Today United States is doing almost 90% of
> all
> > businesses in Angola and they have been doing so since time memorial,
but
> > their catch is that they are digging daily and daily minerals out of
> Angola.
> > In front of starving kids. The only way to help Angola today is United
> > States to get out of Angola. We as African must get the strength to make
> > that call. Yes we know they do not have hospitals yes we know they do
not
> > have roads yes we know the land if fertile, but until when Angolans are
> > allowed to use their country, to use their resources, I am not going to
> sit
> > here and blame them, for we have blamed Africans for centuries but we
fear
> > to tell the rest of the story. Let the Americans get out of Angola then
we
> > will re assess the situation.
> > Let me Jump here to Sierra Leone. Who exactly do you want to put money
> into
> > health care in this country? This country is under UK Belgium France you
> > name it, let me tell you straight that those are the people you must ask
> > those questions not the amputees.
> >
> > Listen look here, on all countries that you are listing, what is common?
> It
> > is minerals in all of them. All nations you are listing, have minerals
in
> > them or access to countries with minerals in them, that is why you have
> > these killings. May be we must move this argument a step further and
> wonder
> > why when ever any African nation has minerals or access to minerals we
> have
> > these wars in which millions of our people die day and night. Secondly
can
> > we look to see who is in this war and funding it, for we can not state
> that
> > rebels are the ones who fund these wars, surely there is a developed
> country
> > which funds that war as it is getting access to the minerals. So the
first
> > move before we even think a little about health is to stop the looting
of
> > minerals in Africa. For those are the recourses we will use to run those
> > hospitals.
> > And the way you will do it is to do what we did on Elephants when they
> were
> > being porched out of Africa. We set up an embargo on Elephant tusks.
> > Countries like Japan which were surviving on Africa tusks stopped to use
> > them, and found other technologies to use. Let us not fight this war on
> > piece by piece. Let us call for an all out embargo on Africa minerals
for
> 10
> > years. Africa minerals are maintaining life styles in developed
countries.
> > Children in Congo are walking naked although United States and Belgium
are
> > flying out loads and loads of minerals. So this embargo will not affect
> > them. Let us stop these resources from being stolen in day light. In the
> > mean time we again as Africans will use that time to clean up our
houses,
> > for a leader will not have money to maintain him self in power, he will
be
> > in power for he has votes. And will leave the same way. It scares me if
> you
> > ever thought that fighting in Sierra Leone will ever end when developed
> > countries are still looting inside. It is as well laughable to think
that
> > you can build any functioning hospital in Sierra Leone when UK is
pumping
> > guns into this nation. And until when we look developed countries in
their
> > eyes and we tell them to move as Robert Mugaabe has done in Zimbabwe we
> will
> > count millions and millions of our people as dead every day, for we have
> > been doing so every day and no body cares. But tell them to move from
the
> > African assets then you will hear the rumble.
> >
> > It is even very interesting that Uganda is not among the list of
countries
> > with conflicts, that just amazes me and tells the bias you have.
> >
> > The greatest enemy of Africa, is her resources and the sooner we protect
> > them, the sooner these problems will go away. But if we want to clean up
> in
> > little by little we will be falling straight into the hands of World
Bank
> > IMF and so on, organisations we actually do not need, for they get our
> > minerals turn them into money and then lend it to us at un believable
> costs.
> > Let us protect the resources.
> > Em
> > The Mulindwas communication group
> > "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: chifu2222 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 5:26 AM
> > Subject: [Mwananchi] Military Budgets Versus Decrease in Health
Budgets
> in
> > 3rd World countries
> >
> >
> > Military Budgets Versus Decrease in Health Budgets in 3rd World
> Countries
> >
> > By Malachi Opule Orondo
> > Peoples Health Movement
> > Kenya National Coordinator
> > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > True facts of events happening in African continent clearly show that
> > expenditure on military and health in 3rd World are inversely propor-
> > tional in favor of military expenditure, which has put Africa to its
> > knees.
> >
> > All sorts of problems are found in Africa, - wars & conflicts, which
> > kill, maim & displace people, cause endemic poverty, hunger destruc-
> > tion of infrastructure & public amenities etc. Wars, conflicts &
> > civil wars - supported by the developed world at the expense of de-
> > velopment & health. Conflicts are fuelled by developed world to sell
> > their weapons especially Africa.
> >
> > 1. Example: - Rwanda genocide 1994 was well known by the West even UN
> > and they did nothing to stop it. One million lives were lost and now
> > it is forgotten. This conflict has taken Rwanda 10 years backwards
> > and created a permanent wound of hatred that will not heal easily.
> >
> > 2. Angola civil war has raged from 1975 - 2002 i.e. 27 years and
> > killed 2 million Angolans. People were dying in large numbers using
> > arms supplied by the developed worlds to the late Savimbi. Savimbi
> > was serving his masters who were not willing to give him money for
> > health facilities, food or development for his people. This civil war
> > brought Angola to its knees totally that it was to depend on foreign
> > aid up to now. Angola is one country endowed with a lot of resources
> > like oil, minerals and rivers for power generation but nobody is
> > willing to help them develop. Angolans are dying from hunger yet the
> > country is very rich agriculturally.
> >
> > 3. Mozambique also suffered a prolonged guerrilla war supported by
> > the west, which supplied arms to the warring factions. This fighting
> > claimed so many lives in Mozambique and development wise. Mozambique
> > is 10 years backward compared to what it could have been had it not
> > suffered civil war. This conflict claimed 1.5 million lives, created
> > massive poverty, which has made the country dependent on donor fund-
> > ing. Such conflicts also create lots of refugees and human displace-
> > ments in these regions. Such conflicts leave disasters like land
> > mines, which take decades to remove.
> >
> > 4. Liberia fought a civil war for nine years, which claimed lots of
> > lives and destroyed development and health infrastructure, which have
> > never been replaced. Liberia is a country starting life anew yet it
> > got independence in 1847.
> >
> > 5. Sierra Leone has had the most devastating and agonizing conflict I
> > have witnessed in the 20th century. The atrocities being carried out
> > by armed rebels in Sierra Leone are the most horrible ones. Rebels
> > invade innocent people and catch them by force most of them women and
> > children. They rape the women, force children to join their rebel
> > factions. Those who refuse are forcefully amputated in broad day-
> > light. These rebels enjoy this horrible amputation act. They ask you
> > if you want long sleeves short sleeves or sleeveless. A man then lit-
> > erally chops off your hand or leg and you are left bleeding. Why is
> > it that there is money to provide arms for such rebels yet no money
> > for health facilities & development? Sierra Leone is full of amputees
> > and children soldiers with no development nor health facility.
> >
> > 6. Sudan has had a long fierce civil war, which has raged for 19
> > years and has claimed 2 million lives. At times you may think that
> > some lives are not important. Probably that is why arms are massively
> > supplied to sustain the fighting endlessly. Southern Sudan looks like
> > a place without any human beings living there. The pictures we see on
> > television occasionally show people living like wild animals. It is
> > difficult to imagine if these people are human beings like others
> > considering their health and general social life. Despite all these
> > sub-human living conditions in southern Sudan UN has turned a deaf
> > ear with its powerful organs like WHO, WTO etc. concentrating their
> > efforts elsewhere.
> >
> > 7. Somalia's government collapsed in 1989 when Siad Barre was over-
> > thrown and up to now internal fighting is still raging claiming many
> > lives daily. Somalis have fled their country to Canada, US, Kenya,
> > Ethiopia etc.; nobody knows when it will have an organized government
> > to organize its health & social infrastructure. Arms are still being
> > supplied to fighting factions but No Food Nor Medicine.
> >
> > 8. Democratic Republic of Congo (Zaire) has had a long civil war
> > since 1996 which has killed 2.2 mio People. Arms are being supplied
> > but no health facilities to support the citizens! Nobody knows when
> > this civil war will end either. While this fighting and loss of life
> > is going on schools, health facilities and other infrastructure are
> > completely destroyed. It is nobody's business to mind of DRC prob-
> > lems. Ask many people in the west of DRC problems will tell you they
> > have not heard of such a country in this world, but ask them about
> > Kosovo, Kuwait, Timor or Afghanistan and they will tell you every-
> > thing about them. Why? Because those are countries which matter to
> > the developed world and determine the worlds resources and determine
> > destiny.
> >
> > 9. Up to now civil war still claiming lives in Burundi & Rwanda but
> > very little is done or said about it.
> >
> > AFRICA
> > Africa is the most disadvantaged continent in this world we live in.
> > The conflicts I have mentioned have moved the continent backwards in
> > health & development several years. The results of these conflicts
> > have been horrible to the mother continent.
> >
> > 1. 80 % of world refugees are Africans. In the refugee camps living
> > conditions are sub-human. There are no adequate health facilities to
> > cope with such refugee influxes. Children and women die of prevent-
> > able or curable diseases like diarrhea, measles, TB, malaria etc. In
> > war situations like we have in Africa even running schools is a prob-
> > lem. So the bigger population of Africa is becoming illiterate. In
> > those countries where armed conflicts have been on for long, no chil-
> > dren's have been to school. Some children are left to fend for their
> > brothers and sisters after their parents are killed.
> >
> > 2. These wars have brought a lot of shortcomings to Africa, like mas-
> > sive poverty, maiming of citizens, hunger, psychological and mental
> > diseases and worthlessness. Africans have been reduced to sub-human
> > beings - always looking inferior or considering themselves second
> > class compared to people from other parts of the world.
> >
> > 3. HEALTH
> > Health care, which is a right and a basic necessity in the developed
> > world, is far above the reach of an ordinary African! In Africa there
> > is no Government Hospital, clinics or Dispensary adequately stocked
> > with the most basic requirements for an outpatient. While we have no
> > basic medicines like panadols, etc. the west can afford the money to
> > support armed conflicts in Africa. A lot of money is going into waste
> > to develop unnecessary things like nuclear weapons, space exploration
> > etc. which could do a lot to improve health in Africa. Expenditure
> > from the west to Africa on arms versus health is at a ratio of 8 to
> > 2, which is very biased.
> >
> > 4. Africa has the largest number of conflicts in the whole world, but
> > yet they are the least covered by the western media when you watch
> > CNN, BBC, SKY or the Deutsche Welle TV news, you only see the good
> > news of the west and Middle East and Afghanistan. Africa is never in
> > the focus. This media black out is very much working against Africa
> > in terms of development and support in health amenities. Very few
> > people in the west know of the armed conflicts I have mentioned above
> > and their atrocities. So the western media should change their atti-
> > tude and start reporting the truth on these African conflicts
> >
> > 5. HIV/AIDS PANDEMIC
> > Apart from the mentioned armed conflicts HIV/AIDS is more rampant in
> > sub-Saharan Africa than any other part of the world. Out of 34 mil-
> > lion HIV+ people in the world, 75 % are in Sub-Saharan Africa. Every-
> > body in the west is aware of this fact that by 2010 if the rate does
> > not drop, African population will start decreasing. However, the re-
> > sponse from the concerned organizations and the west is not commensu-
> > rate to the HIV spreading rate. The symposium needs to take this is-
> > sue seriously and give it the right consideration. Grassroots NGOS
> > campaigning on HIV/AIDS awareness lack even the most basic facilities
> > like PC computers, videos, video machines, public address systems,
> > transport means to reach the rural grassroots' poor communities which
> > need the information most.
> >
> > Anti-retroviral drugs available in the western world are still not
> > available for the common man in Africa. If they are available then
> > those who need them most cannot afford.
> >
> > The HIV/AIDS pandemic is creating more complicated problems, which
> > may be difficult to handle, if not checked now. It is adding more or-
> > phans to the streets and affecting Africans economy by killing the
> > able bodied people.
> >
> > This symposium should consider items mentioned in this article as a
> > matter of urgency for survival of Africa.
> >
> > By
> > Malachi Opule Orondo
> > Peoples Health Movement
> > Kenya National Coordinator
> > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
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