ugnet_: Fw: [FedsNet] Now UPC cautious on federo

[Mulindwa Edward]

 Yoga Consider the message on Mr Ssemakula's table. Em        The Mulindwas communication group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"     ----- Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [FedsNet] Now UPC cautious on federo Mulindwa, Tell Mr. Semakula my prediction. This federo movement of Buganda is once again going to isolate Buganda from the rest of the country. Apart from Buganda, there is no other nationality (tribe) clamouring for federo. Does Semakula know why? federo is clearly not an issue for the rest of Uganda. While it solves Buganda's identity cirisis, it does not solve anybody else's problem. Tell Mr. Semakula that in due course, through this claomouring for federo, Buganda is going to find itself alone on one side and the rest of Uganda on the other. And so when the terms of federalism are put on the table for discussion, Buagnda will find itself a minority. Mr. Semakula should also not be illusioned to think thatthe other natinalities have no way of countering Buganda's idea of federalims which is intende to get for Buganda a preeminenet position in Uganda affairs. Mr. Semakula will be shocked by the counter-measures the other natinalities will come up with. At that point, rather than acquire for Buganda a preeminent position, Buagnda will find that federalism makes its problems even worse. Bye, Yoga Adhola. _____________________________________________________ Subj: Re: ugnet_: Re: [FedsNet] Now UPC cautious on federo  Date: 2/6/2003 7:21:49 PM Eastern Standard Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent from the Internet (Details) Ugandans   Can we just grow out of this childish discussion and we attack our real problem? Uganda is in anarchy and it does not mater who has important positions in our land, what matters now is that we all as Ugandans can leave in this very tinny country safely. The time when Matek and Mulindwa can meet in Kitgum and we kill the beers, or in Nakisunga and do the same thing. People, we are now afraid to go to Uganda, and we are very afraid for people go to Uganda and die of gunshots, why is that happening? You see these are the stupid arguments we have laboured on life immemorial, when we have been in these forums and Lisa Toro is addressed as "You people" What have we achieved so far? Look here, Uganda's  problem is in Buganda, those are the truths take them or leave them, and the sooner we stop to complain about every thing and about every body but our selves the better. And let history show that I am not the first Muganda to make that statement.   UPC is a bad party let us put that on record, Obote was a bad president as well let us put that on record, but soon after that Ssemakula tell us what kabaka Yekka has done for Uganda? I am sick and tired of these kinds of bickering on cheap shots when you neither have a solution or an alternative. If you hate UPC post the Aims of KY and we see them here and today. That is why you see that a great number of Baganda, we are scattered we are walking in dark as sheep's with out a Sheppard, we need leadership but we hate Lule for he is a Christian so he can not lead DP but we hate DP for it is a Catholic party, then we hate Obote for he is a Northerner on and on. And I ask what exactly do we want in this nation? Is katikiro Ssemogerere a movmentalist the solution to Buganda ?   My grand farther used to say "Ovulungutana nga ayokya ebibeere, nti bisiridde ate bitulise, nti ate ssinga tebyassiridde byanditulise"   Em        The Mulindwas communication group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"   ----- Original Message ----- From: J Ssemakula To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 12:13 PM Subject: Re: ugnet_: Re: [FedsNet] Now UPC cautious on federo This is "politics" at its cheapest. From time immemorial, the Baganda have bent over backward in accomodating the Non-Baganda in Buganda. Fact: Non-Baganda are known to have held many important positions in our land, including the very Lubiri (palace) of our King -- although some positions were and are (appropriately) off-limits. And, this was before and after the coming of the White man. Lots of ink attests to this. Fact: the Baganda have elected Non-Baganda politicians to represent them and their interests since elections became 'fashionable' in Uganda. This includes, many in the present regime -- at all levels from LCs to parliament. Can anyone point out which other areas of Uganda have done this? Anyone recall what happened  and was said when Ssebaggala went to campaign in Ankole in his presidential bid?) Fact: in all of Uganda, it is Buganda which has the most non-indigenous peoples living within her borders. Contrary to popular, but nonetheless uninformed opinion, this practice did not begin yesterday. Again, lots of ink attests to this. Fact: the Baganda have inter-married more across tribal lines that any other single tribal group in Uganda. We may be unique in Uganda in the practice of formally naturalizing people who are originally not ethnically Baganda, into fully fledged Baganda. Merit is what rules in Buganda. While fear mongers like the UPC and other opportunists would have us believe otherwise, it just won't wash! ssemakula ----Original Message Follows---- From: Lutimba Matovu Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: Re: [FedsNet] Now UPC cautious on federo Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:33:28 -0800 (PST)   Netters, There you go with UPC's support for Federo. Now UPC cautious on federo By Alex B. Atuhaire The Uganda People's Congress yesterday said Buganda must be honest on her demand for a federal status. UPC Presidential Policy Commission chairman Dr. James Rwanyarare said the status of Kampala must be addressed honestly and squarely. "The Baganda have a lot of re-assurance to give that we who are non-Baganda can live happily and exploit our virtues fully, including being Bishop of Namirembe," he said. "By the way, anybody who is elected pope becomes the bishop of Rome," Rwanyarare told a news conference at the party headquarters, Uganda House, Kampala. Rwanyarare said that in 1962 the Baganda refused Archbishop Eric Sabiiti to lead the Church of Uganda from Namirembe because he wasn’t a Muganda. That's how All Saints Church, Nakasero, was created. He said such attitudes amount to double standards. Last week Buganda, led by its Katikkiro Joseph Ssemwogerere, presented to the Constitutional Review Commission a fresh demand for a federal status. The kingdom also wants Kampala declared part of Buganda again. The country's capital was demarcated out of Buganda by the 1995 Constitution. In 1966 the UPC government abolished kingdoms after the Buganda Lukiiko ordered then Prime Minister Milton Obote to remove the central government from Buganda's soil. Rwanyarare said yesterday that the Lukiiko was the cause of the 1966 crisis. He said that though Buganda's demand was genuine, President Yoweri Museveni was using Baganda extremists to spoil the move.  Rwanyarare named Minister for the Presidency Gilbert Bukenya and Minister of State for Security Muruli Mukasa.   Party officials Badru Wegulo, Henry Mayega, Adonia Tiberondwa, Patrick Kirunda and Michael Apiliga attended the news conference. MSN 8 helps ELIMINATE E-MAIL VIRUSES. Get 2 months FREE*.