Mr. Dambisya,

Your bemusement is hardly at stake here. The Baganda have a saying that "Gwe wabbanga naye, bwakusula e manju tewebaka". Loosely translated: 'when your former co-thief visits with you, you do not sleep easily.'

The late Grace Ibingira was not your regular UPC mindless/ignorant minion. Rather, as Secretary-General of the UPC,  a Cabinet Minister,  a trained attorney at law and legal adviser to the UPC, he was very much an insider who was privy to a great deal that really went on in the party -- not just what was dished out for the gullible public.

As such, one can expect him to be an authoritative source of the UPC internal/private machinations, precisely because he fell out with Obote -- a factor the latter seems to have been too stupid to fathom the import of. It probably came as a rude surprise to Obote, that Ibingira had been "taking notes" all the time he was with him.

Now, I am not so naive as to fail to realize that as a former victim of Obote, Ibingira might have an axe to grind.

What Ibingira did was "to spill his guts", "to sing" about facts he had intimate knowledge of , having been such an important heavyhitter in the party.

Calling Ibingira's changed loyalties from the UPC & Obote "bias" is not only laughable, it does zilch to undermine the facts he presented in the court public opinion.

Further, it is accepted practice in courts of law for the prosecution to get accomplices to testify against each other.

If you have anything to say about it in defence of your hero, you had best address the facts Ibingira presented -- more of which you can expect to see here.

Ssemakula

ps: Later, I'll get to what Mandela had to say of Obote in the pre-OAU days. Start preparing for the defence of your hero ...

A minor correction, the Muganda man who educated Obote, Nekyon, etc in Lango after Obote's biological father died of leprosy was Nalwemanyidde of the Nseenene clan, not Nalwerimidde as I had posted earlier. It has been said, that he sort of semi-adopted them, but that is another story.

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Subject: ugnet_: Re: [FedsNet] Part 111 BUGANDA CRISIS 1964 -- PhantomArms of the 1960s
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 10:10:59 +0200
Ndugu Ssemakula,
While I am enjoying these exchanges of yours regarding our not so
distant political history, I am bemused by the fact that you would
characterise as "authoritative" anything said by Grace Ibingira of
Milton Obote and his times. Evidently, the two differed in very
fundamental ways; one was imprisoned by the other; each felt betrayed by
the other. Supposing Milton Obote were to write about Grace Ibingira (as
I believe he did during some exchanges with a London Friend), would you
accept his writings/sayings as authoritative on said subject?
I've just got hold of Kanyeihamba's recent book, I intend to go through
it when time allows. Pinycwa's foreword seems to prepare the reader for
yet another biased account of Uganda's constitutional and political
developments. Where, then, does one turn for unbiased, objective and
authentic reading on Uganda?
Best regards,
Yoswa


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