Mr Emmanuel Musaazi,
Surely it is unacceptable for anybody to kill innocent Ugandans; and if President Idi Amin did this, he should face the law.
Some of us who love him so dearly demand no less than justice; to either convict him or clear his name.
But then, what about all those killers now walking freely on the streets of our country?
Seriously, you have to be consistent and call for justice against all these butchers in Luweero, Northern Uganda, Rwanda, DRC, Teso etc....
But sadly, many of our people close their eyes to holocausts like the one in Northern Uganda, and throw up arms saying "Kasita ffe twebaka ku tulo".
That is awful and evil.
Mitayo Potosi
From: "emmanuel musaazi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ugnet_: [abujaNig] Bring Amin back-UPC Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 08:56:07 -0500
Mulindwa as usual your logic defies reason....amin is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Ugandans and plunging Uganda in to chaos and mayhem on a scale hitherto unknown (which aparently you don't disagree with) is what you are characterising as ONLY THOSE REASONS. I don't understand how you reason man...and yet you come on to this forum day and night blabbering about democracy....i question your understanding of the word DEMOCRACY. Here is a man (amin) who was a dictator, a murderer, a sex maniac and a thief who should never even have been a gate keeper at state house who committed horrendous crimes and you are shamelesly defending him...the man is a disgrace to our Nation...anytime his name is mentioned on the media i feel so a shamed...now you are telling us that there was more justice when amin was in power than now...i just hope people who log on to this medium are reading your postings with some sense and noticing your contradictions and your apparent hidden agenda under the guise of bringing democracy to Uganda. Even the international community is aware of amins criminality if not the whole world...the mans crimes were basically caught on tape...but of course according to Mulindwa's theory of democracy amin is a patriotic democratic leader who should be pardoned and given a state burial for the good job he did killing hundreds of thousands of Ugandans and for those Ugandans who were victims of his brutality i guess in Mulindwa's mind it was their fault and they deserved what they got. Shame on you...you are the one that is doping big time.
EMMour nation to the deplorable state it is in.
Now based on only those two reasons, you are trying to get justice for both
the dead Ugandans and the state which he destroyed.
From: "Mulindwa Edward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: ugnet_: [abujaNig] Bring Amin back-UPC Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 19:15:39 -0400
Mwaami Musaazi
So help us to understand your reasoning here. And I am going to be as slow
as possible for may be you will be able to understand my question. You state
"Amin was responsible for the deaths of thousands of Ugandans, and he drove
our nation to the deplorable state it is in.
Now based on only those two reasons, you are trying to get justice for both
the dead Ugandans and the state which he destroyed.
Now do you think we should get Amin and hand him over to Yoweri Museveni, Kaziini, Otafiire, Ruhakana Rugunda, Mayombo and yes let me include in as well Justice Odoki to charge him?
Musaazi have those people given you any indication that they care when a Ugandan is killed by a government machinery or that they care about the development of the country?
Or as usual you are again back on cheap dope?
Em
The Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" ----- Original Message ----- From: "emmanuel musaazi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 8:38 AM Subject: Re: ugnet_: [abujaNig] Bring Amin back-UPC
> Idi Amin must be allowed to return to Uganda alive on the condition that
he
> faces trial for the crimes that he commited directly or indirectly and
these
> crimes are well documented...infact i'm sure that most of the witnesses to
> these crimes will still be alive aferall it's only thrity years ago. One
of
> the reasons why Africa is in a turmoil is because of our blatant disregard
> for life this man (Amin) was responsible for the death of thousands of
> Ugandans and this is very recent history yet for political reasons you are
> willing to spit on the graves of all those people....this is a man who has
> been leaving comfortably in Saudi Arabia yet he is one of those
responsible
> for Ugandas present deplorable state....because of his policies
generations
> of Ugandans lost opportunities....he was responsible for steering an
infant
> country along slipery slope of destruction of course the rest is history.
It
> would be a gross miscarriage of justice if for whatever reason he is
allowed
> to go scot free...a presidence must be set in Uganda and indeed in Africa
> that such behaviour as exemplified by Amin will not be tolerated.....look
at
> how developed countries lament over the death of one of their citizens
home
> or abroad...todate Isreal and indeed the western world is still hunting
down
> Nazis yet in our case we are debating about whether or not to pardon a man
> responsible for murdering thousands just 20-30 years ago it's a
shame...may
> God save us from our selves.
> EMM
>
>
> >From: "Mulindwa Edward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: ugnet_: [abujaNig] Bring Amin back-UPC
> >Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 05:04:08 -0400
> >
> >Mwaami Matovu
> >
> >You know when we are discussing matters of importance I fail to
understand
> >why you drag us through such nonsense. Past Leaders are already returned
or
> >returning to Uganda, Ssabasajja Mutesa is in Uganda, Professor Lule is in
> >Uganda, Godfrey Binayisa is on Kampala road. In fact let me tell you that
I
> >am one of those people who believe that president Obote wants to go home
as
> >well, but Museveni has stated publicly that if he returns he will kill
him.
> >And this is the way Museveni plays politics by making issues personal, a
> >good example is the expedited killing of Cossima Obura, and I am sure you
> >know of their history.
> >
> >But just out of curiosity, how do you know that Obote does not want to
> >buried in Zambia?
> >
> >Now on Mutesa you are not telling the truth, so I will remind you. At the
> >death of the President, Uganda government offered to return the body to
> >Uganda, and you might have not known this for most likely you were not
born
> >yet. But Buganda leaders and Mengo leaders, refused the offer. So let us
> >not
> >put Mengo confusion to the then Uganda government. And yes I know you
will
> >refuse that fact. So let me warn you that if you deny that fact, you will
> >be
> >swamped with factual proofs, for History does not die that fast.
> >Lastly your using the way Mutesa died to plant it on Obote is a very
> >terrible disgrace, one wonders how much you can prove on all those
> >statements. But you see Uganda issues any one can state what he/she likes
> >and that is your decision. But I will say this that during one of my
visits
> >in Uganda, I went to see one oldie Muganda woman, who wanted to know how
I
> >traveled from Canada to Uganda. The moment I told her that I came through
> >London, she became excited and took me for a private discussion, and her
> >question was, "Did you get a chance to see Ssabasajja in London?" For a
> >good
> >number of old Baganda actually believes that Mutesa is alive and in
London.
> >Now Matovu knows for a fact that Obote killed Mutesa. When will living
into
> >illusion end in Buganda one must wonder.
> >
> >Em
> >
> > The Mulindwas Communication Group
> >"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> > Groupe de communication Mulindwas
> >"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Lutimba Matovu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 3:56 PM
> >Subject: Re: ugnet_: [abujaNig] Bring Amin back-UPC
> >
> >
> > > Mulindwa,
> > >
> > > Its in UPC's interest for a precedent to be set for
> > > past leaders to be pardoned or returned for burial in
> > > Uganda.
> > >
> > > Obote's years are numbered and he wouldn't want to be
> > > buried in Zambia.
> > >
> > > Why is Obote's UPC advocating to return Amin when he
> > > didn't do so for the first Ugandan President whom he
> > > murdered? Mutesa was poisoned by Obote's agents and
> > > Obote blocked the return of his body for a decent
> > > burial despite the fact that he knew it was the wish
> > > of the people of Uganda.
> > >
> > > The people of Uganda would rather have all these
> > > killers Obote and Amin buried in their exile homes.
> > > Its even better if their bodies were given to the
> > > wolves. If they return they should be tried and
> > > confined in prison.
> > >
> > > The people of Uganda killed by Obote and Amin were not
> > > given any option of where they were buried. thousands
> > > were buried in mass graves or just left to rot and the
> > > legacy is there in the thousands of skulls in Luwero.
> > >
> > > LM
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Mulindwa Edward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bring Amin home - UPC
> > > > By Chris Obore
> > > > July 21, 2003 Monitor
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The UPC wants the government to let former
> > > > President Idi Amin return home.
> > > >
> > > > The Uganda People's Congress, whose government
> > > > was deposed by Mr Amin in January 1971, says that it
> > > > would be wrong for President Yoweri Museveni to let
> > > > a former president die in exile without support.
> > > >
> > > > According to the UPC, Amin is a Ugandan
> > > > citizen, and the government has the responsibility
> > > > to look after him.
> > > >
> > > > Amin has lived in exile in Saudi Arabia since
> > > > he was overthrown in 1979.
> > > >
> > > > On Saturday, The Monitor broke a story that
> > > > the former head of state was ill and in coma at the
> > > > King Fahad Hospital in Riyadh.
> > > >
> > > > Mrs Nalongo Madina Amin told The Monitor that
> > > > she had asked President Museveni to allow her ailing
> > > > husband to return home.
> > > >
> > > > Mr Museveni reportedly answered that he would
> > > > instead arrest Amin the moment the former President
> > > > set foot on Ugandan soil.
> > > >
> > > > A government official has now indicated that
> > > > the family would be allowed to bring back the former
> > > > President's body if Amin were to die in exile.
> > > >
> > > > The UPC, whose own leader, Mr Milton Obote,
> > > > lives in exile in Zambia, sees it rather
> > > > differently.
> > > >
> > > > "Why should Museveni want to finish off a man
> > > > who is ailing? He is behaving like a witch," said Mr
> > > > Peter Walubiri, a member of the UPC's Presidential
> > > > Policy Commission.
> > > >
> > > > Walubiri said that Amin is a Ugandan who has
> > > > the right to be home.
> > > >
> > > > "Let him be allowed home. After he is well, we
> > > > can discuss the suspicion that he committed crimes.
> > > > The police and the DPP will take action," he said.
> > > >
> > > > Walubiri said that the duty of the government
> > > > is to care for all its citizens, including those in
> > > > prison.
> > > >
> > > > "For us in UPC we definitely have no love for
> > > > Amin, but we would not deny him the right to be a
> > > > citizen," he said.
> > > >
> > > > Walubiri said that Museveni should respect the
> > > > sanctity of life.
> > > >
> > > > The President has no moral authority to
> > > > condemn other people, Walubiri said; adding that
> > > > many people have died since 1972 because of
> > > > Museveni's activities.
> > > >
> > > > He did not elaborate.
> > > >
> > > > "Let Amin get investigated after treatment by
> > > > the state. If the UPC got back to power, we would
> > > > treat Museveni if he fell sick," the UPC official
> > > > said.
> > > >
> > > > President Museveni once said that he would
> > > > shoot dead Obote, if the twice-deposed former
> > > > President dared step on Ugandan soil again.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been
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