I never at any point imagined he would translate that article. You see, that's not the way this communication gang operates. When the truth catches up with them, they'd rather come out with some stupid remark that has nothing at all to do with the issue at hand than educating themselves.
Kasangwawo
From: "ssenya nyange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ugnet_: THE COWS OF THE BUGANDA KING\ Mulindwa Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 19:58:57 -0400
Mr. Mulindwa,
I'm not surprised. I know you dont have the capability to translate English- Luganda- English. Even if you were capable still you wouldnt have done it because you have a duty to appease your communication group of Adhola, upc, etc. You and Adhola can create your own history of Uganda based on your agenda but please dont bring it here on Ugandanet. Read Adhola's history of Buganda on
www.upcparty.org, under the heading "HISTORY & LANDMARKS" you will see what I mean. Thats the only type of your history you want peolpe to read, write and know. We're not going to keep quiet with that garbage. We have to prove you wrong by FACTS quoted from relaible sources. After prooving you wrong, Adhola and Eliba have vanished!
J. Ssenyange ----------------------------------------------------------
From: "Mulindwa Edward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: ugnet_: THE COWS OF THE BUGANDA KING\ Mulindwa Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 20:34:06 -0400
Mwaami Ssenyange
Do you really think that I have time to spend in stupid issues like Buganda
is an independent state? Do I look that silly and childish to you? Please
let us not lower the level of this discussion to such a grade. But again in
respecting freedom of expression, please continue with it with your friend
Ssemakula. For me I will continue attacking Uganda issues, the issues
affecting our people, like NRM government which is killing our people in the
North and east Uganda, and a government supported by Mengo. Who knows may be
just may be I will as well at one point get a chance to see those children
in the camps sleeping out side but with freedom, for that is when I will as
well declare that as Ugandans, we are sleeping. And trust me Mwaami
Ssenyange I will make sure that I spend my first night in Northern Uganda
just for the satisfaction that you the killers are all but out of Uganda.
That is a date.
Have a good one Mwaami Ssenyange as you are enjoying your Buganda nationalism.
Em Toronto
The Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" ----- Original Message ----- From: "ssenya nyange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 7:48 PM Subject: ugnet_: Re: THE COWS OF THE BUGANDA KING\ Mulindwa
>
> Mw. Mulindwa,
>
> Where is the translation? If you're not
comfortable
> translating from Luganda to English, let us know. Eliba and Adhola need to
> LEARN facts. If your fear is to prevent antagonism with your communication
> group of Adhola etc, then my earlier assertion stll stands i.e
>
> "You can try as much as you can to belittle and redicule our Kabaka
> but
> > >remember you will never be equal to him. You ca be equal to Mutebi
as
> >a
> > >person but not as the Kabaka of Buganda. Your ignorance of Buganda
> >culture
> > >and History plus the prejudice and miscalculated agenda will not
win
> >you
> > >friends, reaches and political victories."
>
> TRANSLATE THE BUKEDDE NEWS ARTICLES OF 8TH OCTOBER 2002 PLEASE!!
>
> J. Ssenyange
> -------------
> >From: "Mulindwa Edward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: ugnet_: THE COWS OF THE BUGANDA KING
> >Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 17:37:07 -0400
> >
> >Mwaami Ssenyange
> >
> >I have seen your request to translate what you have posted, I wonder
> >however if you have read Eliba's concerns, so I am forwarding them to
you,
> >may be it will help you to wake up and join real Ugandans with real
> >problems affecting real Uganda. Again well come to 2003.
> >
> >Em
> >
> > The Mulindwas Communication Group
> >"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> > Groupe de communication Mulindwas
> >"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: c.eliba
> >To:
> >Cc:
> >Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 3:28 PM
> >Subject: Re: Fw: ugnet_: THE COWS OF THE BUGANDA KING
> >
> >
> >Yoga
> >
> >Although this net tries to educate many Ugandans and others, I find point
> >like these ones you clearly laid down here falling on twisted minds and
to
> >people bent to ignore facts. I would have thought on a straight forward
> >issue like this rather than waste time one should tell these guys that
the
> >best starting point is for them to go back to their drawing table (learnt
> >basic facts).
> >
> >I certainly would not waste my breathe on it because at the end of the
day
> >it will not serve any purpose. Minds need to meeting or focussed on any
> >point of dicussion/debate or willing to listen and accept other's point
in
> >order to yield any fruit from such debate/discussion. I do not believe
this
> >is the point/case here.
> >
> >You may continue with your effort to educate them but until some people
> >begin to know where and when to start and stop then everything begins to
> >fall within the boundaries of kidding about rather than having serious
> >discussion thus leading to complacency and anything one may assume, God
> >knows what?
> >
> >It is a sad thing for me to make the above observation knowing very well
I
> >support a party that has been tirelessly advocating for everyone,
> >everywhere and even including the guys I am referring to above.
> >
> >
> >Charles Eliba
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 3:24 PM
> > Subject: Re: Fw: ugnet_: THE COWS OF THE BUGANDA KING
> >
> >
> > Mr Senyange,
> >
> > You wrote:
> >
> > "Buganda is a nation and got its independence on 8th
> > Ocober 1962."
> >
> > The date 8th October 1962 is only significant in Uganda's history as
the
> >eve of independence day. Independence Day is 9th October 1962. On that
day
> >the country called Uganda (not Buganda) was granted independence by the
> >British. On that day a nation called Uganda was born. Where then do you
get
> >the idea that Buganda was granted independenec on 8th Ocober 1962?
> >
> > The symbols of independenec were the intruments of independence. These
> >were handed to the then leader of Uganda, Milton Obote. The other symbol
of
> >independence was lowering the British flag and raising the Uganda one.
The
> >person who raised the Uganda flag was again Milton Obote.
> >
> > As all this was happening, the Kabaka of Buganda was sitting in the
> >audiance.
> >
> > Yoga Adhola.
> > ______________________________________________
> >
> > In a message dated 9/20/2003 2:56:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >
> >
> > Subj: Fw: ugnet_: THE COWS OF THE BUGANDA KING
> > Date: 9/20/2003 2:56:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent from the Internet
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: ssenya nyange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 11:58 PM
> > Subject: Re: ugnet_: THE COWS OF THE BUGANDA KING
> >
> >
> > >
> > >Mulindwa,
> > >
> > > You can try as much as you can to belittle and redicule our
Kabaka
> > but
> > >remember you will never be equal to him. You ca be equal to Mutebi
as
> >a
> > >person but not as the Kabaka of Buganda. Your ignorance of Buganda
> >culture
> > >and History plus the prejudice and miscalculated agenda will not
win
> >you
> > >friends, reaches and political victories.
> > >
> > > You said " Mengo must reconsider her dealings with Uganda
> > >government for you see these are situations you will find in a king
> >of a
> > >tribe". You either dont know the meaning of the word "tribe" or
> >you're
> > >totally ignorant of the History and culture of Buganda. Remember
> >Buganda
> > >started with 5 clans with geographical areas and hierachies. More
> >clans,
> > >chiefdoms and kingdoms joined either by agreements\ treaties ( e.g
> > Kamuswaga
> > >of Kooki) or by conquest to form a greater Buganda. Buganda signed
> > >agreements such as The 1900 agreement. Buganda has its own unique
> > indiginous
> > >administrative system and Hierachy which citizens understand in
their
> >own
> > >language( e.g Ssaza, Gombolora, Mutuba, etc) as opposed to RC1,
RC2,
> >RC5,
> > >County, Subcounty, district etc! Some of the 52 clans migrated to
> >Buganda
> > >and were assimilated, given equal status as the original 5, and
given
> >a
> > >unique role to play in Buganda Kingdom. Thats part of civilization-
> >people
> > >of different ethnic background ( and languages)
> > >coming together to form a prosperous political unit, state or
nation.
> > >
> > > Buganda is a nation and got its independence on 8th
> > >Ocober 1962. To call it a tribe as you always do, is not only
> >despising
> > >Buganda but all other African nations and Kingdoms that existed
> >before
> > >colonization. You're actually supporting some white ignorant people
> >who
> > >think that all African were living on trees and in caves before
> > >colonization.
> > >
> > > Your questions shows how ignorant you'e on the
> > >historical ties between Buganda Kingdom and Ankole, Toro, Busoga
etc.
> > You're
> > >Ignorant that Buganda nation existed several centuries before the
> >nation
> > of
> > >Uganda! Mulindwa, you're not even worthy debating with. Im just
> >giving
> > >facts to some netters who may have been fed with Mulindwa's false
> >history.
> > >
> > >J. Ssenyange
> > >------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >>From: "Mulindwa Edward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>Subject: ugnet_: THE COWS OF THE BUGANDA KING
> > >>Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 20:14:42 -0400
> > >>
> > >>Netters
> > >>
> > >>These are some of the issues we must look at and very carefully as
> > >>Ugandans. Mengo must reconsider her dealings with Uganda
government
> >for
> > you
> > >>see these are situations you will find in a king of a tribe. For I
> >have
> > >>read this posting and I could not help but wonder by asking my
self
> > several
> > >>questions
> > >>
> > >>1) Is this a King of Uganda or of Buganda?
> > >>
> > >>For if you look carefully this matter is now in the hands of
> >Ministers,
> > >>councillors, Presidents office and so on.
> > >>
> > >>2) Is Ankole giving cows to the Buganda King for they love him or
> >because
> > >>they want to show Museveni and NRM that they are good cooperate
> >citizens?
> > >>
> > >>If Buganda Kingdom was not financed by NRM would Banyankole care
any
> > less?
> > >>
> > >>It is even interesting that these cows were given by Banyankole
> >whose
> > >>kingdom was denied by again NRM, and I continue that if the
Buganda
> >King
> > >>was a believer in Monarchism in Uganda, he would have taken all
> >steps
> > >>including refusing to sit on the throne, unless all other kingdoms
> >in
> > >>Uganda have been recognised. Ssabasajja did not care any less. And
> >he
> > made
> > >>a very wise decision for here are Banyankole selling what they
have
> >to
> > >>donate cows to him, who knows Buganda might just take over Ankole
!!
> > >>(Thanks to NRM/ Mengo deal)
> > >>
> > >>Lastly few days ago I posted a piece in Monitor about Buganda, and
> >one
> > >>netter posted a response to Ugandanet, where he reminded me that
> > >>maintaining Mengo after NRM, will and can never be a problem, for
> >they
> > have
> > >>been doing so for 500 hundred years. One can not help but wonder
why
> >this
> > >>Ugandan or these Ugandans were able to support their Kingdom for
500
> > years,
> > >>yet Mengo has cows which can not be brought to kyankwanzi. Where
are
> > they?
> > >>
> > >>Em
> > >>
> >
>
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