Musaazi,enlightened,you may be,but having facts at your fingertips
as you allude to is questionable.The facts you utter in this fora are
indeed facts but are not directly related to the subject under discussion!
That Mu7 your thief/murderer hero chooses to "pay"for his daughter to
seek treatment(Give birth!) in Germany cannot be seen in the same light as President Mwai Kibaki,or the late King Hussein of Jordan seeking treatment abroad.The latter two are indeed the facts that show your
enlightenment but the reasons behind their seeking treatment abroad
shows you do not have the fingertips knowledge you want to make others believe.Why did you not include the late Tanzanian President
Julius Kambarage Nyerere(RIP)?.Is that not one of the facts that you ought to have at your fingertips? Musaazi,I do think we should desist from this plagiarism in our reckless effort to defend an accomplished
thief and murderer that your hero and comrade at arms Mu7 is.
Thank you.
Kipenji.
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emmanuel musaazi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
emmanuel musaazi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Mr. Mulindwa as usual what you are saying is mere cheap propaganda without
any basis or proof whatsoever. Can yoy please give us some proof of what you
are alleging. I am hereby dismissing your insinuations as rumours and gossip
not to be taken seriously (utter gabbage). Mr. Mulindwa, i don't know how
old you are or your level of intelect, but sometimes what you and your ilk
put out on this medium is so rediculous it's laughable and sometimes sad. I
(and i believe i speak for majority of thinking Ugandans) are not swayed by
"Lugambo" type allegations, we are enlightened and knowledgeable people who
have our facts on our finger tips. You can not expect to win over the hearts
and minds of Uganda by this type of information.
It is not even true that the President and his family have NEVER USED the
Ugandan healthcare system. If you had carefully read the President's
account, he stated that under certain sucumstances mainly based on security
reasons, based on intelligence which you and i are not (and should not) be
privy to it is not wise to go to Mulago. The President went to further give
some instances when he or his family had made use of the Ugandan health care
system.
This should not even be surprising given that most leaders from third world
countries do seek treatment from developed countries. A recent example was
the then Presidential aspirant of Kenya, Mr. Kibaki, who (just last year)
sort medical attention in Britain, the late King of Jordan sort medical
attention from America before he finaly succumbed to his illness and i can
go on and on. This issue should not be a source of serious discuss.
Your allegations are down right silly.
>From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"John Rukumbura"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: ugnet_: NATASHA KARUGIRE'S BABY
>Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:49:42 -0400
>
>Mwaami Musaazi
>
>What we are debating here is not what Obote found or did not find. We are
>debating the fact that Museveni is scared to go into the Uganda hospitals
>he
>has dilapidated. Apparently Mwaami Matovu is telling me that Museveni is
>not
>scared to go to the hospitals as any President cares about security and I
>think Mwaami Matovu that is crap. So let me take this chance as well to
>expand on why it is crap.
>
>For two days I have consistently asked a very simple question, why was Amin
>and Obote using Uganda hospitals and Museveni with his entire family are
>not
>using them? And no body has had the guts to tell us the truth. Matovu wants
>us to believe that Museveni is worried about security. Mwaami Matovu you
>are
>really wrong.
>
>The problem we have in Uganda is a government which came to power through a
>war. And one of the ways NRM fought the bush war was to get Uganda hospital
>Doctors from Western Uganda, and use them to poison people NRM wanted dead.
>When NRM came to power, it continued to use Uganda Doctors as weapons, to
>kill people who are relised from Luzira prison. And you out there you know
>well that if your relative is relised from Luzira he/she ends up dead out
>side. It is the same system Uganda government is still using today. Among
>those who have been poisoned by Western Doctors in Uganda are Namiiti,
>Major
>Olwol and Paul Muwanga. There are even more names if the decision was to
>post all of them. Museveni knows of this plan that is why he is scared of
>being a patient in a Uganda hospital or any of his family members. The fact
>that Amin and Obote did not use the medical system to kill their political
>opponents, they used Mulago hospital as any other Uganda for the system was
>not corrupt by killer leaders.
>
>Professionally, Doctors are trained to function with out fear or favour,
>that is why you see that Museveni's Doctor in London is an Acholi, for that
>is what he was trained to do, irrespective of the circumstances in Uganda.
>He is a Doctor. And by law he is required to give Museveni nothing less
>than
>a true medical service as Museveni a patient requires. That is one of the
>major problems NRM has brought in our country. The Fighters and in the end
>the state using Doctors to kill Political adversaries. That is why I have
>stated over and over, that I am not more so concerned on what NRM is doing
>in Uganda, for we can clean it up when they leave, but the long term effect
>this backward government will leave in our nation, scares the hell out of
>me.
>
>Museveni turned Uganda Doctors into killing machines, and he is today
>scared
>to use them for even a very simple thing like Natasha's giving birth.
>
>Em
>
> The Mulindwas Communication Group
>"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> Groupe de communication Mulindwas
>"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "emmanuel musaazi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 11:24 AM
>Subject: Re: ugnet_: NATASHA KARUGIRE'S BABY
>
>
> > Mulindwa don't try to decieve us, Obote INHERITED A GOOD SYSTEM FROM THE
> > BRITISH and if you can recall in those days Mulago hospital was
>virtually
> > run by expertriates. Obote's contribution to what he inherited was to
> > destroy it.
> >
> >
> > >From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Subject: ugnet_: NATASHA KARUGIRE'S BABY
> > >Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 17:36:36 -0400
> > >
> > >Lutimba
> > >
> > >Can you then kindly explain to me why Iddi Amin and Milton Obote Used
> > >Mulago
> > >Hospital for their medical attention/s? And in fact more so of Obote
>who
> > >was
> > >shot in Lugogo in Buganda and still went to Mulago hospital.
> > >
> > >I am waiting
> > >
> > >Em
> > >
> > > The Mulindwas Communication Group
> > >"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> > > Groupe de communication Mulindwas
> > >"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Lutimba Matovu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 1:54 PM
> > >Subject: Re: ugnet_: NATASHA KARUGIRE'S BABY
> > >
> > >
> > > > Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:>If you read
> > > > >the president's explanation of why he had to send
> > > > >this girl to Germany you would see that Museveni is
> > > > >a president who is very scared.
> > > >
> > > > Mulindwa,
> > > >
> > > > Tell me in this world which President or PM is not
> > > > scared of being eliminated. All over the World all
> > > > leaders are scared.
> > > >
> > > > Have you ever seen Gerge Bush's security? Have you
> > > > ever been in Uganda when Col. Ghadaffi is there? Have
> > > > you ever seen Tony Blair security? Try to enter your
> > > > host's [Canadian PM] residence and let us know how you
> > > > get on.
> > > >
> > > > Your arguement that Museveni is scared is nonsense.
> > > > All leaders are.
> > > >
> > > > LM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Ugandans
> > > > >
> > > > > President Museveni's grand-child has taken over the
> > > > > press for now almost 10 days. And most of the people
> > > > > are more concerned about the monies that were spent
> > > > > for this creation miracle to take place. I have read
> > > > > many comments including what my neighbour Muniini
> > > > > Mulera posted in Uganda Monitor. I however want to
> > > > > take this thinking a step further in a different
> > > > > direction that many of those who are writing have
> > > > > failed to look at.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you read the president's explanation of why he
> > > > > had to send this girl to Germany you would see that
> > > > > Museveni is a president who is very scared. He is
> > > > > scared of the medical system he has created in
> > > > > Uganda, he has no Doctor he trusts with not only his
> > > > > life but with the lives of the members of his
> > > > > family. But this government is not new in Uganda, it
> > > > > has been in power for 20 years plus or minus. Why
> > > > > has president Museveni failed to get a Uganda Doctor
> > > > > he trusts? Secondly, when I look at president
> > > > > Museveni, I see that he has fewer years in power
> > > > > than those he has been in power, so that means he
> > > > > can not start today to get a Doctor he can trust. My
> > > > > question then becomes, what will he do if he leaves
> > > > > office? If he is not elected tomorrow for a third
> > > > > term, how will he and his entire family get medical
> > > > > attention if he does not trust any of them to today?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Secondly, One of the reasons which brought Museveni
> > > > > to presidency, was to get the Dictators out of
> > > > > power. But Iddi Amin fell sick in Uganda and was
> > > > > operated on in Mulago Hospital. Is President
> > > > > Museveni telling us today that Ugandans loved Iddi
> > > > > Amin than they love him? let me take this argument
> > > > > further, President Obote was shot in Lugogo, and he
> > > > > was immediately rushed again to Mulago Hospital for
> > > > > an operation. President Museveni claims that
> > > > > Ugandans love him more than they love Obote. Why was
> > > > > Obote able to get an operation in a Uganda hospital,
> > > > > yet Museveni is claiming that he had to send Natasha
> > > > > to Germany for security reasons?
> > > > >
> > > > > I have read Museveni's explanation and I could not
> > > > > help but ask only one question, was Natasha sent to
> > > > > Germany for security reasons or because under
> > > > > National Resistance Movement, the entire medical
> > > > > infrastructure has been destroyed? And that includes
> > > > > even the most basic items, water supply and
> > > > > electricity, services which were taken for granted
> > > > > under the two previous governments!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Edward Mulindwa
> > > > >
> > > > > Toronto-Canada
> > > > >
> > > > > The Mulindwas Communication Group
> > > > > "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> > > > > Groupe de communication Mulindwas
> > > > > "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans
> > > > > l'anarchie"
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > =====
> > > > LM
> > > >
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