Thanks for you informaing us about the icredible Imhotep. Of course Imhotep
was of low birth, and like Akmose he rose to become A high priers and those
other things he became


But there is one thing which I macertain about is the imhotep is not the Son
of  son of Ptah". The Great Ptah was the  the first GOd of the Nubians "the
people of the land of Gold "Nubia"  In ancient egypt Gold was called Nubia.
the reason why I ma syaing that Ptah which was the Nubian God, could not
have been the father of Imhotep is because nowhre in the holy bible does the
name of Imhotep appear with Ptah.  However grat Nbians leaderslike Shabakah
and Shakira (spelling) were rembered for colonising egypt and restoring the
pyramids before the the time of Tmose.

Infact the the words in  Genises which says that in begining there was word
and the word was God were was directly translated from the Nubian legend
that in the begining there was Ptah (GOD"and when he spoke his words
exploded into life that was 500 years before Moses. Check Geisis or
Deutronomy. The question which puzzle hostorian is which Moses was it.  was
Mose the Kamose the the prince in the reign of Tutmosis who becamechief
steward (foreign minister) who as a young boy adopted and looked after  by
Termut or Thermuthis the daughter of the pharaoh. In a sense she was
Kamose's guardian 100 years before the Moses of the exodus. the firts moses
the One who discovered Gog the one who brought the worship one one God the
"Aten" or "Atenism" from  from the land of the Hyskos"The Forts Moses". Or
should I say prince Tutmose King Amonhotp eldest son and heir to the throne
who never suceeded to the throne but it was his younger  brother Akhenaten
who became the King.
This Tutmose incidentally also acted as governer of Memphis was later
appointed commander of the king's chariot forces who saw  active service
against Ethiopia. After his successful military campaign he turned into
religious life and became the high priest at the temple of Ra in Heliopolis.
Tenwty years in the reign of his father Amonhotep he resigned his post and
myteriosly, proof is that his tomb was never used which means that he escped
his father who wanted to kill him because he had became more popular.
Remeber  what the jewish historian Josephus  said about Moses: that the
pharaoh appointed Moses commander of an army he sent to fight the
Ethiopians.This could have been the second Moses

So Egypt could not have been the cradle of civilisation as many Egyptologist
want us to beleive.  Even the first  mummyfied body of a small 2 yeras old
black I mean black African found in the Acacus mountains in the south of
Libya tells us that it was was made around 8000 to 10000 BCE that is almost
5000 years before Egypt and the mummies. Therofore the Egyptian civilistion
could have only taken off affter the colapse of the civilisation of the
southern black Africans including the Great Nubian civilisation (Kushite
Empire) who were moving northwards due population explosion into rich
central rigion of Africa before the desertification of the region. The
Egyptians even worshiped the Cow as a diety which was used as a scrifice to
bring the rains by the Acacus and the Nubians. What about the Nubian Cobra?
it is also their on the head of the pharaoh. The early jews also had the
symbol of the horn of a cow on their temples and altars and coins, the
Nubians already used this in their ceremonies!!!!

Thanx for letting me recall the rich history of the Nile and the Nubia
Kushite Empire

Till next time


Ovon Atia



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> Thank you so much Brother Owor for this reference.
>
> Though this Imhotep is not very familiar, I still think that the origin of
> the great Isis, Osiris , Thoth etc... is none other than 'Nubia' or the
> present day region of Bunyoro, Toro, Lango, Acholi, West Nile etc....
>
> There is incredible history here.
>
> There is even a very rich and incredible History of Mathematics and
> astronomy, starting here.
>
> Besides Imhotep being God, there is no doubt that the Catholic/Christian
> Mary, mother of God, was our own culture that has been stolen and twisted
by
> the ever so racist European.
>
> Again, thank you brother man.
>
> Mitayo Potosi
>
>
>
>
> >From: Owor Kipenji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >Subject: ugnet_: Imhotep-(The One that Comes in Peace!)
> >Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 16:15:29 +0100 (BST)
> >
> >
> >
> >Imhotep, Doctor, Architect, High Priest, Scribe and
> >Vizier to King Djoser
> >by Jimmy Dunn
> >
> >Of the non royal population of Egypt, probably one man is known better
then
> >all others. So successful was Imhotep (Imhetep, Greek Imouthes) that he
is
> >one of the world's most famous ancients, and his name, if not his true
> >identity, has been made even more famous by various mummy movies. Today,
> >the world is probably much more familiar with his name then that of his
> >principal king, Djoser.  Imhotep, who's name means "the one that comes in
> >peace". existed as a mythological figure in the minds of most scholars
> >until the end of the nineteenth century when he was established as a real
> >historical person.
> >
> >He was the world's first named architect who built Egypt's first pyramid,
> >is often recognized as the world's first doctor, a priest,. scribe, sage,
> >poet, astrologer, and a vizier and chief minister, though this role is
> >unclear, to Djoser (reigned 2630-2611 BC), the second king of Egypt's
third
> >dynasty. He may have lived under as many as four kings. An inscription on
> >one of that kings statues gives us Imhotep's titles as the "chancellor of
> >the king of lower Egypt", the "first one under the king", the
> >"administrator of the great mansion", the "hereditary Noble", the "high
> >priest of Heliopolis", the "chief sculptor", and finally the "chief
> >carpenter".
> >
> >Of the details of his life, very little has survived though numerous
> >statues and statuettes of him have been found. Some show him as an
ordinary
> >man who is dressed in plain attire. Others show him as a sage who is
seated
> >on a chair with a roll of papyrus on his knees or under his arm. Later,
his
> >statuettes show him with a god like beard, standing, and carrying the
ankh
> >and a scepter.
> >
> >
> >Inscription with the names of Netjerikhet (Djoser) and Imhotep
> >
> >Imhotep may have been born in Ankhtow�, a suburb of Memphis early in
> >Egyptian history. However, other classical writers suggested that he was
> >from the village of Gebelein, south of ancient Thebes.  His father might
> >have been an architect named Kanofer. His mother could have been
> >Khreduonkh, who probably belonged to the province of Mendes, and he may
> >have had a wife named  Ronfrenofert but none of this is by any means
> >certain. As a commoner at birth, he rose through the ranks quickly due to
> >his genius, natural talents and dedication.
> >
> >As the High Priest of Heliopolis, he would have been one of the chief
> >priest of Lower (northern) Egypt. Even though Egypt's capital may have
been
> >located at Memphis, it is likely during this period that Heliopolis was
> >recognized as the religious capital of Egypt.
> >
> >As a builder, Imhotep is the first master architects who we know by name.
> >He is not only credited as the first pyramid architect, who built
Djoser's
> >Step Pyramid complex at Saqqara, but he may have had a hand in the
building
> >of Sekhemkhet's unfinished pyramid, and also possibly with the
> >establishment of the Edfu Temple, but that is not certain. The Step
Pyramid
> >remains today one of the most brilliant architecture wonders of the
ancient
> >world and is recognized as the first monumental stone structure.
> >
> >Imhotep's best known writings were medical text. As a physician, Imhotep
is
> >believed to have been the author of the Edwin Smith Papyrus in which more
> >than 90 anatomical terms and 48 injuries are described. He may have also
> >founded a school of medicine in Memphis, a part of his cult center
possibly
> >known as "Asklepion, which remained famous for two thousand years. All of
> >this occurred some 2,200 years before the Western Father of Medicine
> >Hippocrates was born.
> >
> >Sir William Osler tells us that Imhotep was the:
> >
> >"..first figure of a physician to stand out clearly from the mists of
> >antiquity." Imhotep diagnosed and treated over 200 diseases, 15 diseases
of
> >the abdomen, 11 of the bladder, 10 of the rectum, 29 of the eyes, and 18
of
> >the skin, hair, nails and tongue. Imhotep treated tuberculosis,
gallstones,
> >appendicitis, gout and arthritis. He also performed surgery and practiced
> >some dentistry. Imhotep extracted medicine from plants. He also knew the
> >position and function of the vital organs and circulation of the blood
> >system. The Encyclopedia Britannica says, "The evidence afforded by
> >Egyptian and Greek texts support the view that Imhotep's reputation was
> >very respected in early times. His prestige increased with the lapse of
> >centuries and his temples in Greek times were the centers of medical
> >teachings."
> >
> >Along with medicine, he was also a patron of architects, knowledge and
> >scribes. James Henry Breasted says of Imhotep:
> >
> >"In priestly wisdom, in magic, in the formulation of wise proverbs; in
> >medicine and architecture; this remarkable figure of Zoser's reign left
so
> >notable a reputation that his name was never forgotten. He was the patron
> >spirit of the later scribes, to whom they regularly poured out a libation
> >from the water-jug of their writing outfit before beginning their work.
> >
> >  Imhotep is one example of the "personality cult" of Kemet, whereby a
> >learned sage or otherwise especially venerated person could be deified
> >after death and become a special intercessor for the living, much as the
> >saints of Roman Catholicism. About 100 years after his death, he was
> >elevated as a medical demigod. In about 525, around 2,000 years after his
> >death, he was elevated to a full god, and replaced Nefertum in the great
> >triad at Memphis. In the Turin Canon, he was known as the "son of Ptah".
> >Imhotep was, together with Amenhotep, the only mortal Egyptians that ever
> >reached the position of full gods. He was also associated with Thoth, the
> >god of wisdom, writing and learning, and with the Ibises, which was also
> >associated with Thoth.
> >
> >We are told that his main centers of worship were in the Ptolemaic temple
> >to Hathor atf Dier el-Medina and at Karnak in Thebes, where he was
> >worshipped in conjunction with Amenhotep-Son-of-Hapu, a sanctuary on the
> >upper terrace of the temple at Deir el-Bahari, at  Philae where a chapel
of
> >Imhotep stands  immediately in front of the eastern pylon of the temple
of
> >Isis and of course, at Memphis in Lower (northern) Egypt, where a temple
> >was erected to him near the Serapeum. At saqqara, we are told that people
> >bought offerings to his cult center, including mummified Ibises and
> >sometimes, clay models of diseased limbs and organs in the hope of being
> >healed.
> >
> >He was later even worshipped by the early Christians as one with Christ.
> >The early Christians, it will be recalled, adapted to their use those
pagan
> >forms and persons whose influence through the ages had woven itself so
> >powerfully into tradition that they could not omit them.
> >
> >He was worshiped even in Greece where he was identified with their god of
> >medicine, Aslepius. . He was honored by the Romans and the emperors
> >Claudius and Tiberius had inscriptions praising Imhotep placed on the
walls
> >of their Egyptian temples. He even managed to find a place in Arab
> >traditions, especially at Saqqara where his tomb is thought to be
located.
> >
> >Imhotep lived to a great age, apparently dying in the reign of King Huni,
> >the last of the dynasty. His burial place has not been found but it has
> >been speculated that it may indeed be at Saqqara, possibly in an
unattested
> >mastaba 3518.
> >
> >References:
> >TitleAuthorDatePublisherReference NumberChronicle of the Pharaohs (The
> >Reign-By-Reign Record of the Rulers and Dynasties of Ancient
Egypt)Clayton,
> >Peter A.1994Thames and Hudson LtdISBN 0-500-05074-0Complete Pyramids, The
> >(Solving the Ancient Mysteries)Lehner, Mark1997Thames and Hudson, LtdISBN
> >0-500-05084-8Dictionary of Ancient Egypt, TheShaw, Ian; Nicholson,
> >Paul1995Harry N. Abrams, Inc., PublishersISBN 0-8109-3225-3History of
> >Ancient Egypt, AGrimal, Nicolas1988BlackwellNone StatedMonarchs of the
> >NileDodson, Aidan1995Rubicon PressISBN 0-948695-20-xOxford History of
> >Ancient Egypt, TheShaw, Ian2000Oxford University PressISBN 0-19-815034-2
> >Archives
> >
> >
> >
> >
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