Mwaami Musaazi
With all due respect you are rumbling to a wrong man, I am not a UPC member,
and I am not even a member of UPCnet. My postings and concerns on Uganda
are not even under a political banner, I am posting these concerns of Uganda
People Defence Forces raping women and killing them. Instances Mwaami Matovu
casually calls out bursts, for I think as a human being and as a Ugandan it
is very wrong to think that we as a society and we as Southerners have a
right to assimilate the Northern Section of our country. And a smart man
like you, I think you should have been on my side? Mwaami Musaazi what or
how do you expect to live in Buganda comfortably when Northern Uganda is an
agricultural enterprise? How can you tell me that you will settle for that?
Mwaami Musaazi I want you on my side today, what I posted was or were facts
that we have from very reliable sources, and when you hear the Uganda Vice
president cooking, he is cooking Buganda Federalism so that Buganda can
continue with her conquest as was done in Bunyoro and many other former
non-Buganda parts. Musaazi there is no record where any body stood for
Banyoro as they were being slaughtered by Muteesa, But as for me and my
house we will fight for the population of Northern and Eastern Uganda,
untill when we will have peace in those areas, even if you guys will kill
all of them and we will end up with one person alive. I will fight for that
one soul.
Mwaami Musaazi this is not a time to talk about Museveni or Obote, so let us
not twist the facts, this is about our people who your government has been
killing since its inception. And I want you to take a message a massage that
must be very clear. We are tired. We are tired of excuses, we are tired of
locking our people in refugee camps, we are tired of receiving photographs
of raped and killed women, we are tired of seeing widows and widowers,
Musaazi enough is enough.
And when you are responding to me, please do not use terms as government
institutionalized for Museveni stated that Northerners are Biological
substances, and some of these people we should not live with them in
society. If you did not hear him state so, ask Lutimba Matovu he is in
London, he can ask the BBC for a tape for you, for that is one of the
station he made that statement/s.
And on your research about UPC do not bother with their website, contact my
neighbour Chris Opoka who you can reach at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ask him all
things you need to know about UPC for he is a politician. But for me I am a
very small Ugandan who think that killing people for more than 20 years
surely deserves our attention, even if they are biological substances and we
are sleeping. Mwaami Musaazi Moral demands nothing less of you.
Em
Toronto
The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
Groupe de communication Mulindwas
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
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From: "emmanuel musaazi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: ugnet_: A NEW UGANDA IS IN THE MAKING
> Mulindwa, as usual you have dodged answering direct questions about UPC's
> LIFE PRESIDENT OBOTE. Even questions that ask your own opinion about
> democracy. You instead direct me to UPCnet. If you say i'm stupid for
asking
> simple personal questions about your party's record and your own opinion
> then you must be EXTREMELY STUPID to direct me to UPCnet for answers. I
> guess that is how you plan on handling debates "refer to UPCnet" "very
> briliant". Imagine Al gore or Bush being asked questions about there
party's
> record and their opinions and them responding "please refer to the party's
> web site for answers"
>
> Netters it just goes to show that the UPC has nothing to offer Uganda.
When
> you ask them simple principled questions they suddenly become dumb and
then
> procede to insight tribal hatred, which has nothing to do with the
questions
> that were asked. KONY IS DOING THE KILLING IN THE NORTH, THE WHOLE WORLD
> KNOWS ABOUT IT. You can spin all you want but facts are facts. Yes it is
> unfortunate that there are isolated incidents of army mis-conduct, and the
> culprits are always punished (although you don't report that part), this
> unlike the UPC days (prio to UPDF) where military/army abuse was
> institutionalized, condoned and in some case encouraged. All of you who
were
> in Uganda those days, can remember the road blocks, where soldiers openly
> solicitated for bribe, detained people at random (not to be seen or heard
> of), that is certainly not the case in todays Uganda. Mr. Mulidwa i want
you
> to give me one incident where a UPDF soldier mis-behaved and was not
> punished.
>
> Finaly Mr. Mulindwa my questions still persist. Since you are good at
> spinning i guess i have to ask many times to get a simple answer.
>
> 1. When is the UPC life President going to be changed or is he above
> reproach or challenge or are all of you (in the UPC) too scared to do it.
>
> 2. Is it health for a country like Uganda, in it's infant stages of
> democracy to have a person who has been a party leader for 50yrs,
President
> for 10yrs, an advocate of one-party rule, take the helms of leadership.
>
> 3. Did you Mr. Mulindwa support the unilateral abrogation of the Uganda
> constitution by Obote, if not what is your personal position.
>
> Netters this is my problem. We in Africa think that democracy is just
about
> forming a party, giving it a name and then proceding to paint the other
said
> as black as possible (even resorting to lying) and the of course raking up
> tribal sentiments (as you can see from Mulindwa). We fail to understand
that
> democracy is also a way of life (a culture or sorts). If we all agree that
> democracy is about the rule of law, freedom of expression, and elections
> (which ensure full perticipation of the people), then why is had to see
that
> OBOTE is not suited for such a system, infact OBOTE would have even been
> better off in the NRM (based on his record), he obviously favours, one
party
> rule, infact he thrives in it. This is a man who destroyed UGANDA'S FIRST
> CONSTITUTION, WHICH WAS BASED ON DEMOCRATIC PRINCIPLES AND INSTITUTED A
> SINGLE PARTY SYSTEM WHICH IS UNDEMOCRATIC (Mulindwa has no answer to that,
> he says we should go to UPCnet). This a man who has been President of a
> party since it's inception, 50 years (or more), I GUESS HE DOES NOT SEE
> ANYONE IN UGANDA FIT ENOUGH TO REPLACE HIM (Mulindwa says we should go to
> UPCnet for answers). THIS IS A MAN UNDER WHO'S REGIMES THERE WAS LITTLE OR
> NO FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION. THE FIRST TIME HE HAD A DISAGREEMENT WITH THE
THEN
> PRIME MINISTER OF UGANDA (KABAKA MUTESSA) HE RESORTED TO MILITARY FORCE
AND
> VIOLENCE. NETTERS THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BEING FOR OR AGAINST
BUGANDA,
> KABAKA MAY HAVE BEEN WRONG, BUT OBVIOUSLY WITH THE FRAME WORK OF THE
> CONSTITUTION AT THE TIME AND THE LAW OF THE LAND, OBOTE DID NOT HAVE TO DO
> WHAT HE DID BECAUSE IN SO DOING HE SET HE PRESIDENCE WHICH HAS LED US TO
> WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
>
> NOW THIS SAME MAN "OBOTE" WANTS TO COME BACK, UNCHALLENGED (EVEN FROM
WITHIN
> HIS OWN PARTY) ABOUT HIS RECORD. IT TELLS ME THAT OBOTE IS UPC AND UPC IS
> OBOTE, THAT IS WHY MULINDWA AND OTHERS IN THE PARTY CAN NOT DEAR CHALLENGE
> OBOTE. ITS LIKE A MAFIA TYPE SETUP, WHERE THE DON IS NOT QUESTIONED OR
> CHALLENGED TO DEATH.
>
> NETTERS WHAT I AM SAYING IS SIMPLE COMMON SENSE. IF OBOTE CAN NOT BE
> CHALLENGED FROM WITHIN HIS OWN PARTY, WHAT CHANCE DO WE HAVE AS PEOPLE WHO
> DO NOT BELONG TO HIS PARTY TO CHALLENGE HIM SHOULD HE BECOME PRESIDENT
(GOD
> FORBID). IF OBOTE BECOMES PRESIDENT (GOD FORBID), IT'S DEJAVU FOR UGANDA
> AGAIN. THAT IS ALL I AM SAYING. I DON'T NEED TO GO TO UPCNET (AND FOR THAT
> MATTER ANY UGANDA) TO FIND OUT WHETHER OBOTE CAN BE REPLACED OR THE
OPINIONS
> OF IT'S MEMBERS ABOUT THE PAST RECORD OF THERE PARTY, THAT IS SILLY.
>
>
> >From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: "Owor Kipenji" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "John Rukumbura"
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: ugnet_: A NEW UGANDA IS IN THE MAKING
> >Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 23:02:02 -0400
> >
> >Ugandans
> >
> >When ever you refuse to state the facts you will remain wrong untill when
> >proven otherwise.
> >
> >The guns in Uganda and specifically in Northern and Eastern Uganda, are
not
> >guns to create democracy or even to create dictatorship. And I think we
as
> >Ugandans must put this very straight, for when you equate Museveni's war
in
> >Northern Uganda to either creating Democracy or dictatorship I think it
> >means we are missing some very fundamental factors in that war.
> >
> >1) When did this war start?
> >
> >It started from way back as soon as Yoweri Museveni under the banner of
> >National Resistance Movement came to power. The war in Northern and
Eastern
> >Uganda has been so long that its length has surpassed all wars that have
> >ever happened in our nation. That war has killed more people than any war
> >has ever killed in Uganda's history.
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