it is a huge task trying to explain anything concerning federalism to our friend, being that anything to do with federalism is anathema to him (although he does not know what it actually means). I have failed to understand why Mulindwa (& co) are so scared of federalism; it seems just the mention of it makes him s... in his pants.
But back to the said article. It seems the issue is procedural. You see, its very difficult for someone who does not normally give his personal opinion (whose views are always coloured by a group behind him, in this case the communications gang), to be able to understand that a person can actually give his personal point of view without representing anyone. Therein lies the problem. Only that in this case Mulindwa's accusations make less sense, in that the person posting the article here was not even giving his own opinion.
As for federalism - feudalism, Mulindwa asked me for the meaning of the two recently and I provided him with the most elementary description (from the dictionary of my neighbour's son). He never got back to me on that. So I just hope it didn't confuse him even more because he still seems to think its the same thing.
Kasangwawo
From: "M. Kibuka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Museveni and African Americans Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:16:39 +0200
Bwana Mulindwa,
I'm not muzzling anything; but you are. I have asked simple straight
questions that you fail to answer, and now jump into that "I told you"
business. You told me nothing. Whatever Bwana Matovu is telling you is
between you and him; it is in no way any part of this thread. You take it up
with him over there.
You ask: "Who told you that all Ugandans must either be Movementists or Federalists?" I pray you quote my words very well. I have never said all Ugandans are federalists. Don't bend the truth here so as to make a point. Again, in case you have forgotten: according to Odoki commission 65% of Ugandans and 97% of people in Buganda prefer federalism. If you do not believe Odoki, good for you.
And now back to where we came from; answer the questions that I posed, which
I repeat here for your convenience:
1. Do you think that the good person who promoted AAI was doing so as a federalist or on behalf of federalism? Yes or No. 2. Are you really absolutely sure that the people who promote AAI are federalists? Yes or No.
Many thanks indeed for your cooperation.
On a lighter note: I do not use Bwana Kasangwawo in any capacity, I do correspond in my own capacity, and so does Bwana Kasangwawo. Please.
Cheers, M. Kibuka +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ True Federalism is the only way forward Visit http://www.federo.com
-----Original Message----- From: Edward Mulindwa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 21 October, 2003 10:48 To: M. Kibuka; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Museveni and African Americans
Mwaami Kibuuka
I do not think that we should burn gas on this, for you are failing to stick to the point however clear it is
a) If you did not know who posted the function on Ugandanet, why did you
sent my name to Kasangwawo, who you use as an attack dog?
and b) (......many federalists are also DP members, Movementists, fathers,
teachers, consultants, Africa America Institute alumnus, as well as UPC
members, Reformists, etc..) Yet Lutimba Matovu states (......All Ugandans
DP members, fathers, teachers, consultants, Africa America Institute
alumnus, as well as UPC members, Reformists, etc.. Are Movementists.)
Who gave you guys the right to make those conclusions on our lives? Who told you that all Ugandans must either be Movementists or Federalists? Mwaami Kibuuka, you guys keep on deluding your selves that you understand Ugandans, through muzzling us, but one day you will both walk into a space of surprise. And I will come back and e-mail you the usual 3 words I have e-mailed to you before. "I TOLD YOU"
Em
The Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" ----- Original Message ----- From: M. Kibuka To: Edward Mulindwa ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 2:53 AM Subject: RE: Museveni and African Americans
Bwana Mulindwa,
There was no abuse intended at all; I just stated what I believe to be entirely true. Correct me if there is no truth in what I believe! Thus, I'm very sorry if you felt abused.
Notwithstanding the difference between promoting (encourage the popularity, sale, development or existence of something) and supporting (agree with and give encouragement to someone or something), I'm not a member of UgandaNet. Therefore, I can't tell you who promoted that function there.
Nonetheless, many federalists are also DP members, Movementists,
fathers, teachers, consultants, Africa America Institute alumnus, as well as
UPC members, Reformists, etc. Since you seem to know it all, in what
capacity did the good person encourage the said function? What makes you
think that he promoted that function in his capacity as a federalist?
Cheers, M. Kibuka +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ True Federalism is the only way forward Visit http://www.federo.com -----Original Message----- From: Edward Mulindwa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 20 October, 2003 23:25 To: M. Kibuka; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Museveni and African Americans
Mwaami Kibuuka
Let us not use abusive language Please.
Having stated that. I am going to respond directly to you, and not through a Muluka Chifu as you have "Bwana" Kasangwawo. You state ".....at least those from FedsNet, have never supported the function he is talking about. This is no longer a fixation with federalism/FedsNet, it is becoming an unhealthy obsession"
There are two very important issues
a) Can you kindly state or tell us who posted that function to Ugandanet? b) On the long time I have watched you in these forums, one would expect that by now, you can know the difference between "promoting a function" a term I clearly used and "Supporting a function" a term you have created and forced down my throat.
But hey what is new, we can mean feudalism in our entire plans, but call it federalism for public consumption. They are strange indeed.
Em Toronto
The Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" ----- Original Message ----- From: M. Kibuka To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Edward Mulindwa ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 2:24 PM Subject: RE: Museveni and African Americans
Bwana Kasangwawo,
You seem to know Bwana Mulindwa better and longer than I do. May be
you can make him understand that the federalists, at least those from
FedsNet, have never supported the function he is talking about. This is no
longer a fixation with federalism/FedsNet, it is becoming an unhealthy
obsession.
Good luck.
Cheers, M. Kibuka -----Original Message----- From: Edward Mulindwa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 19 October, 2003 23:16 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Museveni and African Americans
Roy
Thanks for the clarification, it is important to note as well that
this same organisation works with the CIA. What is still puzzling me here is
why is this function being promoted by the federalists! That is still a
mystery as with all Uganda affairs.
Em
The Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" ----- Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 5:07 PM Subject: Re: ugnet_: Museveni and African Americans
Please note that this is not an organization of Africans in
America; it is "The Africa-America Institute" referring to the continent and
the US not to people.
It has nothing whatsoever to do with the community of African
people born in the US. As its declares it is " multi-racial,
multi-ethnic"...it would be more accurate to say Museveni and American
government and corporations; as it is a government, foundation and corporate
created and funded entity. Its board include people such as
MR. ALEXANDER B. CUMMINGS, JR. Executive Vice President, The Coca-Cola Company President & COO, Coca-Cola Africa
DR. LINDA M. DISTLERATH Vice President, Global Health Policy Merck & Co., Inc.
HELENE GAYLE, M.D., M.P.H Director, HIV, TB & Reproductive Health Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation
MR. BRIAN HENDERSON Vice Chairman Merrill Lynch Europe, Middle East and Africa
AMBASSADOR RICHARD HOLBROOKE Vice Chairman Perseus, LLC
MR. GEORGE KIRKLAND Vice President, ChevronTexaco Corporation President, ChevronTexaco Overseas Petroleum
MR. WILLIAM R. RHODES Senior Vice Chairman, Citigroup Chairman, Citicorp & Citibank, N.A.
MR. TED SMYTH Chief Administrative Officer and Senior Vice President Corporate and Government Affairs H.J. Heinz Company
We must be aware of the immense impact of misconstrued connotations and denotations; the uninitiated would assume that there is a relationship between Pres. Museveni and so-called African-Americans, where in fact there is none..
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