You guys who come on to this medium throwing unecessary rhetoric and chatter just to explain simple things, well some us sieve through your jaggon and expose it for what it is "rubbish". As i have said before, one does not need to be a rocket scientist to solve most of the problems in Uganda. Take for instance the "Agoa girls" case, it is a simple case of greed and indiscipline, yet some you continue to drag, strain and spin the issue, giving all sorts of absurd interpretations, to the point of bringing in "SLAVERY" and you call that "INTELLIGENT".
From: Owor Kipenji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ugnet_: Mr. Chris Opoka-Okumu: Help to analyze latest Sudan/ Uganda relationship
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:55:38 +0000 (GMT)
Musaazi,I find your analysis as ignoble as it could ever be.I do believe
you graduate from this stage and start seriuos meta analysis of issues
and events then you will get some glimpse of comprehension of the issues you are wallowing in.
As for your issues with UPC and her supporters I very well know what you stated which in your mind you think are facts will get no response
because of its contemptous nature and should actually be treated thus.
Wish a better meta-analytical week.
May God guide you in this endeavour.
Thank you.
Kipenji.
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emmanuel musaazi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
You guys are so amaizing in your reasoning...when America supports the SPLA
against the subjugation of the south including slavery, you say America is
promoting war in Africa and come up with all sorts of jaggon about
colonialism, on the other hand when America brokers a piece deal that stops
the waring groups in Sudan, you say America is after Oil. For your
information America may have/can/and would have bought oil from Sudan even
if the conflict in Sudan had not been resolved, just as they had been buying
oil from Iraq when Saddam was President and America and Iraq were virtually
at war.
This is the same mentality you use to analyze Ugandan politics..when
President Museveni tries to negotiate with Kony including afforing them
Pardons you complain, when he egages them in war to stop the misery they are
inflicting on poor Ugandans in the north you complain. I guess you will fill
better if people in the north are dying under Obote, just as you felt better
when Ugandans were dying under Obote and Amin. EVERYTHING IS OKAY WHEN OBOTE
IS IN POWER; PEOPLE CAN BE KILLED AT RANDOM AND NOBODY SHOULD COMPLAIN
BECAUSE IT IS OBOTE, SOLDIERS CAN RAPE AND KILL AT WILL AND NOBODY SHOULD
COMPLAIN BECAUSE IT IS OBOTE, OBOTE CAN DESTROY THE CONSTITUTE AND BECOME A
DICTATOR AND NOBODY SHOULD COMPLAIN BECAUSE IT IS OBOTE. I'M SURE AMERICA,
BRITAIN, AND THE WEST CAN ONLY BECOME YOUR FRIENDS ONCE THEY ENDORSE OBOTE.
OBOTE SEEMS TO HAVE UPC MEMBERS UNDER A SPELL. EVERY ASPECT OF THERE REASONING AND THINKING IS BASED AROUND OBOTE. IF YOU LIKE OBOTE, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT IS HITLER OR WHOEVER, YOU ARE ACCEPTED.
>From: Omar Kezimbira
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: ugnet_: Mr. Chris Opoka-Okumu: Help to analyze latest Sudan/
>Uganda relationship
>Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 03:50:41 -0700 (PDT)
>
>
>Mr. Opoka-Okumu,
>
>Could you assist in this space by throwing some analytical insight from
>your experience. Speculations are that the latest dramatic events
>surrounding Sudan/SPLA relationship is an American gimmick aimed at serving
>their own interests with their eyes firmly glued to Sudan's new found oil
>wealth. Could such efforts of brokering peace with ultra motives by the USA
>be construed as genuine?
>
>The Sudanese foreign minister (read below) is reported to have said that
>his government would not tolorate Kony and further warned that his
>governement's peace efforts with SPLA would fail if other conflicts with in
>the region were not resolved. Does that mean that the Sudanese are somehow
>skeptical about the peace drive under the pressure from USA?
>
>Finally, will the latest development bring Uganda and Sudan honestly closer
>considering that there is a tremendous mistrust between Bashir and
>Museveni? You must have seen the trend whereby Museveni and Bashir have
>appeared to warmly embrace each other and only for Museveni to call Bashir
>names the next day. The last paragraph in the news item below reads: "Under
>the on-going peace talks, it has been agreed that the Sudan Peoples
>Liberation Army takes over the Southern Sudan for a period of six years
>while elections are organised." Is a new nation between Uganda and Northern
>Sudan in the making?
>
>Thanking you in advance.
>
>Omar Kezimbira.
>
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>
>Sudan rejects Kony rebels - New Vision 25th October 2003
>
>BALD HEADS: (Left to right) Meles Zenawi (Ethiopia), Abdi Kassim (Somalia),
>Joachim Chissano (Mozambique) Omar el Bashir (Sudan) facing Yoweri Museveni
>(Uganda ) and Mwai Kibaki (Kenya) after the opening of the IGAD summit in
>Kampala Friday. Uganda takes the chairmanship
>
>By Geoffrey Kamali
>SUDAN foreign minister, Dr. Mustafa Osman Ismail, has said his government
>would not tolerate Kony rebels because it considers the group a terrorist
>organisation.
>
>He warned that talks with the Sudan Peoples' Liberation Army rebels would
>fail if other conflicts in the region were not resolved.
>
>He said similar efforts should be used in pacifying northern Uganda.
>�We believe that if we are to look for comprehensive peace in Sudan, it
>will lead to comprehensive peace in the region.
>
>�There should be the same zeal in settling the problems in northern Uganda,
>in Somalia and between Eritrea and Ethiopia,� he explained.
>
>He was addressing journalists during a press briefing at the Sudanese
>Embassy in Kampala on Thursday.
>
>�We should not look at the Sudan peace process in isolation instead we look
>at it in a broad way in the region,� he added.
>
>He hailed Uganda's efforts in resolving differences, saying security organs
>from the two countries had signed various military protocols to flush out
>the LRA rebels.
>
>�Sometimes, there are some complaints that maybe, some (Sudanese) military
>officers are involved but to our knowledge, there is no involvement of our
>officers,� Ismail said.
>
>The briefing was later followed by an inauguration ceremony of the embassy
>premises by Sudanese President, Omar el-Bashir and Ugandan Vice President,
>Prof. Gilbert Bukenya. Both cut a cake and left shortly.
>
>Ismail said his government is now concentrating on reconciling all people
>and regions of the country through fair sharing of power and wealth.
>
>Under the on-going peace talks, it has been agreed that the Sudan Peoples
>Liberation Army takes over the Southern Sudan for a period of six years
>while elections are organised.
>
>He denied that there is slave trade in Sudan.
>
>Published on: Saturday, 25th October, 2003
>
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