Mr. Johnson,

Accusing someone of running a smear campaign against the UPC is akin to accusing someone of running a smear campaign against the Nazis or Kony.

UPC has a record. It is a brutal record and many hundreds of thousands of Ugandan perished at their hand. Do you propose that we should just pretend that we have forgoten all the horrors they visted upon us just because it makes some uncomfortable to talk about it?

Don't you find it strange that none of the UPC has had the spine to even offer an apology to their victims, let alone take responsibility for their deeds? Not even an apology for single handedly destroying Uganda's federal experiment -- even though many UPC bigwigs gave lip-service to supporting the idea of a federation of East Africa.

Instead, we are reminded constantly on how numerous and even popular they are in Uganda, etc. A crime, especially against humanity, is still a crime -- regardless on how many people perpetrate it. The Nazis, too, were also once numerous, wielded enormous powere not just over indiviadual life and death but over entire nations, and even deluded themseves that their Reich lasting 1,000 years, etc. I won't bore you with historical facts as to how they ended up or how quickly they got there.

However, I pose a theoretic question to you: if free and fair nation-wide elections were held in Uganda today, and there were exactly two parties in the running; namely UPC (Obote) and NRM (Museveni), who do you think would win the majority vote in the country? Why would that be the outcome?

That is reality.

Ssemakula



 

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WBK,

If there is nothing left to be discussed or debated on federalism in Uganda, it is better one keeps their mouth shut rather than sowing discord by other means. The tirade you have launched recently against UPC and its members has no place in a place like Uganda where we are searching for that moral fibre which has been destroyed for forty years. I am not a UPC member nor any other political party in Uganda, but I disagree with the biting attack you have run against the party for the last several days. There will be a time and place when you can happily smear campaign the party, for now we are seeking for partnership with all Ugandans of whatever color, belief and creed. We need to build friendship not more enemies so that we can do away with the war in the north, so that we can do away with the laws that enshirine privileged positions to the few in Uganda...If we continue to approach Uganda's poblem from the standpoint of a destructive past, the kind of new spirit---the sp irit of the three P's...Peace and Prosperity through Partnership will never arrive.

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Mr. Oryema:

Easy. I have not by any imagination turned Fedsnet into a DP marketing tool. If I have done so, my apologies.
 
This is one of those seasons when anything goes here and there is a reason for that. There seems to be nothing left at least for the membership of this forum to discuss about Federalism. We would be glad to go back to the core mandate of this list, if there is something to discuss.
 
That said, it is extremely frustrating and tan God, am not into that political correctness. Look at the interpretations about the massacres in Lira. 200 dead. Incredibly Ugandans are not moved. They continue to get whatever political mileage they cant squeeze from the tragedy.
 
Many will simply not condemn Kony. Listen to the accusations and they are not just from some emotionally unbalanced individuals but some who claim to be steady. What is the logical conclusion when one "says that it is not the rebels responsibility to ensure security to all Ugandans, but UPDF's role". 
 
I have a question for those who have such a warped mentality:
 
Okay, suppose your daughter or sister dressed in some suggestive dress as Ugandans are keen to dress these days, and was raped by some nut case.  Would it be acceptable for the rapist-Kony and his bandits are all that-to argue that I raped your daughter or sister because she was dressed in suggestive manner or an inviting manner? If UPDF is responsible is it not also the responsibility of the father/brother/and even husband/boyfriend to tell the daughter/sister/wife/girlfriend to dress properly before stepping out of the house, whatever that means?  That is the logical conclusion of blaming UPDF while absolving Kony from his brutality, and refuse to be part of that nonsense.
 
 
No wonder more innocent lives are being killed in Uganda and some still do not get it. People, the real culprit is KONY. UPDF may be weak but who gave Kony authority to attack innocent citizens? Even the Amuka boys are trying to defend innocent lives.
 
What is happening in Lira does have an impact on the two competing federal visions discussed on this list: The United Northern visionl versus the 4 states vision. How are the two visions impacted by Kony's activities particularly in Lira? Does it help or hurt a particular vision? Why the ambiguity? Many even on this list have doubts that it is actually Kony's LRA killing the people and it won't be long when UPDF or Bamuzze are fingered.  The argument will soon be that Kony and his bandits do not have such big guns, do not have such bombs etc. How do those who say so know? Why is that the case in the midst of overwhelming evidence? Why the denial? These are certainly federal related issues and they belong right here on this forum.
 
We have tempted the moderators patience but it is okay if it can help to clarify certain positions. At least we know the Kony apologists in our midst.
 
 
Mr. Oryema, I refuse to succumb to political correctness and I am ready to take personal responsibility for my views.
 
Kyijomanyi 
 
 
   
 
 


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