Mulindwa, if you can not handle the heat (truth), it's best for you to find other things to do with your time. That's how silly a discussion with you can go. Indeed, you need to rest!
Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:That is how silly this discussion about Buganda becomes and I decide to do things more worth my timeEm----- Original Message -----From: Rehema MukoozaSent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 1:34 PMSubject: Re: [Ugandacom] Cultural leaders should stay out of politics = NO! What is "poli...The Baganda and I, myself agree on this one. The Kabaka will always be 'apolitical', until you see him on a ballot paper or political party's committies. I think you can understand that clearly well. Ask yourself, what rights do politicians hold the Kabaka does not have?? Rights like; running for elections, belonging to political parties.
Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:"I think you do not get the concept. The Kabaka will always be 'apolitical'."And who exactly states that, Baganda or your self?----- Original Message -----From: Rehema MukoozaSent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 9:12 PMSubject: [Ugandacom] Re: ugnet_: Cultural leaders should stay out of politics = NO! What is "poli...Matek:I think you do not get the concept. The Kabaka will always be 'apolitical'.There reason is because he will not be on a ballox paper, nor political party carcuses or committies etc. The Kabaka can only be political if he stands for office, appears on ballox papers, and stands in political party carcuses/committies etc. The man does not do all that so why think he is political?? I hope you do get that simple explaination this time.Mr. Matek, you seem to have been misinformed that Buganda negotiations are only limited to the military dictatorship of Mu7 and his government. I must remind you that Buganda has always negotiated with whoever is in power at the time, all way back in history. Buganda is part of Uganda and it can not help that fact. That is why it will always, whether it likes it or not be faced to negotiate with other forces in Uganda. How do you blame Buganda for doing that (negotiating with Mu7)?? Buganda is trapped in the center of all this miss caused about by other forces in Uganda. What do you expect it to do?? Sit around and bring nothing to the table?? I think that's a joke. The capital city is located right in the heart of Buganda. As a matter of fact Buganda's capital was made Uganda's capital. Just see how unavoidable negotiations will be (are) between Buganda and whoever is leading Uganda at any time, now or tomorrow.Until you show me a Kabaka of Buganda who is standing for office, that is when you should stand up and inform me of how the Kabaka is being "political". Until then, you have no points to prove to a critical thinker. Standing for office is a political parties's job and should stay that way.Zakoomu R.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Rehema:
The fact of the matter is that the constitution of Uganda (as it stands now) pretty much regulates..rather governs (if you want) the way traditional leaders (including the Kabaka) operates. If the Kabaka of Buganda wants to act like a real king, he must have this part of the Uganda constitution changed...rather amended to favor his position and that of his fellow "traditional leaders" all throughout the country. The Kabaka is apparently aware of this fact. That is why he has called upon his subjects in Yoweri Museveni''s Parliament to campaign for real power!!
Doing so involves playing HIGH LEVEL POLITICS/negotiation on the part of the King (call it what ever you want) with the central Governmen t (in this case the NRM military dictatorship) and the people of Uganda (through their elected representative). The Kabaka is apparently aware of this fact.
You cannot say that the Kabaka should be apolitical.
Later
In a message dated 2/23/2004 10:00:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
1. The collection of taxes in the territory of Buganda is part of traditional powers. How does one expect to run traditional matters in this territory without collecting taxes?? This is common sense. Today, politicians do not collect taxes and they should not. They should leave that duty to traditional leaders. Politicians should stick to giving knowledge and advising the King on operational policies needed to get development running.
2. The call to give Buganda federalism is also part of traditional matters. Traditions have already layed it down that Buganda is an entity governing itself. What do I mean by "governing itself"?? Governing itself can be carried out through federalism or entirely Buganda as a nation alone. Since Buganda is part of a nation, Buganda is justified to be come a State within this nation of Uganda. Denying Buganda a federal status is by itself denying Buganda her traditions. This is where I understand the King's point -- free/return traditional powers back to the traditional administration of Buganda.
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