Uganda's problem fellas is not only poor leadership but the population as
well. I want you to read Nakawukyi (Mukyala musawo as publicly known)'s
posting, and tell me how it has any relationship with what we are discussing
here, and with reasoning this low Museveni finds a fertile ground to be a
life president. Do not blame the man.
But let us not loose track where we are, my concern is still the same and I
am still waiting for answers from those who have the know about this
federalism thing being pushed into the throats of  Ugandans. Has any of you
ever bothered to reflect on Buganda if Uganda goes Federal? Can Buganda
survive alone? If yes please I am asking for the numbers here and now. For
all bases I am considering, Buganda can not survive with out the rest of
Uganda. Any country which is federal state succeeds for its regions agree to
turn it into a federal state, but for Uganda it is only interest group in
Buganda,  pushing for it and any body telling you anything different is
lying.
And to the federalists once more please kindly tell us how we will survive
by our selves and in the middle of Uganda. What is it that we have in
Buganda that we are looking at to be a back borne of our survival and
development? Show us the numbers and the figures that you have which makes
you believe that we can survive as Buganda a federal state? For with out
showing those numbers to us, and you just push Uganda to be a federal state,
then federalists are nothing but enemies of Buganda, at strict. And that is
why you want to make Buganda fail. As you have a right to suggest this
change in our nation, surely we have a right to not only ask but demand the
facts you are basing on your argument.

Em

Toronto

 The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
            Groupe de communication Mulindwas
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Adam Dada" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 7:30 AM
Subject: RE: ugnet_: Mulindwa is not Mulindwa! - is this a joke?


>
> "Mulindwa"- It is obvious to any netter that you have got scores to settle
> with Buganda and Baganda. Yours is not the ordinary balanced criticism -
it
> is outright hatred. You invariably only have negative, and at that
distorted
> views about Buganda and Baganda. Clearly, that can't be right. The Baganda
> can distinguish between open hatred and constructive criticism, and this
> happens all the time here. But the might of Buganda/Baganda cannot be
> diminished by non-entities the likes of yourself. You are my fellow
> notherner, and it pains me that you have failed to own up to that fact -
> instead you have chosed to disguise yourself in a kiganda name "Mulindwa"
to
> sow hatred and abandon your kin and keith. We still want you back - there
is
> nothing wrong with being a northerner, these are your roots. We want you
> back openly.
> Adam
>
> >From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: ugnet_: Mulindwa is not Mulindwa! - is this a joke?
> >Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 04:44:58 -0500
> >
> >Aloysius
> >
> >And I will not add the Ugandans who personally know me that are not in
the
> >forum but I will mention those who are in these forums who personally
know
> >me  and I will take Chris Opoka, Kipenji, your self, even my good friend
> >Dr. Mulera, I can go to those in Europe as Lisa, and as many as possible
> >who we  have mate over and over and who know me for years and years.
> >
> >Then one can not help but wonder which Ugandan knows Rehema Zakoomu !!
> >
> >But the point here is not the genuineness of Mulindwa in Toronto, the
point
> >is that Uganda politics especially Buganda's politics can not be
critiqued.
> >Many times Buganda issues are answered by you are not a Muganda why do
you
> >ask? You are against Buganda. Many times this is due to the silliness of
> >the argument being made by those pretending to be pleading for Buganda.
We
> >prefer going with antidotal statements, statements which can never be
> >proven, look Zakoomu stated right here that Obote killed Uganda
federalism,
> >then a question must come, has Uganda ever been a federal state? And the
> >answer to that question is "You are a UPC and you support Obote. Well but
I
> >was arrested in Uganda's UPC 2 government, but that does not make me a
liar
> >to the fact that Uganda was a federal state.
> >
> >Federalist are against Buganda that must be categorically stated. They
are
> >cheap and can only function in non critical thinkers circles, for the
> >questions I am throwing out there, can not be answered. And it is idiots
> >like Simon Nume who we warned that Buganda should refuse the Kingdom from
> >NRM and they called us people who are anti Buganda. Today I can
comfortably
> >tell you that this King's courtship with a killer government, has gone a
> >long way to destroy this Kingdom, and we have only the future to ask what
> >will happen to this kingdom after NRM. And yes I was a single Muganda who
> >posted over and over in these forums how bad is NRM's government, until
> >when today it can be publicly stated by the Zakoomu's. Simon Nume a brain
> >is a great asset to waste.
> >
> >We live in very strange days indeed.
> >
> >Em
> >
> >  The Mulindwas Communication Group
> >"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> >             Groupe de communication Mulindwas
> >"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
> >
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: aokwong-okumu
> >   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >   Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 12:08 AM
> >   Subject: Re: [Ugandacom] Mulindwa is not Mulindwa! - is this a joke?
> >
> >
> >   HI,
> >      Mulindwa is MULINDWA, alive in the same skin I have known him in
> >since September 1989 when I came to Toronto and met him. He has grown day
> >and night, intellectually since the advent the world wide web. The
> >unfortunate thing about UGANDANS is that they think and believe that one
is
> >educated only and only if he went into a class or lecture hall. It is a
> >myopic belief, which those who have it and their classroom/lecture hall
> >education think they have a right and only them can
> >comment/analyse/prescribe to Uganda's political chaos. My brother
Mulindwa
> >gooo on, make their blood boil with your incisive questions and
commentry.
> >May Allah sharpen your mind and make it more potent!.
> >
> >   Aloysius.
> >     ----- Original Message -----
> >     From: Edward Mulindwa
> >     To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >     Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 9:30 PM
> >     Subject: [Ugandacom] Mulindwa is not Mulindwa! - is this a joke?
> >
> >
> >     Rehema Mukooza
> >
> >     Even if we were to post our identification on this forum/forums, it
> >does not take away the serious questions I and many Baganda out there are
> >asking. Whether Mulindwa is fake or not fake it dos not take away the
> >questions that face federalists today that they have refused to answer
all
> >along, for my asking them today does not mean it is the first time they
> >have showed up.
> >
> >     This is not about taking Mulindwa serious or not, this is to help
> >Ugandans especially Baganda who are having their entire future decided by
> >interest groups, under all sorts of names, in the name of working for
> >interests of Muganda. And the list is huge, so is Kiiza Besigye, so are
the
> >federalists, so is NRM, so is KY. and the list can go on and on. In the
> >process, Baganda as a people have never had a chance to make their
feelings
> >known, Buganda's politics is dictatorial right from Mengo. And my self as
a
> >muganda I am not worried about that for Mengo is a cultural institution,
it
> >can be as un elected as it wants.
> >
> >     But if you come to split up our nation, under the guise of
federalism,
> >surely that is political and we need a chance as Baganda to vote on it.
If
> >we can not vote on whether we prefer secession or federalism, then those
> >and many more questions must be made public and answered. Can Buganda
> >survive under federalism? If yes show us the numbers. That simple.
> >
> >     And I see no complication at all in that request, and I can add that
a
> >federalist like Simon Nume to refuse to answer those questions and he
> >decides to hide under do not take Mulindwa serious, is just one of the
> >unfortunate acts he has done in his posting/s. For you know what? History
> >has never looked with happy eyes to any one who lies to masses.
federalists
> >stand up and tell us how we as Baganda will survive with out the rest of
> >Uganda, and if you are saying that we will survive for the rest of Uganda
> >will continue feeding us, or investing for us, show us the written
> >agreements Mengo has done with those regions to that effect. Federalism
is
> >negotiation between regions. As Baganda we demand the federalists to show
> >us the results of those negotiations before you split up our nation.
> >
> >     And any thing less than those two is a clear indication of how you
> >decided to take Buganda out of Uganda with out the consent of Baganda ,
and
> >with out full disclosure to us, that makes you the enemies of Buganda.
And
> >I hope and pray that you are not.
> >
> >     Now that you posted your comments to sites I am not a member I hope
> >you will see it fit to post my response to the same as well.
> >
> >     Em
> >
> >      The Mulindwas Communication Group
> >     "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> >                 Groupe de communication Mulindwas
> >     "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
> >
> >       ----- Original Message -----
> >       From: Rehema Mukooza
> >       To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >       Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 8:11 PM
> >       Subject: ugnet_: Mulindwa is not Mulindwa! - is this a joke?
> >
> >
> >             Mulindwa:
> >
> >             You have two chances to tell us (me) the truth.  Are you
> >really Mulindwa??  Who is the person behind and using the name "Edward
> >Mulindwa"??  Are these accusations below true??
> >
> >             I guess they explain to me why "Mulindwa" was so quick to
> >question my name, and he asked "who is using the name Rehema Mukooza?".
He
> >asked Ssenyange.  Mulindwa must be used to using names that are not his.
> >Mulindwa is fake.  Otherwise, he needs to prove his real identity to me.
> >
> >             Zakoomu M.
> >
> >
==============================================================
> >
> >             From:  Simon Nume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >             Date:  Tue Mar 30, 2004  6:39 am
> >             Subject:  Re: [FedsNet] Buganda cannot survive in a federal
> >Uganda
> >
> >
> >
> >                         ADVERTISEMENT
> >
> >
> >             Prof Lugemwa
> >
> >             'Mulindwa Communications Group'  used to be made up of
'many'
> >different people with only one objective: to bash Buganda.
> >
> >             It is therefore 'typical' of Mulindwa to pose as a Muganda
who
> >cares for Buganda to write his usual ignorant drivel.  'Mulindwa' is so
> >fanatically  Buganda-phobic that nobody can take him seriously. He has
been
> >'evicted' on some lists for this tendency.
> >
> >             Netters who were on Ugandanet about 7/8 years ago can still
> >remember when 'Mulindwa'  was exposed in Toronto, and and  since then we
> >all know who and what he is; that he is not what he pretends to be.
> >
> >
> >             Nume
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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