[Ugnet] Ministers Tim Lwanga & Prof. Ssemakula disown Cabinet onKings

[Edward Mulindwa]

Why would you constitutionalise a cultural entity? Did Buganda have a kingdom for it was stated so in the constitution? If you loved constitutionalising it as Museveni did, so what is wrong with making guide lines about it?   Interesting how you failed even to follow my argument and you used the oldest chapter in Buganda book, "Let us blame Obote for it all" Just for the record, the plans Mutesa had for attacking Uganda in 1966, justified all that a responsible president did. And if Mutesa did that during Museveni's era you would have been amazed on what steps Museveni would have taken, forget Obote.   Em Toronto    The Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"             Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" ----- Original Message ----- From: Rehema Mukooza To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 3:23 AM Subject: [Ugandacom] Re: Ministers Tim Lwanga & Prof. Ssemakula disown Cabinet onKings Who gave Obote (the Waco in state house) the authority to take away Buganda's kingdom?  I now understand why Buganda scoffed at Obote/UPC for usurping the authority to ban the automatic existence of Buganda kingdom.    Basically what Mu7 and his parliament did was to constitutionally recognize the automatic existence of kingdoms.  Obote constitutionaly irrecognized this existence plus exiling the traditional leaders (Kabaka in particular).   ================================================================== Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ugandans can make me laugh at times. I told them that Museveni has and had no authority what so ever to give Buganda its kingdom, I asked them to refuse that offer from day one, for Buganda's kingdom is a cultural institution that was established way before Museveni was born, its existence is automatic. So in essence a critical thinker would argue that the kingdom's existence is entirely in Baganda's hands, we have a right to decide whether we want it or not, not some Waco in state house. Baganda laughed at me for "Ffe Museveni waffe atuwadde obwakabaka bwaffe" Then I asked, if Museveni is giving you that kingdom through good faith, why is he not returning the other kingdoms as Ankole let us say? Baganda as always refused to think that a-far.   Now the idiots are starting to think that Museveni can give them the kingdom back but can not end it. Is Matoke screwing the heads this much? Men oh men cut it down for this is becoming very funny indeed.   Em Toronto    The Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"             Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"   ==================================================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: Omar Kezimbira To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 10:35 PM Subject: [Ugnet] Ministers Tim Lwanga & Prof. Ssemakula disown Cabinet onKings 2 ministers disown Cabinet on kings By Gerald Walulya Sept 23, 2004 - Monitor PARLIAMENT � Two ministers have disowned a Cabinet proposal in the White Paper to give Parliament powers to depose traditional leaders in case they contravened the Constitution. NO NO NO: Tim Lwanga (L) and Ssemakula Kiwanuka at Parliament yesterday (Photo by John Nsimbe) Ethics Minister, Mr Tim Lwanga, and Luweero Triangle State Minister, Prof Ssemakula Kiwanuka, told The Monitor yesterday at Parliament they could not remember discussing the said proposal in any Cabinet meeting on the White Paper. �I don�t remember discussing that proposal. It was probably discussed when I was absent,� Ssemakula said. �There is no way I could have approved such a proposal. We have never discussed it and I have never heard about it. In fact it�s news to me. It was probably a typing error,� Lwanga, who is also the chairman of the Buganda Parliamentary caucus, said. Justice Minister, Ms Janat Mukwaya, told Parliament on Tuesday the government thought subjecting traditional leaders to Parliament was a necessary move to check them who, prior to this provision, were above the law. Lwanga said when he heard Mukwaya reading this recommendation from the White Paper he was surprised like many other MPs. �I was shocked to hear that. I will vote against it. It was probably entrenched in the White Paper by lawyers who made final touches,� Lwanga said. Information State Minister Dr James Nsaba Buturo dismissed claims by his colleagues as false. �It is not true that this issue was not discussed in Cabinet. The discussions on the White Paper have been protracted. At a time when we revisited some of these issues some members were absent. At no time was the Cabinet represented in full,� Buturo said. He criticised the two ministers for denying a position taken by Cabinet yet they are bound by its collective responsibility. He said the government worked under pressure to get the White Paper out, which resulted in producing a document, whose details some of the ministers had not appreciated. � 2004 The Monitor Publications Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! 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