Behaviour of women, in-laws or otherwise, around the world, are identical 
because we are  brainwashed by patriarchal values. We are brainwashed to 
believe that "boys will always be boys" so we turn to attack each other all the 
time. Little do we know that we are brainwashed and "lied to" by culture and 
tradition and religion so that "boys can be boys". Nature has given a woman a 
very powerful defense mechanism that is currently extremely supressed by 
culture and tradition so that boys can be boys. Period! All men know it.
 
 Every African woman need to ask herself one question: How would men treat 
women if we all decide to defy culture and tradition and religion? Now think! 
We follow culture. How do men treat us? 
 
This is hypothetical but think about it ladies.  How would men treat women if 
one morning all women around the world wake up and make these decisions:
 
1. We are women. We are not getting married because we don't need to get 
married in order to guarantee that the product of 9 months after concpetion is 
actually 50% our genetic make up. Our children can arrive in the back seat of 
our cars or under trees in the bushes and we still would not need a DNA test.
 
2. We are not getting married because we can cook our own food, wash our own 
clothes, clean our own houses and make our own beds every morning. On top of 
all that, we can go out and work to feed our own children. We do it everyday, 
around the world, as soon as our husbands, who are merciless and know that we 
are jobless, abandon us with ten children that we are brainwashed by culture to 
produce. 
 
3. We are not getting married because men only beat, kill, torture and abandone 
their wives. 
 
Does anyone still disagree with me that culture is there to make it easier for 
men to use and abuse women? A man who does not use and abuse women is a 
personal decision. Otherwise, women to use and abuse are produced everyday by 
culture and tradition. Ladies, have you wondered why men do not confront each 
other when it comes to their mistreatment of women? Have you ever seen a man 
verbally, or physically, attack another man because he has beaten his wife or 
abused a woman? Is it not clear that their silence is because they understand 
each other? Is it not true that a man would condemn another man's ruthlessness 
towards women to a woman but not to another man, unless of course he is a blood 
relative? 
 
Ladies, this is something to think about and very seriously.
 
Given my in-depth knowledge of the patriarchal social system, I don't support a 
continent where men have no family responsibilities because this would be a 
recipe for a catastrophic social disaster. My 90Minutes will not destroy the 
family culture; it will control men's lack of empathy because I believe that 
men mistreat women because there is no consequences for their actions. A man 
need to know that he will be severely punished by his wife if beats her. 
Ladies, you don't need muscles or resources in order to do this; you need 
knowledge because knowledge is power and I will teach you in 90Minutes, how to 
apply this knowledge. Its about time.
Anyo
 
 
 

"Dr. Valentine Ojo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The Yoruba say: a woman who has not yet married two husbands will never
appreciate the difference between men.

Val Ojo

-----Original Message-----
From: African Oracle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 9:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [abujaNig] Re: 90Minutes-Introduction

"Really, it is too tempting a topic, I want to continue on my Engineering
solutions and forget about these feminists whose contribution to Africa is
negative because they make a lot of money out of defaming Africa." -
Oghoerore

Now I can go to bed. I am laughing my head off here.

Greetings from the top of the mountain here where I intercept missile to
damage Africa. Not this time around. Africa has been so much destroyed by
people that do not know how we think or how we act and of late joined by
brainwashed Africans to destroy their heritage and the beauty of their
continent. No we must not allow them to turn this society into a monolithic
society where we all think the same and act like zombies men and women
without history.

AFRICAN ORACLE





  ----- Original Message -----
  From: oghoerore
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 2:53 AM
  Subject: Re: [abujaNig] Re: 90Minutes-Introduction



  In an Argentina holy city of Lujan, they have a saying "a las suegras hay
  que matarlas a los trece a�os" All mother in-laws must the killed at the
age
  of thirteen after giving birth to her daughter at the age of twelve.

  An Argentine friend sent me a mail some months ago with a story that have
  circulated all over Argentina, it follows thus:-

  A man stood by the road side and saw a funeral procession with two blak
  coffins one in front ant the other follows, behind was second coffin was a
  very long cue of only men and only one line. By the first coffin was a man
  crying and with a big german dog with him.
  The on-looker spoke to the man say:-
  Onlooker :- Who is in the first coffin ?
  Man::- My wife.
  Onlooker: what happened?
  Man:- This dog killed her.
  Onlooker:- Who is in the following coffin?
  Man:- My mother in-law.
  Onlooker:- What happen to her?
  Man:- She tried to defend her doughter but the dog also killed her.
  Onlooker:- Please, can you lend me the dog for a day?
  Man:- Well but you have to take your turn on the cue, because all these
men
  are waiting for their turn:"

  My people, I have never seen where in-laws especially mother in.laws are
  hated like in Souht America. There is no where on earth where in-laws are
  warshiped and respected like in Africa. Those women who are thinking that
  women are malthreated in Africa more than anywhere else are joking.
  Africa is a free society, just go marry to non-Africans and you will be
  free. Lunch a campaign for African women to amryy foreigner and see how
  successful you will be. I have African women here marrying whites and only
  one can say she is happy because children have not yet arrived and the man
  married her in Nigeria.
  The solution to mariatl problems lies within the tradition of the people.
  There is no where where women are maltreteated thamn in the Western workd
  that is why feminists are very strong there.
  South America is very integrated, white and blacks live together here, we
  know white men very well, these women who are judging Africans are very
  confused. You need to see how the white woman works in her house almost
like
  slave to see why feminism is strongest in the Western world. By bother
  in-law is married to an Italian woman, when he comes from work, he sits
down
  and the wive goes near, kneels down to be more conrtable, removes the
shoes
  and cleans the feet and gives him the silpers before going to bring him
some
  drinks.
  In 1985, I have an Italian girl friend born on Sofia, when we arrived at
  home, as I sat down on the chair, she squatted down to remove my shoes,
and
  cleaned my feet and kissed them sending an electric wave accross my body,
I
  told her that she would excite me and she said  that that was exactly what
  she wanted to do.
  African feminist have a long way to go. They do  not know white women, the
  are just quoting lesbians and abortionists. Let them go closed to married
  white women and they will know that the African man is the easiest to
  please.
  Really, it is too tempting a topic, I want to continue on my Engineering
  solutions and forget about these feminists whose contribution to Africa is
  negative because they make a lot of money out of defaming Africa.
  I hope someone has read my article on Lagosforum as regards my offer to
  solve the water problem, if you have contact for me please let me know.
  Oghoerore.
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "African Oracle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 9:34 PM
  Subject: Re: [abujaNig] Re: 90Minutes-Introduction


  >
  > You just introduced another angle into this debate Vivian and that is
  > bringing family into it. It is becoming bigger. Can we finish one before
  > we tackle the other. If you are in the West and comparing Orange with
  > Apple then something is definitely going to happen, the erosion of
  > matrimonial harmony in Africa visa.vis Nigeria. Yes, I am quiet aware of
  > the role of most in-laws in many homes in Nigeria. Some of them are pain
  > in the a---h. Who should be blamed? Looking at it critically, I can see
  > the lack of inability to separate the love and the enormous control our
  > parents have over us. I mean both men and women. We must not also forget
  > the influence of friends, religionm in any relationship. We must not
  > forget tradition and old knowledge. We must appreciate that in some
  > society women are commodities to sell not in that wise of selling but
when
  > it comes to how much is paid as bride price and all the requirements to
be
  > met by the groom before the marriage.
  >
  > This is not to say things are as evil as it is original portrayed by
Anyo.
  > We should look at the basic and ask questions why things are the way
they
  > are, instead of jumping into conclusion. It is neither here nor there,
  > both women and men are guilty.
  >
  > Dele Olawole
  >  ----- Original Message -----
  >  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >  Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 11:58 PM
  >  Subject: Re: [abujaNig] Re: 90Minutes-Introduction
  >
  >
  >
  >  As a preliminary matter, well done for putting your resources towards
  > this
  >  very important social issue.  Whether or not the men is this forum
agree,
  > it
  >  is an obvious fact that there is an inequality in the
  > perception/socialization
  >  of the "African boy vs. African girl", as well as the  "African man vs.
  >  African woman".  I have read the comparisons and or  references to such
  > females as
  >  our Nigerian Finance Minister.  Clearly she  is not the norm.
  >
  >  Having stated the above, I feel that part of the "knowledge" that we
must
  >  seek to impart is how to basically treat each other as human beings.
  > Some  of
  >  the most hateful acts perpetrated towards the African married woman, is
  > less
  >  by her husband, but more by other females in her life, such as the
mother
  > in
  >  law, or in Igbo land, the very powerful "Umu Ada", i.e., the female
  > relatives.
  >
  >  Thus, our joint effort must of necessity start and include  learning
how
  > to
  >  be basically decent, in our treatment of each other, boy or  girl, man
or
  > woman.
  >
  >  Vivian
  >
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