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Does anybody know about affects of "economic sanctions"? If you do and have
sometime to spare, please give a lesson to the African Guru, Mr. Know
Everything and Anything About Africa...
By the way, I do not support Museveni of Uganda. In my view, he is no
different from Mugabe. They are both cut from the same cloth. Their
rhetoric may be different but they are both driven by the lust for
POWER.
BUT... We have no interest in Museveni even if he decides to kill people at
the rate of 1000 per day. We are ONLY interested in Mugabe. The one who took
the land from our white brothers and sisters and give it back to the
indigenous blacks who are not capable of anything but shamba boys!
Regds,
../salim khatri
../mzizima, tanganyika.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of George B.N. Ayittey
Sent: 21 April 2005 09:59
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Mwananchi] Re: Fwd: Mugabe to add two years to term
Vamadzore,
Well, Nyatsimba can listen to you with your head stuck in the sand: See
no evil, hear no evil about Mugabe.
Zimbabwe's economy has collapsed. There are no jobs. Unemployment hovers
at 70 percent. Inflation rages at more than 100 percent. Nearly half the
population of 11 million face starvation. The currency (Zim dollar) is
WORTHLESS. Over 4 million Zimbabweans have voted with their feet -- out
of the country.
According to "Uncle Bob," all this is the fault of British colonialists,
who are bent on "recolonizing" Zimbabwe. And you, Vamadzore, cheer
Mugabe on wildly. Anyone who disagrees with you is demonized as someone:
"Whose foundation is on the payroll to ensure the destabilization of
Zimbabwe because Europeans sit with him on conferences to plan the
destabilization of Zimbabwe."
This kind of puerile demagoguery will ruin Zimbabwe because, at the very
minimum, you ought to realize that the agents of what you call
"destabilization" but which I call "CHANGE" come from within: Somalia,
Burundi, Zaire, Liberia, Sierra Leone, Ivory Coast and others.
Keep your head stuck in the sand and what will hit your behind will not
come from Europeans but from Zimbabweans, FED UP with 20 years of
incompetent, corrupt and tyrannical rule.
By the way, I do not support Museveni of Uganda. In my view, he is no
different from Mugabe. They are both cut from the same cloth. Their
rhetoric may be different but they are both driven by the lust for
POWER.
George Ayittey,
Washington, DC
vamadzore wrote:
>
> Nyatsimba,
>
> Don't waste your time on this man. You cannot expect to seriously
> debate Zimbabwean issues and get an honest opinion from someone whose
> foundation is on the payroll to ensure the destabilization of
> Zimbabwe. Of all the problem spots in Africa, Zimbabwe only becomes
> important to him because those Europeans who sit with him on
> conferences to plan the destabilization of Zimbabwe are the ones who
> are after Mugabe. If the issue was truely about democracy then this
> learned African expert would also tell his sponsors that Uganda's
> opposition candidates (as just one example) are hiding in the USA
> from Museveni and that Museveni has openly declared that he will not
> tolerate any opposition as long as he is in power in Uganda. He would
> also tell them not to reward such a person with loans, weapons and
> cancelling of debt. He would tell them their guy Museveni was
> sponsoring the Congo war, which has killed more than three million
> Africans in less than five years. Instead, to pump up his
> conservative base, this Zimbabwean expert talks of communism in
> Zimbabwe and claims to know how much is in Mugabe's bank and exactly
> where Mugabe keeps his money.
>
> Don't waste your time debating him on this issue. He has a vested
> interest in seeing Zimbabwe blow up.
>
> VaMadzore
>
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nyatsimba Mutota
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The original story that the Post quoted from included the part that
> said he was joking not smiling!
> >
> > "George B.N. Ayittey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Nyatsimba,
> >
> > How do you square what you have written with the fact that Mugabe
> has
> > RECANTED his own pledge to retire in 2008?
> >
> > Asked at a news conference after the election when he planned to
> retire,
> > Mugabe said with a smile, "Retire? When I'm a century old" (The
> > Washington Post, April 2, 2005; p.A15).
> >
> > Are you being fooled or I am?
> >
> > George Ayittey,
> > Washington, DC
> >
> > It has been common knowledge in Zimbabwe, what the strategy was and
> what
> > the implications of these
> > parliamentary elections would be. ZIMBABWEANS knew going into this.
> But
> > you were busy posting
> > articles on military coups, posting pictures, and some other cooked
> up
> > stories.
> >
> > In exactly 3 years time, we are supposed to have Presidential
> elections.
> > Mugabe wants to do away
> > with holding seperate parliamentary and presidential elections,
> which
> > has its pros and cons whichever way
> > you look at it, but its not a big deal! Either way you look at it,
> such
> > a change is going to either cut or add to
> > someone's term. Mugabe has already indicated he will not run after
> this,
> > therefore what has been widely
> > speculated in Zimbabwe, is that he will use the 2/3 majority to
> change
> > the constitution. Why? Not running
> > would have meant, he had to step down now or within the next 2
> years to
> > allow time for whoever to
> > campaign on their own. However, our present constitution calls for
> > automatic elections within 3 months of
> > a presient stepping down, etc. That will not give his party's
> candidate
> > time to be on thier own. Naturally, he
> > is making sure, his party is in power for longer.
> >
> > The fact that time has to be added or cut when the constitution is a
> > secondary effect, not a primary reason
> > why this is being done. What the demonizing media picks up on, is he
> > wants to add 2 more years to his
> > term. If indeed they change the constitution, the idea is for him to
> > retire now, and have his successor run
> > the country without an automatic presidential election. In other
> words,
> > what it means(if it happens) is
> > that Mugabe wants to retire early!
> >
> >
> > "George B.N. Ayittey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Where are Nyatsimba and Vamadzore on this?
> >
> > When I wrote on this forum BEFORE the elections that Mugabe is
> BENT
> > on
> > rigging the elections in order to engineer a 2/3rds majority in
> > Parliament so that he can amend the Constitution and extend his
> > stay in
> > office, those two individuals denounced me as a gadfly. I was
> not
> > even a
> > Zimbabwean, one even said.
> >
> > Now, Mugabe has fooled them all as Mugabe's real motive has
> been
> > revealed: POLITICAL GREED. He uses the land issue to maintain
> his
> > grip
> > on power. And as long as some Zimbabweans are fooled by this,
> he
> > will
> > continue to use it as a political ploy.
> >
> > Hopefully, Nyatsimba and Vamadzore will wake up one of these
> days.
> >
> > George Ayittey,
> > Washington, DC
> >
> >
> >
> > paanderson2003 wrote:
> > >
> > > President Mugabe to add two years to term
> > >
> > > author/source:Independent (UK)
> > > published:Sun 17-Apr-2005
> > > posted on this site:Sun 17-Apr-2005
> > >
> > > Article Type : News Zim.
> > >
> > > Consolidating power
> > >
> > > By Christopher Thompson in Harare
> > >
> > > President Mugabe is trying to add two more years to his time
> in
> > > office, according to official sources. Senior members of
> Mugabe's
> > > ruling Zanu PF party are contemplating extending the
> President's
> > term
> > > by introducing a constitutional amendment to hold
> presidential
> > and
> > > parliamentary elections together in 2010. The elections on 31
> > March
> > > handed Mugabe 78 seats - enough to change the constitution.
> The
> > > opposition Movement for Democratic Change has denounced the
> > elections
> > > and launched a legal challenge over alleged vote-rigging.
> > Officials
> > > are quietly considering the issue, which would form part of
> Zanu
> > PF's
> > > legislative agenda in the new parliament. Given Mr Mugabe's
> > majority,
> > > t! he initiative would be easy to push through, meaning the
> > > presidential poll currently scheduled for 2008 would be
> moved to
> > > 2010. Mr Mugabe has made no secret of his wish to make
> > constitutional
> > > changes in the wake of his controversial win and in
> particular
> > his
> > > desire to run the two main elections concurrently. He has
> also
> > > publicly called for a reintroduction of a senate, which
> critics
> > argue
> > > would be used as a dumping ground for the president's
> cronies.
> > The
> > > idea was rejected in a referendum in 2000. The Zanu PF
> secretary
> > for
> > > administration, Didymus Mutasa, said that pursuing the
> > legislative
> > > agenda would be facilitated by extending Mr Mugabe's
> term: "The
> > > easiest way of doing it would be to delay the presidential
> > election
> > > to 2010. If we hold the parliamentary election early in 2008,
> > that
> > > would be costly." Though Zimbabwe's political calendar has
> long
> > been
> > > acknowledged as overcrowded,critics say the real reason Mr
> Mugabe
> > > wants to merge elections is to consolidate executive power.
> > >
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