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Okuto
Finns dar en man som heter Kony som gor krig i
norra Uganda och for 19 ar mena du att Uganda Government kan inte ta hand om
honom?
Jag fraga en rakt fraga och behover jag en rakt
svara.
Em
Toronto
The Mulindwas
Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in
anarchy"
Groupe de communication Mulindwas
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans
l'anarchie"
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 5:50 AM
Subject: [Ugandacom] Re: [Ugnet] There
are other sufferers in the North
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Hall� d�r, l�tt som en pl�tt ( simple)!!
The one is LRA the other is UPDF.
The one is Ugandan national army the other is a rebel terror.
The one has mandate and jurisdiction to operate within Uganda in
protection of national interest the other is a resistance
army.
"...How then can you conclusively prove to us that the
Acholi in the camps are running from "LRA Rebels" and not From
Soldiers possing as "rebels"?
I do not. All Iam saying is "call a spade, a spade" not the big
spoon!!
These days of proving,since the national army is the one that
has the mandate and jurisdiction to operate within the territory
of Uganda in protection of our citizen, the dice for proving is
thrown to you Matek: prove that they are UPDF soldiers posing as
"rebels".
Would you?
Thanks in advance
Noc'la gau |
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--- On Fri 05/20,
Matek Opoko < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
From:
Matek Opoko [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
[email protected]
Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 02:32:04
-0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [Ugnet] There are other sufferers
in the North
Okutu:
Let me ask you a simply question:
please eductate some of us.
What is the diffrence between the
so called "Kony's LRA rebel"and Museveni's UPDF soldier? How can you
look at two gunmen, who are exactly identical and conclude that one
is a "rebel" and one is a genunine "government Soldier"?
How
then can you conclusively prove to us that the Acholi in the camps
are running from "LRA Rebels" and not From Soldiers possing as
"rebels"?
Matek
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Ochan, at which of the camps do the Acoli fleeing
from LRA mutilation take solace?
The kind of Acoli that I know are at the camps
because of the LRA.
The kind of Acoli that I know became concubines,
sex-slaves and forced wives to LRA officers including
Kony himself.
The daughter of one of my best friends, was
abducted and became the bosses concubine at
THIRTEEN!!!
Another dear friend was a Headmistress. Was
abducted and infested with HIV!!
And the LRA propagandist, who is also married at
Pece knows these. He also figured in the so called LRA
press release which pledged for a continuation of the
strugggle: "the struggle continues".
Should Ugandan say let Acoli leaders, who have more
often than not uttered expressions like "governmente
rac; Kony bene rach" , prove that they do not love
KONY / THE LRA?!?!
You Ochan forwarded the article "LRA press relese"
which was full of distortion and which appended with
"the struggle continues". After opinion altenation,
some one else came up with what he called "to clear
the air" about the serious concern some of us had
about that garbage "press release".
Juging from your argument below, you do not believe
that Acoli who are running from LRA atrocity are not
in the Camps. Top that with the fact that you had both
the write and read rights to
the LRA press release (considering that you were able
to alter some details from the copy to Ugandanet).
Your position appears (rightfully so) obscure and
controversial (EVEN HERE, YOU ARE DISTORTING MATTER OF
FACT ABOUT ACOLI IN THE CAMP!!!).
Should we request you to prove that you are not a
LRA sympathiser of that you should prove that you do
not like LRA?!?
When you blow your facts please acknowlege that
there are victims of LRA atrocities around, whose
feelings you might be hurting!!!
Best regards
noc'la gaoumoy |
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--- On Wed
05/18, Ochan Otim < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
From:
Ochan Otim [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
[email protected]
Date: Wed, 18 May 2005
10:40:52 -0700
Subject: Re: [Ugnet] There are
other sufferers in the North
In response to http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg19613.html
There are two types of camps in
Uganda.
1. Internally Displaced People's Camps
(IDP), the ones into which people ran voluntarily
(and rightfully so) for security. These are found in
Lango, Teso, and elsewhere. And then there is the
2. Forced Displacement Camps (FDC). These
camps are found exclusively in Acholi. These are camps
into which people were FORCED to live to free up the
fertile and vast Acoliland for "investors". There are
tons of evidence to back these facts: the forceful remo
val of citizens and the motive behind it. Acoli people
were safer from LRA and UPDF among their tall grasses
before they were herded into camps.
Okwera's
challenge to "Let the Government prove it does not
hate the Acholis" is therefore very legit. I also
say, let the government of Uganda prove it does not hate
the Acoli people.
Ochan
At
01:33 AM 5/18/2005, you wrote:
- Can Okwera tell us
today that Langis are not in camps? It is quite
wrong for us to get a problem in our nation and
we tribalise it.
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There are
other sufferers in the north
With due
respect I found Yoni Okwera-Olok's letter: "Let the
Government prove it does not hate the Acholis" very
bothering and a true example of the problem we have in
our nation today.
Mr Okwera must remember to
always be a Ugandan before he thinks as an Acholi. Many
of his facts are not true and we need to throw away
passion on this issue so that we can see through the web
of Okwera's lies. Only then can we try to plant
nationalism in our nation.
Okwera must remember
that Uganda has gone through very hard times during the
Movement. Ombaci happened in West Nile, Mukura was in
eastern Uganda, Kibwetere was in western Uganda. Yes,
northern Uganda has had the largest suffering under the
Movement. But northern Uganda is not only a land of
Acholis, so let us not play a tribal game here. The last
time I checked, Uganda had a people called Langis. Can
Okwera tell us to day that Langis are not in camps? It
is quite wrong for us to get a problem in our nation and
we tribalise it.
The example Okwera-Olok uses of
Obote and Buganda is equally false, for Buganda has
never enjoyed power in Uganda than under both Obote's
governments. Yes, Okwera has a right to hate Obote, but
he must as well recognise that the most powerful
ministers in Obote's government were actually Baganda.
Okwera-Olok must remember the names of powerful Baganda
like Eriya Babumba, Apolo Kironde, Luyimbazi Zaake,
Kalule Ssetaala, Keefa Ssempangi, Sam Mugwiisa, Bidandi
Ssali. Let us talk about Attorney Generals like G. L.
Binayiisa or even Nkambo Mugerwa. Governors Bank of
Uganda like Mubiru, Kikonyogo, Leo Kibirango. All these
were very powerful Baganda during Obote's government.
Let us talk about the 1966 problem with Mengo.
Sir Edward Muteesa left Uganda for Unite Kingdom. Obote
as the Uganda president instructed Bank of Uganda to
send money to Sir Edward for upkeep. T hat is why Sir
Edward did not end up on a welfare line in United
Kingdom. Baganda did not organise any means for
maintenance of their exiled King. What is interesting is
that this money continued flowing into the same account
through Amin's era, up to today, because the
instructions are still on Uganda papers. When Obote came
back to Uganda, as a President and a minister of
finance, he did not cancel those instructions.
We must be very careful when we make false
public statements to push our agenda. Okwera-Olok's
claim that Obote hates Baganda is totally unfair. If he
did hate them, Miria Obote should have been a Langi or
an Acholi. This is the mother of Obote's
children.
By all means we have a problem in
northern Uganda and no one will debate that. But this
problem is the same with Langis as well.
Edward
Mulindwa
Toronto
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