Re: [Ugnet] Join security forces, Katikkiro tells Baganda

Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:09:16 -0700

Mwami Nume
 
So are you saying that the Katikiro knows that Baganda are already trained? Then if so why doesn't he just ask Museveni to enlist them? Secondly Simon you know I will ask you a straight question, surely if you were Uganda government, and a cultural leader went to the British embassy to ask for weapons to over throw an elected government, what would have you done? By the way weapons were as well found in Lubiri.
 
To tell you the truth as a Muganda, I become very frustrated when we fail to understand a very clear line between Uganda political and cultural lines. For this has been our failure from Mutesa's going to exile to this King we have who has surely lost Buluri, and we will continue to loose these sectors of Buganda, for there are many of us who believe that Buganda is a great entity as a culture, and we need our king as a cultural leader. It is very sad that many of you do not see him that way but as a head of state.
 
Very sad indeed.
 
Em
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----- Original Message -----
From: Simon Nume
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Join security forces, Katikkiro tells Baganda

Mulindwa
 
The Katikkiro is NOT asking for training, he is really pointing out the Baganda exclusion in the
CURRENT security organs which are dominated by people from a certain section of the country (as per norm under different dictatorships.)
 
He is also reminding the Baganda, how previous sectarian armies attempted to wipe out Buganda.
 
Surely as a "Muganda" you should have susssed out his message.
 
Nume
 
Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Matek
 
But we need to take the call of Mulwanyamuli to Baganda very seriously and I hope Musamize can clarify this one. For example doesn't this Katikiro know that almost all Baganda are militarily trained through Chakamuchaka? What kind of training is he asking for?
 
May be what he needs is to ask Museveni to enlist all Baganda in UPDf ranks and file now that they are already trained? For he is smart enough to see how Chakamuchaka has benefited Buganda may be? I just do not get this one to be serious.
 
Em
Toronto
 
 The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Join security forces, Katikkiro tells Baganda

EM:
The fact that Kabaka Mutesa tried everything possible to acquire weapons from the British Imperalist ..which weapons were to be used to overthrow the legitimately constituted UPC Government, is never mentioned by UPC haters. Instead they dwell on the fact that UPC deployed troops to attack Bulange... so what go have a cow.Some of us really do not give a dash.... Museveni wants to fight...he is MOST definately going to fight and fight a very intensive battle all throughout the country. Member of the International Community  will most definately blame Yoweri Museveni Kaguta for any calamity which will befall Uganda. Indeed If Museveni thinks he can protect every corner of Uganda with his UPDF is is yet to lear n a lesson..  Tutsis will Cry!!! I swear this to your!!
 
Matek 

Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
No I actually think it is stupidiness really. This crap Katikiro who is not
even elected has lost Buluri under his watch and under this kingdom. That we
can not fail to recognize. Secondly if you were smart you would remember
that Buganda is the only Kingdom that side that was built by fighting and
killing its neighbors.
Let us as well remember that Uganda Armed Forces went to attack Mengo for
Muteesa had gone to the British embassy in Kampala and asked for weapons to
over throw an elected government.

Do we really want to arm a cultural entity in Uganda? Where do we start and
stop? Does Mulwanyamuli as well want Baluri to register in UPDF?

Ugandans, where is critical thinking when one needs one?

Em
Toronto
The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
Groupe de communication Mulindwas
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"

----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Join security forces, Katikkiro tells Baganda


May be it is because the UGANDAN TROOPS have over time (1962 - 2005) failed
to
protect the nationalities in Uganda. That the NATIONALITIES are resorting to
protecting themselves, CRITICALLY, I don't see any STUPIDITY in
NATIONALITIES
in Uganda trying to protect themselves.

Quoting Matek Opoko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> EM:
> There is a notion out there held by some of our fellow citizens commonly
> referred to as "The mengo clique" which seems to think that Buganda
> exist apart from Uganda. ..and therefore, "Buganda troops" within the
> UPDF will mostly defend Buganda Interest. Such notion is of course
> stupidity of the Highest o rder. The fact is that Buganda or Iteso, or
> Acholi, lugwara,Madi, Busoga,Karamojong Uganda Troops MUST PROTECT THE
> INTEREST OF ALL THE PEOPLE OF UGANDA....and not some entity called
> Buganda!!
>
> Matek
>
> Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> Matek
>
> Why do we need a national army to protect a cultural institution, and
> from what?
>
> Em
> Toronto
> The Mulindwas Communication Group
> "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> Groupe de communication Mulindwas
> "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Matek Opoko
> To: [email protected] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 2:07 AM
> Subject: [Ugnet] Join security forces, Katikkiro tells Baganda
>
>
> Join security forces, Katikkiro tells Baganda Michael J SsaliMASAKA
> The Katikkiro of Buganda, Joseph Mulwanyammuli Ssemwogerere, has urged
> the Baganda to encourage their children to join security forces to
> protect the kingdom's cultural institutions and traditions.
> Ssemwogerere was speaking at the new Kkingo Sub-county headquarters in
> Masaka district on Sunday.
>
> He said under the regimes of Apollo Milton Obote and Idi Amin Dada, the
> security forces were dominated by members of ethnic groups that had no
> respect for the cultures of other tribes.
> He said this had caused tension and chaos in the country.
>
> "It is not good for you parents to discourage your children from joining
> the security forces like Police, Army and Prisons because other tribes
> dominated these institutions and took advantage of their large numbers
> in the security forces and attempted to wipe out our kingdom, our
> traditions and our culture," he said.
> The Kat ikkiro, who also comes from Kkingo, had been invited by the
> sub-county chairman, Mr Ben Bukenya, and his council to thank him for
> his many achievements for Buganda and Uganda.
>
> Turning to the deal between the central government and Mengo on a
> federal status for Buganda and other regions that want it, the Katikkiro
> said, "We are satisfied with where we have reached so far."
>
> The federo deal was arrived at after protracted negotiations between
> Mengo and the central government.
> Under the agreement sealed on February 1, the Katikkiro will be elected
> as opposed to being appointed by the Kabaka.
>
> There will be one Lukiiko dominated by directly elected members, with a
> few cultural representatives.
> The Lukiiko would make laws consistent with the Constitution. Buganda's
> 9,000 square miles were put under the management of district tender
> boards.
> The deal gives the regional government authority to manage some
> functions of local government like construction of feeder roads.
>
> The regional government can also take over and manage community health
> centres that do not belong to the central government. It is allowed to
> charge some user fees for the use of the facility.
>
> The deal also allows the President to take over the administration of
> any region if he deems that the regional government has violated any
> laws of the country.
>
> Ssemwogerere said it was unfair for some people to think that Buganda
> would get all its demands at once and asked everyone to be patient and
> even thankful for what has been achieved so far.
>
> The Katikkiro added that during his many trips to other parts of Uganda
> he had discovered that even those communities were making similar
> demands for a federal status.
>
> Bukenya than ked the Katikkiro for bringing honour to Kkingo sub-county.
> "You have done us proud, and we thank you very much," he said.
>
> Bukoto South MP in Masaka, Dr Herbert Lwanga, attended the function.
> Also in attendance was Mr MathiasNsubuga, the personal assistant to the
> Kampala mayor.
>
> He has declared his interest in contesting for the Bukoto South
> parliamentary seat.
> Lwanga and Nsubuga bought Buganda Certificates worth Shs100,000 each to
> bolster the kingdom's finances.
>
>
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