[Ugnet] JOYCE NANSIKOMBI YOU ARE VEERY WRONG

Sat, 27 Aug 2005 05:13:09 -0700

Nansikombi
 
Yet I will waste my time and respond to your posting, normally I just move on but such Buganda crap can never be allowed to go un responded to.
First in all years I make comments on Uganda issues or on any other matter I do so based on my gut feeling not on marks being given by some wacko out there, that is why I have to be sure I will back it up and personally. Having cleared that one out, let us go to the facts that many of you are missing as usual.
1) My posting was addressing a level of journalism in Uganda, and not the language Museveni or any other leader uses in Uganda. I have attacked the level of journalism, and you as Nansikombi can address the language Museveni or any other leader uses. That is your progtive.
2) I know Museveni does all those things, then the question becomes very simple, should our journalists behave that way? Do we as Ugandans want journalists who write based on how good or bad our leaders are or based on the training they get from the schools? Mwenda is a trained journalist and I have every reason to hold him on higher standard, Museveni is a political leader who came to power through a gun, did you expect him to stay in power using a bullet and having a mannerism in speech? I bet as a Muganda you did.
3) If we are using leaders to set standards of our journalists, as you suggest, what will happen if we get a president from Karamoja who walks naked? Are all Ugandans going to be justified walking naked on Kampala road?
4) Museveni the man you are decrying here, was built mainly by Monitor. When Andrew Mwenda came to Toronto in a conference many years ago, those who were courageous, warned him about his paper and him self praising Museveni's democracy, and warned him that the man his paper is praising is a disaster to our nation. Mwenda called those people stupid who feed on enemies of Uganda and who should go home and witness the freedom in their nation. Well why is Mwenda pissed today?
 
Nansikombi there are those of us who fully understand your anger, which is built on plain stupidity. You praise leaders as they come to power, in the end you hate them and you want us as Ugandans to follow you all the way you wobble. Obote comes to Bushenyi and you sing Ffe twagala Obote nga sente, he leaves power you go to Kyaabazaala and cut off the legs of Biridadi Muwonge when they are alive. When Amin comes to power you call him Ssaalongo waffe, when he lives power you go to Bombo and loot the entire firkin place. You are a true classic Muganda who told us Ffe kasita Twebaka when Museveni came to power, and as soon as he leaves power you will drive to Mbarara to loot it.
 
Nansikombi we look at leaders objectively and we mention when they are wrong, that is why I have stood firm in saying Museveni is wrong when you were preaching him as the best leader of Uganda. So do not firkin change today to teach me on how to firkin criticize him. This is about Mwenda and Uganda's journalism and leave it where it is.
 
And that is why I was disappointed when trained journalists like Vukoni called my writing an ego. For I thought they would look through the hate against Museveni and look at other entities , independent entities like journalism and criticize or praise them. And he proved me wrong.
 
We all must praise a leader and we all must attack him, Uganda is a union carbide.
 
Unbelievable how we were forced to be born in very strange days.
 
Em
Toronto
 The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
            Groupe de communication Mulindwas
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 9:06 AM
Subject: RE: [Ugnet] Exercise your freedom within the lawEdward MulindwaTORONTO

I read Mulindwas' article with some unbeleavable.   I can not  imagine how a person like him could even dream writing such trash.  Mr Mulindwa can you please tell Museven to behave like
a human person and leave killing, stealing Ugandan's money, persisting on our Uganda Presedent's Chair?
Could'n you think why some of the reporters and Ugandans as whole have resulted in this
situation?  How long has it been ???? 20 years of Uganda Gorrila war and continuas surpression???
the Killings. OH My Good Lord?  Have mercy on Ugandans..
Mr Mulindwa I give you a  "O: out of 100.
Disappointed Ugandan.
JN

Okuto del Coli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
VERY CORRECT, MULINDWA !
And thanks for not swaying one tiny bit. Right shall be right!

The kind of Ugandan who will bring peace and unity are those who recognise that peace and unity are expressions of righteousness.., expressions of law and order!! The same for every one. It is bogus to preach one ideal when you yourself is not exemplary.

The rules of the game applies!





--- On Tue 08/16, Edward Mulindwa < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:

From: Edward Mulindwa [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 04:48:39 -0400
Subject: [Ugnet] Exercise your freedom within the lawEdward Mulindwa TORONTO

Vukoni

Well you are a journalist tell me if you would make an interview using such
a language. We all oppose not only the movement but Museveni's leadership,
but that does not mean that we have to go that low in ethics. And Yaobanga
can call it trash but you see that is the very danger many Baganda have
today, that every thing bad said on Obote or any trash thrown to him is
justified. But every thing good must be stated on Museveni.

That is just being plain stupid. I am just too sick and tired of Ugandans
who in the process of opposing a leadership decide to go persona l. Mwenda
went personal and that killed the chance we all had of getting a trained
journalist asking serious questions. And I can bet if this fracas happened
10 years ago before the creation of FDC, Dr Munini Mulera's editorial would
have been different as well.

I wrote it and I will back it up, take it or leave it

Em
Toronto

The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
Groupe de communication Mulindwas
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"

----- Original Message -----
From: "Vukoni Lupa-Lasaga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 1:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Fw: [Ugandacom] Exercise your freedom within the
lawEdward Mulindwa TORONTO


Did you write that EM? Or was it your alter ego?

Edward Mulindwa wrote:

> *From:* gook makanga
> *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.com
> *Sent:* Monday, August 15, 2005 4:37 PM
> *Subject:* [Ugandacom] Exercise your freedom within the law Edward
> Mulindwa TORONTO
>
> Exercise your freedom within the law Edward Mulindwa TORONTO
>
> In reading Dr Muniini Mulera's article in your Monday's opinion pages, I
> found it hard to pass with out a comment.
>
> My friend Dr Mulera makes some very good points and I completely agree
> with him that there are questions which have to be both asked and
> answered. I have a problem with the closure of KFM 93.3, the Monitor’s FM
> radio station, but not being in Uganda I do not know if this station was
> warned by the agency on what it should air on the public waves or not,
> makes it difficult for me to make a call on it either way.
>
> But here is where I have a problem with Mulera's article; he is failing to
> make one very important point, that freedom of speech is not an open ended
> status. We all use freedom of speech but we respect the law.
>
> I read the transcript of Andrew Mwenda and some of the statements he made
> in that program, Dr Mulera can not make them in Canada waves if he wants
> to have a license.
> I have to be very careful here for Andrew Mwenda's case is soon going to
> be before a judge so I cannot debate any of his statements.
>
> But I would ask Dr Muniini Mulera to go back and read the transcript of
> that program, and wonder if he had a radio station in Canada if he would
> make such statements on a prime Minister of Canada and see if the CRTC
> would not yank his license.
>
> Freedom of speech does not empower us to disrespect our leaders, and I
> happen to be one of the people who have opposed the Movement for a very
> long time, but like it or not Yoweri Museven i is a president of Uganda
> today, and we owe him that respect.
>
> *Danger*
> The danger here is that there is no way you can disrespect Yoweri Museveni
> with out disrespecting the position he holds.
> And I wish Dr Muniini Mulera used this chance to point out to his audience
> that respect of the presidency is paramount in all things we discuss in or
> on our nation.
>
> The questions Dr Mulera asked are understandable and they need to be asked
> and answered as I stated before, but why am I able to understand them in
> Mulera's article and I can not understand them in Andrew Mwenda's
> transcript?
> Yet Dr Mulera is not a journalist and Andrew Mwenda is. That is the main
> problem in this whole circle.
>
> Lastly the movement has brought very many changes to our nation. we used
> to have only land lines today we are in cell phone times.
> The Internet was introduced including reading Daily Monitor on line, but I
> have looked very carefully on how we use these new facilities.
>
> The other day a Florence Namutebi from Sweden wrote a letter in Daily
> Monitor complaining about the abuse of Uganda chat rooms. When you read
> Andrew Mwenda's transcript, one can not help but wonder if we were ready
> to move from a state one controlled radio station.
>
> We need to build freedom of speech in our nation, but let us not forget
> the growth of journalism that must follow it.
>
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