Ndugu Msia,

Umekaribishwa humu ukumbi huu. Maoni yako ni muhimu hata wanaukumbi wengine hawataki kusema au kusikia haki ya kihistoria.

Don't worry. I don't think anything worse than harsh words will ever be exchanged on Ugandanet.

Vukoni

Msia Kibona Clark wrote:

Vukoni,

I must speak up for the Tanzanians. We're already in trouble with the Kenyans. 
We don't also need problems with the Ugandans.

What you say about Obote is true. That was a mistake on our part.  But don't 
forget my brother, we also helped you get rid of Idi Amin.

As for Museveni, what you say is also true. Many Tanzanians (& Kenyans) feel 
Museveni wants to be the King of East Africa. Is it not true?? And I have it from a 
good source that the EAC is how Museveni is planning to acheive his status. I can't 
comment on how Kikwete feels but Tanzanians were not happy when Museveni changed 
the constitution. These are all sources of our distrust.

Please don't exile me from the list. I must represent the TZ view from time to time.
Msia

Date:  Sep 23, 2006 2:16 am
To: The First Virtual Network for friends of Uganda From: Vukoni Lupa-Lasaga Subj: Re: [Ugnet] Fwd: Tanzanian President Visits Los Angeles

MK,

You seem to remember only those parts of our history that speak to your sense of loss. If it wasn't for Nyerere and TPDF, Obote and UPC would have found it much harder if at all to return to power in 1980. It was an open secret then who the annointed presidential candidate was. If you don't trust the Waswahili as you put it, we must ask ourselves what changed between 1980 and 1985 for Dr. Obote to fall from grace as a favored personal friend of Nyerere onto the plebeian floor as an expendable political potato. And I have it from an impeccable source that Jakaya Kikwete doesn't like your nemesis. This source, who had several conversations on the Great Lakes crisis with Kikwete while he was still minister of foreign affairs told me that Kikwete was quite disparaging of Museveni. For example, Kikwete reportedly thinks Museveni is a loudmouth and a megalomaniac who exaggerates his role in history. For example, in African liberation struggles.

Of course of course, I don't want to cause a diplomatic row between Uganda and Tanzania, so I will say no more.

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