Carl S.

If Kagame does not want to take the stand in France let him take the stand in 
Arusha. Is Tanzania as well an enemy? I do not think so. This call should have 
been made already by the Rwandese them selves before the French Judge stood up. 
And if we need to know what happened to the black box, who is in a better 
position to ask for it than Paul Kagame? You see there is no way Kagame can sit 
under a stone on this one for he has a good information he has to make public. 
Secondly when we are discussing the death of such innocent number of people 
there is nothing that can be funny. Lastly I find it hard for Rwanda to detest 
The French who were in France at a time of genocide yet the same Rwandese 
praise Gen Delaire who instructed the air craft to land using only the area 
controlled by Kagame's army. How much does Delaire know that is not public ? 
And lastly why is he walking free in Rwanda today?

And you wallow in he street men and women and you arrest them from East and 
West when men who are responsible for the real genocide sit among Rwandese 
smiling their you know what. That is being cynical. Let every person who was 
running this freight train stand and tell what he knows or the entire circus in 
Arusha is a joke.

Em
Toronto

 The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Sombrero Carl 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 10:48 PM
  Subject: Re: [rwandanet] Fw: A FRENCH JUDGE NEEDS PAUL KAGAME AT A STAND



  Hi Edward M,

  I agree with you on the the fact that President Kagame of Rwanda shouldn't 
have any problem of standing for a trial(as no one is above the law)!
  But when it comes from an Enemy country(if we can put it that way),because of 
the support,training and supply of the former regime to plan and do a 
Genocide,then it becomes interesting and funny at the same time, 'cause first 
of all they are proof about France connection to the Rwandan Genocide, 
secondly, why did that jujde wait that long as they were speculations about his 
repport for more than two years? and finally, what happened to the Black Box of 
the plane as it was taken by them???
  Otherwise if  whatever he is saying is truth, then let's face it as it is!

  Regards,
  Carl S.

  Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
    Sserwajja Okwota

    Your sentiments are very understable and I want to put them together with 
Matek's sentiments that he posted earlier in the day. Yes Paul Kagame played a 
vital roll in the creation of the Rwanda genocide but there is no way you can 
ask him to take the stand with out calling Museveni who made the entire plan/s. 
In fact I would take it a step further too and invite Dalaire as well, for if 
you need to know why we lost those Rwandese  you need to ask Museveni and 
Delaire before you put Kagame on the stand. For Kagame at a time was a soldier 
and taking instructions from Museveni and the rest of the pack.

    But this is the part that interests me the most, Paul Kagame is a man who 
has stated over and over  that he believes into democracy, Kagame pleads of 
freedom of speech, and in those two words Kagame as well respects the powers of 
judicial courts. Kagame has arrested and caused to be arrested hundreds if not 
thousands of Rwandese, from both inside and out side Rwanda to go and testify 
into courts  on cases of human rights abuse and so on.  I believe that Kagame 
sends these Rwandese in Tanzania for he believes in the court system.

    Why is he scared to take a stand in the court system he sends his fellow 
Rwandese? That is the question Rwandese have to ask them selves today. And if 
he does not go to court what else does he put to Rwandese that he does not 
believe in? If Kagame is clean and has nothing to hide, what a chance for him 
to demonstrate so in a French court?

    But may be just may be the courts are made for Hutus only !!!!

    Em
    Toronto

     The Mulindwas Communication Group
    "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
                Groupe de communication Mulindwas 
    "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Serwaja Okwota 
      To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
      Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 12:03 PM
      Subject: RE: [rwandanet] Fw: A FRENCH JUDGE NEEDS PAUL KAGAME AT A STAND


      Mulindwa,why are the French picking on Kagame?Where is M7 name in all 
this fracas.It is a documented fact that Kagame was an officer in the NRA when 
all this took place.The missile that brought down the plane was allegedly to 
sold to Uganda by the French.So unless the French are prepared to bring M7 
in,they should give Kagame a break.



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        From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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        To: "rwanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"Congo" <[EMAIL 
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        Subject: [rwandanet] Fw: A FRENCH JUDGE NEEDS PAUL KAGAME AT A STAND
        Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 19:51:07 -0500


        Rwanda fury at Kagame trial call  
                     
                    Mr Kagame has always accused France over the genocide 
              Rwanda has angrily rejected calls by a French judge for President 
Paul Kagame to stand trial over the killing of his predecessor, which sparked 
genocide. 
              Rwanda's justice minister dismissed the claims of Mr Kagame's 
involvement as "totally unfounded". 
              Jean-Louis Bruguiere, who is investigating the death of President 
Juvenal Habyarimana, also said nine of Mr Kagame's aides should be arrested. 
              After Habyarimana's plane was shot down militias killed some 
800,000 people. 
              "The allegations are totally unfounded. The judge is acting on 
the basis of gossip and rumours," AFP news agency quoted Justice Minister 
Tharcisse Karugarama as saying. 
                    These are political games rather than a judicial process 

                    Tharcisse Karugarama


                    Profile: Paul Kagame  
              President Kagame has always vehemently denied such claims and 
accuses France, a close ally of the old Hutu regime, of being complicit in the 
1994 massacres of ethnic Tutsis and moderate Hutus. 
              A hearing began in the Rwandan capital, Kigali, last month into 
allegations of French involvement in the killings. 
              French legal authorities are investigating Habyarimana's death 
because his aircraft had a French crew. 
              Rampage 
              Judge Bruguiere is expected to sign international arrest warrants 
for the officials in the coming days. 
                     
                    Some 800,000 people were killed in the genocide 
              Under French law, a warrant cannot be issued for Mr Kagame 
because he has immunity as a head of state. 
              But the judge said Mr Kagame should stand trial at the 
International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda (ICTR), set up to try those 
responsible for the genocide. 
              BBC correspondent Fergal Keane says if the judge's claims prove 
true, the legal and moral implications would be devastating. 
              Rwanda's two most senior generals - armed forces chief James 
Kabarebe and army chief-of-staff Charles Kayonga - are among the nine aides 
suspected of involvement in the downing of the plane carrying Habyarimana and 
his Burundi counterpart Cyprien Ntaryamira on 6 April 1994. 
              Hutu militias accused Mr Kagame's then rebel Tutsi-dominated 
Rwandan Patriotic Front (RPF) of killing the president and started massacring 
Tutsis across the country. 
              Mr Kagame has always accused Hutu extremists of killing 
Habyarimana, a moderate Hutu, in order to provide a pretext for the genocide. 
              The killings ended 100 days later when the RPF took power. 
              The ICTR has convicted 26 people and acquitted five. All of those 
charged in the ICTR have had links to the Hutu militias, known as the 
Interahamwe. 
              The Tanzania-based court is due to be disbanded in 2008. 
          
         The Mulindwas Communication Group
        "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
                    Groupe de communication Mulindwas 
        "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"





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