Matek,
   
  The ICC has demonstrated idiocy on this rather silly case. The war in the 
north, just like any war, is a case of both side committing the said crimes if 
not more! 
   
  Even the NRA committed crimes against humanity and war crimes in this case! 
That the so called ICC would rather rashed, in cahort with the imperialist 
agent in the region, to indict ONLY the LRA leadership smack of buffoonery that 
any right thinking Ugandans should and must wave it off with the back of a 
hand. 
   
  The so called ICC must list and indict as well, the top leadership of the 
NRA/M who committed crimes agaginst humanity and war crimes in the North and 
North East of the country, then I am sure there will be something to debate 
about. Until then, I personally believe the LRA negiotiators are even wasting 
time and indeed being naive in trying to only defend themselves by claiming the 
ICC be dropped, as if they are saying the NRA/M committed no crimes whatsoever 
in the Northern and North Eastern political saga.
   
  Burning people alive in a train weagon is not crime against humanity; burying 
people alive in Bur Coro is not crime against humanity; sodomising men and 
raping married women in front of their family is not crime against humanity; 
tying someone Kanduya, to the point some men ended up crippled and even dead 
out of, is not crime against humanity; bombing children in villages, and 
running over lilltle children with army lorries in camps, are all not crimes 
against humanity and war crimes!!
   
  Somebody really must stop playing some silly games here.
   
  My two cents worth.
   
  Ocii 

Matek Opoko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
    The so called ICC has been suckered pretty good! we told those stupid 
wazungu's..that Museveni is using them for his own political agenda....did they 
listen.. hell no!..Now the  fact that the ICC can not even touch "kony", is a 
total embarrassment to the ICC... it put a great dent in ICC's  
Credibility!!!..LMAO!!

MK
  

  

  Uganda: Making the Peace Process Work for All

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                The Monitor (Kampala)
  OPINION
7 July 2007
Posted to the web 6 July 2007
  Ndung'u Wainaina

  On June 30, the Uganda government and Lord's Resistance Army, LRA, signed the 
third phase of their five-stage peace deal.
  Phase one was signed in August 2006. The third phase is meant to set and 
outline principles for dealing with criminal responsibility and accountability 
on both sides. So far the hostilities cessation deal of August 2006 is still in 
force. However, the real test of the final peace deal is unpackaging and fixing 
the nuts and bolts of the reconciliation and accountability deal that was 
signed in June.
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  In the June deal, both sides signed an agreement on reconciliation and 
accountability under Ugandan law. But the mechanisms are very sensitive for 
what was agreed fly in the face of existing international justice process set 
in motion by the indictments issued by the International Criminal Court (ICC) 
against the LRA's Joseph Kony, Vincent Otti, Raska Lukwiya, Okot Odhiambo and 
Dominic Ongwen.
  All are accused on 33 charges of crimes against humanity and war crimes. 
Uganda government while signing the deal stated that "Uganda has national laws 
capable of addressing the human rights violations during the conflict". But it 
added a caveat that "the only way for LRA to avoid the ICC arrest warrants is 
to sign the deal, undergo national crime tribunals and then approach the 
international judges".
  This explains clearly the politics that President Museveni has been playing 
with the ICC. Uganda government is using the ICC arrest warrants to exert 
pressure on the LRA to sign while being non-committal on the fate of LRA 
leadership.
  LRA responded to government by stating that "we shall go for national 
reconciliation only after the indictments have been withdrawn. We shall see 
penalties and national courts later". Reconciling these two hardened positions 
form the core of the justice and peace dilemma. The June deal did not clearly 
state the punishment mechanisms and government only said that it will address 
"conscientiously" the question of the ICC arrest warrants.
  United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights Loiuse Arbour in May 2007 
was categorical that those responsible for gross human rights violations 
against civilians and children must be held accountable. She stated "any accord 
[Uganda peace deal] must reaffirm the commitment of both parties to the core 
principles of international law that there can be no amnesty for war crimes, 
crimes against humanity, genocide and gross human rights violations".
  In 2000, Uganda enacted the Amnesty law with the purpose of enticing LRA to 
give up arms. However, in December 2003 President Museveni referred the 
conflict to the ICC. Consequently, in July 2005, ICC issued the arrest 
warrants. Since then Museveni has been inconsistent on what objectives he hopes 
to achieve, at one time promising unilaterally that none of the LRA leaders 
would be sent to The Hague.
  Justice Richard Goldstone at time describes this behaviour thus: "Museveni is 
acting in contravention of international law. His government signed the [ICC's 
founding] 1998 Rome Statute, and offers of amnesty violate the letter of the 
law". The Rome Statue is solemn and binding such that a country cannot simply 
opt out.
  Uganda human rights groups, religious organisations and people from the North 
have expressed their reservations about the international justice system. The 
feeling is that international justice is prolonging the conflict. These groups 
assert that "the international justice system is isolated from the moral 
consequences of its interventions".
  Instead, they are pushing for traditional justice system popularly known as 
Mato Oput. But certain human rights groups within and outside Uganda are 
vehemently opposed to traditional justice saying that while the ICC has powers 
to opt out of prosecuting LRA leadership, such eventuality is dependent on the 
existence of a strong local justice system with capacity and competence to 
administer justice to the satisfaction of the victims.
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  These groups are of the opinion that traditional justice mechanisms are 
inadequate to deal with crimes as grave as those carried out by the government 
and LRA. That it is discriminative and could entrench impunity.
  This complicates matters, the peace process also has to reconcile and come up 
with an accountability and reconciliation mechanism acceptable to both the 
local and international communities, respectively. This is the challenge. The 
answer might come from a hybrid of traditional justice and international 
justice systems. Otherwise impunity for heinous crimes is unacceptable.
The writer is Director, International Centre for Policy and Conflict, Kenya    
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