NO! Noc1. You are jumping from one point to another. You were talking of 
"current". That is why I cautuined you, considering the IDP camps; street 
dwellers in Kla; etc.
   
  Now you are leaping to "within" transformation. I do believe you are 
intelligent enough to know better. There are the interconnectedness, that for 
meaningful "within" tranformation, there MUST first be "without" change. So 
that what is constituted in the "larger" model, mould the "within" change.
   
  I am not too worried about the "within" change; in fact, the "within" change 
is something trivial. Let us avoid trivialities!
   
  Jal anong kwette peke i cogo Raa do? Ngo ma wun dong otimo kaa in nyeri?
   
  Ocii

Okuto del Coli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
          Point is, why should we holler for change else where when we could 
start from within: instead of looking for dirt else where, we could expend a 
little of that energy to cleanse our own? You know, so the monkey does not 
laugh at the tail of the one in front,so to say.
Joyficate whilst I go enrich my sight with butts......today it is mighty warm 
here and the first rainless day: day for the boats!!
noc'l




--- On Sat 07/14, ocii < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:

  From: ocii [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected]
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 18:56:49 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: RE: [Ugnet] More NRM 'rebel' MPs revealed

Noc1 hold that thought on "current". Will you?

Sure, joyfication continues, but not for all though. Hope you agree.

Ocii

Okuto del Coli wrote:
          
WHAT A BUNCH OF "FORMERS"!!!! 

For some of us, current is much more interesting.
joyfication cont...


--- On Sat 07/14, ocii < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:

  From: ocii [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 12:47:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Ugnet] More NRM 'rebel' MPs revealed


Eventually the centre will never be able to hold and guess what? When a people 
are determined, nothing can stand on the way.

Ocii
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        More NRM ‘rebel’ MPs revealed    AGNES NANDUTU & MERCY NALUGO    KAMPLA 
They are averagely young, robust and not afraid to speak out their minds to the 
party chairman and other executives. They challenge policies in the party, 
which they feel are undemocratic and some out rightly detest the approach of 
some party executives. 

The new crop of rebellious MPs within the ruling NRM is modeled more along the 
lines of the Young Parliamentarians Association, which during its short span in 
the sixth Parliament, made a record censuring two ministers and forcing two 
others to resign as the threat of censure became real. 
YPA led to the emergence of the 7th Parliament force, Parliamentary Advocacy 
Forum (Pafo), which became a bigger political force that joined with the Reform 
Agenda to create the current opposition Forum for Democratic Change (FDC). 
Which road will the current dissenters follow? 
Inside Politics explores who is who on the "rebel" list and why they are being 
tagged as that.

Mr Henry Banyenzaki: The MP Rubanda West constituency in Kabale district has 
emerged as the leader of the so-called rebel MPs, Dr Sam Lyomoki (Workers) 
deputises him. 
Barnabas Tinkasiimire (Buyaga County-Kibale)
A former Makerere University lecturer is better known for his reverence for the 
Bakiga, he calls family. Tinkasimiire is no nonsense and has been said to hit 
out at an influential lady MP when she tried to hush him into silence in the 
corridors of Parliament. 
Beatrice Byenkya: The quiet woman from Bunyoro as Hoima Woman MP, Benkya cut 
her mark when she returned the Shs5million bribe to NRM MP in the 7th 
Parliament to campaign for the lifting of term limits and has since been tagged 
a rebel. She surprised and disappointed her critics in the 7th Parliament when 
she did not join FDC but instead went ahead to contest and win on the NRM 
ticket. She has fought personal battles with fellow Bunyoro politician Henry 
Kajura. 
Rose Namayanja (Nakaseke) The tough talking Defence and Internal Affairs 
chairperson is tagged "rebel" largely because of her tough stance while 
chairing her committees. She has refused to be intimidated by male ministers 
and declined to take No for an answer from both the defence minister and army 
commander when they have appeared before her. In the caucus she is one of a few 
bold enough to raise objections. 
Butiime Tom: The former Minister from Tooro after years of disagreeing in the 
cabinet crossed the proverbial red line when he turned down a ministerial 
appointment saying it would not be useful to his constituents. A retired 
soldier, Butiime is not afraid to stand up to authority when he believes 
himself to be on the right side of an argument. Butime was one of the leaders 
that led a big demonstration, Save Mabira Crusade protesting the give away of 
Mabira forest.
Sekikubo Theodore: The Lwemiyaga MP blew the whistle on the 7th Parliament MPs 
Kisanja (third term) bribe money. He has had to deal more with local political 
disagreements with powerful minister Sam Kutesa and "Yellow Girl" Hanifa 
Kawooya who has waged a personal battle to mark him a rebel. 
Mary Mugyenyi (Nyabushozi)
Ever since she was dropped as State minister for Animal Husbandry she has 
always been critical of the government. As a backbencher, she makes sure she 
catches the eye of the speaker especially when there is a controversial matter 
being debated on the floor of Parliament. Otherwise as a minister, she used to 
be so submissive and loyal to the party. She criticised the government when the 
security personnel besieged the High Court to re-arrest the PRA suspects. 
Felix Okot Ogong: The other former minister that has vowed to unseat his boss 
come 2011. He campaigned for himself and not the President in the February 2006 
Presidential campaigns and it is no wonder that he did not survive Museveni's 
sharp knife at the reshuffle. Museveni performed poorly and revenged. 

Him and MPs Dr Sam Lyomoki and Henry Banyenzaki have always been blamed for 
criticising the NRM party and opposing some of the party positions reached at 
during the NRM Caucus. These legislators have always debated freely without 
bowing down to the party's positions. Lyomoki being a workers' MP, has always 
endeavored to represent the workers in Parliament even at the extent of 
digressing on the party's views. 

He has criticised the government budget and vowed to fight the new Local 
Government Tax imposed on workers. Banyenzaki recently said it is only the gun 
that can silence him otherwise he will always try to guide the NRM for as long 
as it is going astray.

MP Asuman Kiyingi: Is said to be disgruntled that during the February MPs 
campaigns he was promised a fat job if he beat the stubborn Bugabula MP, 
Salaamu Musumba and indeed he did so but has up to date not been rewarded. 

He has disagreed with the government especially on legal issues. The NRM Caucus 
last week re-elected several chairpersons to head parliamentary sessional 
committees, but dropped "rebel" MPs Henry Banyenzaki and Sam Lyomoki. Sources 
in the caucus told Inside Politics that the two were the notorious ones . 
Sources said that the Government Chief Whip Ms Matsiko Kabakumba and the NRM 
Secretary General Amama Mbabazi are the one holding the list of 20 dissenting 
MPs. 

According to the source, some of the 20 MPs are set to be dismissed and others 
to faught come 2011 elections. The source also told Inside Politics that two of 
the rebels are state ministers who are also set to be dropped from the 
portfolios. These rebels have been challenging government NRM programmes in the 
caucus and others in the House contrary to NRM Constitution. 

If Dr Chris Baryomonsi (Kinkizi East) says he objects to the tag "rebel MP" 
against any of his colleagues preferring that they should rather be referred to 
as MPs representing the interests of their constituents . It is rumoured that 
someone had wanted him to replace Dr Lyomoki. He is said to have been critical 
on government programmes on health without consulting the caucus first. 
Emmanuel Dombo(Bunyoli) was supposed to be dropped while his vice John Arimpa 
was set to be relocated. Sources said Mbabazi's team advised him to remove 
Dombo from the list of those who were dropped but he remained on the listed 
rebels. 

Though Mr Asuman Kiyingi (Bugabula South) is on the list of rebellion, he is 
set for a cabinet post because he is holding a fragile constituency. He was 
listed because of strong criticism on the retention of the PRA suspects. 
Kiyingi is a Chairperson of the Rules committee and a member of the Legal and 
Parliamentary Affairs committee. He was supposed to be relocated but his fate 
was reconsidered. 
Justine Kasule Lumumba: She was believed to be on her way out of the NRM 
towards the last elections but was restrained apparently for fear of a 
constituency backlash. She stayed the course but has been largely subdued in 
the caucus though some believe she is on the list of "rebel" MPs.
  
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