I do not think you and Oryema are going anywhere with your lame and foolish
attacks on the opposition FDC. In fact the attacks exposes you even more.
What Uganda need is a political transformation, which is absolutely
paramount. Whether former Prime Minister of Canada invest in Uganda or not, it
is not going to change the fact, change is what is needed in Uganda, before a
fresh beginning. Anyone who unscrupulously preyed on Uagnda land, investigation
shall exposed.
Ugandans cannot be afraid of beginning all over again; Northern and Eastern
Uganda people voting FDC are demonstrating a 20/20 vision. They are therefore
acting in the interest of starting all over again, on a clean plate, which
input are going to come from all corners of the nation.
Mu7 engineered the war that killed so many Ugandans and you are not going to
tell us who, Ugandans must blame for the deaths and destruction of the nation.
FDC is an official opposition party in Uganda, and Dr. Kizza Besigye, its
leader. You two are not going to dictate to Ugandans who they must chose to
lead into that new era.
Those who made informed choices and voted FDC in Northern and Eastern Uganda
are not stupid. They know exactly what they are looking for in the tussle for
transformation. You are not going to tell them who they must vote for; through
advancing silly and idiotic reasonings; and you are not going to insinuate that
they voted out of ignorance!
No one is ignorant when it comes to making inform political choices
especially after being force to live in concentration camps for the last
several years.
Dr. Besigye has never made it public that those in camps will not go back to
their villages until when the "killers" are all killed! Dr. Besigye has called
for political reformation ten years ago. Had the NRA/M leaders listened to his
call, we could have saved many lives that have been lost from that time to date!
Mulindwa and Oryema be very careful. Those who voted FDC in Northern and
Eastern Uganda know exactly the reason they voted for the party. A government
policy has never become a one man policy, and it shall never become!! - central
message
Get to know those facts; for your own good.
Ocii
Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ugandans
If you put a free and fair election in Uganda today, and free as the Canadian
system we are using today in this election, Yoweri Museveni wins. The problem
is not the electoral system in Uganda, yes there may be a one or two problems
here and there but on the general observation, Ugandans will elect Museveni
like yesterday. So stop to put the problem on Museveni and the government but
educate the population, Teach them that there is a bigger picture than getting
money today, teach them that they have a right that must be respected by any
leader. These people have been so pounded all along that Northerners elected Dr
Kiiza Besigye, a man that sent them to the camps. This man wrote the policy
that introduced the camps in Northern Uganda, explain to me how he wins a
constituency in Northern Uganda? On the suffering that we have seen in Northern
Uganda, why are Acholis now being appointed ambassadors the most? Is that also
due to election rigging?
The election of Ontario is closing in exactly 2 hours, I am very afraid for
the leader of opposition for he might loose the constituency he stood in. If
you want to follow the commentaries log on www.cfrb.com and listen live in 2
hours. (9 PM) Toronto time.
We are getting a government tonight and as a Liberal I have a glee for the
Liberals last warn a back to back majority in Ontario 70 years ago. We think it
is going to happen again tonight, so it is historical.
EM
Toronto
The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
Groupe de communication Mulindwas
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
----- Original Message -----
From: oryema johnson
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: Its Time to Rise Up Against The Museveni Kleptocracy(Mayimuna)
I agree with you Musaja alumbwa, that elections in Africa would be more
credible if the oppsitions for once won. But let us put election rigging aside
and look at the credibility of the opposition itself in the case of Uganda. The
opposition that is expected to win has laready been in power twice (UPC),
ousted on both occasions in a military coup and has been accused of rigging
itself. FDC founders were once part of the current ruling regime, have
participated in writing some of the vicious policies that has caused a whole
region of the county (north) to suffer for 20 years.
Realistically, the Ugandan electorate is always caught between a rock and a
hard surface...Do you continue to vote for the same party that always rigs, or
do you vote for the one that rigged before, banned political parties once and
hope for the best?
The sad part is that the people (leaders) who are putting us through all this
hell, are either our own family members, long term friends, old school mates
and most of all, fellow Ugandans with whom we should have shared the same pain,
worked together to eliminate them, but alas, they live in their own world once
they have moved just a step ahead of us.
OJ
musaja alumbwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The only election that can be
passed for credible in Africa are those where opposition wins. Does anyone
remember what EC commissioner Owor (RIP) said about the election that was
conducted when he was still alive
Ahmed Kateregga Musaazi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Although at 12, i followed with interest the Uganda/Tanzania war that ousted
Idi Amin regime. Ever since i intaracted with many UA and UNLA leaders and
some TPDF cmmanders and i have learnt that there is always a lot of wishfull
thinking among Ugandan exiles. At time it is mere wishful thinking and at
others they do it deliberately.
Take for instance, Obote's lises since 1971 where he used to claim enjoying
a lot of support from Uganbdan population and army. But when Museveni
siggested a protracted people's war, the so called popular Obote rejected it
and preffered hiring mercinaries from Tanzania, the Sudan, Somalia, Egypt
and Guinea to fight for his restoration to power.
During the September invasion of 1972, Obote was claiming that wiuth mis
hass civilian and military support, Amin and his henchmen would run away
imeddiately Masaka and Mbarara towns had fallen. Although Mbarara almost
fell, nothing happened except mass killing of the guerillas mostly Acholi
and Langi who were operating in hostile areas like Masaka, Rakai, Mbarara
and Isingiro.
Even when Masaka and Mbarara fell to TPDF and UNLA in 1979, Amin's
government remained intact. But exiles used to tell the late Mwalimu Julius
Nyerere lies that Ugandans would sonn sort Idi Amin themselves. Hadn't TPDF
marched to Kampala, Obote ll regime would not have taken place. Mark you
Amin was a one man military dictatorship. But due to the hatred people had
on Obote and UPC fascism, many were ready to die for his fascist regime.
Even due to the mass support Sir Edward Muteesa enjoyed among his
subjects, one would have expected the Baganda of all walks of life to have
risen and swept away Obote l one party dictatorship. But they did not do so
and may be could not manage without the support of other Ugandans from other
regions.
Probably UFM thought that attacking Lubiri barracks and holding it could
drive out Obote ll regime but it never happened. In fact it made the regime
stronger.
YTherefore, my brothers the Ugandan exiles, you may have tempered with
the NRMNRA regime between 1986 and 1886 before it was populalrly elected in
presidential, parliamentary and local government elections. But now there is
no way you can wage an armed struggle and you succeed. Examples are many.
The political uprising can not happen in Uganda if it did not happen
against Sir Andrew Cohen for exiling the Kabaka or Obote 1. The no Lule no
work was shortlived and was only in Buganda and Busoga.
While NRM regime is still popular including President Museveni himself,
Ugandans are aware that our forces like many African will not shoot in the
air when there is a target. No civilian will risk his or her life
You should know that unlike in countries like Zambia where people may
make an uprising over the hike of maize prices, Uganda is Africa's food
basket and there is still free and cheap food. So long as one can survive,
he will not risk into such deadly projects.
However in a general election, Ugandans are empowered by the
constitutions and other laws to retain or eject a regime. In 1996 IPFC could
not do it as sotherners feared Ssmogerere's marriage of convenience with
UPC. In 2001, Besigye was a real power to reckon with as i know many who now
sing NRM songs but were collaborating with him. In 2006, the opposition was
fragmented between FDC on one hand and UPC and DP on the other. If the
opposition corrects its past mistakes in 1996, 2001 and 2006, it may win
presidential or at least parliamentary elections in 2016. Although it is not
expected to win presidential elections in 2011, for NRM is still popular, it
can successfully come with at least a third in parliament and local
government council and committees.
The interesting thing is that many of the opposition leaders and
supporter am close too, believe their dreams as true realities and start
talking, walking and working in them. I really enjoy this theatre.
----- Original Message -----
From: "oryema johnson"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 11:01 AM
Subject: RE: Its Time to Rise Up Against The Museveni Kleptocracy(Mayimuna)
>
>
> Ekitibwa,
>
> Ugandans are not cowards. They have lost faith in
> leadership and change after giving so much for it. I
> do not know how old you were in 1971, but there was
> dancing on the streets of Ugandan when Amin took over
> power. It was a bloodless coup, but what followed was
> bloodful.
>
> In 1979 there was dancing even in Ugandan villlages
> when Amin was violently let go. The honeymoon did not
> last long.
>
> On January 25th, 1986, there was dancing and
> celebration on the streets of Kampala when Museveni
> was sworn in as president after five years of havoc in
> Luweero. 20 years down the road, the very people who
> danced and drunk malwa as if they have never drunk it
> before are now the ones regreting the most.
>
> So, when someone shows up from nowhere and tells
> people to rise up, the question those poor Ugandans
> you are describing ask is this: for what and for who?
>
> You talk of Ugandans missing two chances of removing
> Museveni from power when Besigye was arrested. The way
> politics is played in Uganda, Besigye does not
> represent Uganda, but a tiny group of people from his
> tribe and was part and parcel of the Museveni's
> Revolution that has failed. Only nut cases would lay
> down their lives for him again.
>
> As for Mabira, conservation and environmental
> protection is not an African thing. An old man from
> Rakai or Ajumani is not going to lay down his life for
> a tree which he cuts down everyday to cook his food or
> warm his water to have a shower.
>
> In a nutshell, even if Ugandans rose today and showed
> Museveni the door, the man or woman who replaces him
> is not going to do any better. Not that we should keep
> Museveni, but the kind of change or the mean to it,
> Richard is proposing has been tried before and it has
> not worked.
>
> Let us do it differently this time. Dialogue, Dialogue
> and more dialogue for the next four years. If Buganda
> can keep its quest for federalism on track and use
> clarity in its demand, the rest of Uganda will follow
> and a better system will eventually emerge through
> peaceful means. There are many things we can do and
> achieve without killing somebody/someone for it.
>
> OJ
>
>
> --- ekitibwa kyabuganda
> wrote:
>
> > Mukyala Mayi,
> > Ugandans are cowards probabaly including
> > myself.Mubutufu, Ugandans had a chance to get this
> > guy out on two occassions:
> > 1.When Besigye was arrested before the 2006
> > presidential elctions.That was an opportunity that
> > presented itself in disguise but after a few teargas
> > here and there, they all went back into their
> > houses.
> > 2.the second opportunity which was even stronger
> > was the Mabila demonstartions.It united all Ugandans
> > against the government.Even Museveni's sturborn talk
> > while in Kakiiri that kakibeki oba jembe mabila ajja
> > muwayo did not make the Ugandans to back down.I just
> > hate those that advised Museveni to back down on the
> > issue because this was the mother of opportunities
> > to kick some NRM asses.
> > Now my conclusion was we are cowards
> > abawedde.Even 1 gun if fired properly is enough to
> > scare off Ugandans off the streets and Yoweri knows
> > this very well.We are cowards abawede emilimu.My
> > hope is now in the army to get rid of their man. As
> > for civilians, just forget about them.They will
> > never get rid of Museveni whether through elections
> > or rebellions. Forget it.The man will just retire
> > yekka and he will be succeded by either his son,
> > brother or wife.
> >
> >
> > allan barigye wrote:
> > .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px }
> > body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt;
> > FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } Phew,I nearly missed that
> > one!!! Now, any other combatants out there, that
> > should be the starting point A and look for ground
> > zero.
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 02:31:54 -0700
> > Subject: RE:Fw: Its Time to Rise Up Against The
> > Museveni Kleptocracy
> >
> > Wow!!
> > I bet Allan Barigye would love this. Wonder how
> > long Robert Mukisa, PhD will survive in Kampala.
> > Ok, Ugandans at Heart, what do you say?
> > Mayimuna
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------- Original Message Follows ------- From:
> > ">Edward Mulindwa
> > To: ">
> > Subject: Fw: Its Time to Rise Up Against The
> > Museveni Kleptocracy
> > Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 05:00:57 -0400
> >
> > From: Operation Source of the Nile
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 11:27 PM
> > Subject: Its Time to Rise Up Against The Museveni
> > Kleptocracy
> >
> >
> >
> > Its Time to Rise Up Against The Museveni
> > Kleptocracy
> > For twenty years now, Ugandans have seen their
> > dignity, property and human rights violated by the
> > National Resistance Movement Organisation (NRMO)
> > government that came to power claiming it had
> > brought a fundamental change to Ugandan politics.
> > Their guiding principles were a ten-point economic
> > and political program.
> > These included: (I) democracy and a decent standard
> > of living so ordinary people could resist the
> > blandishments of unprincipled politicians; (ii)
> > politicize the army and police, and end corruption
> > at the top; (iii) eliminate sectarianism by ending
> > politics based on religion, language or ethnic
> > origin; (iv) stop the interference of foreign
> > interests in domestic affairs; (v) establish an
> > independent, integrated, and self-sustaining economy
> > to curtail the leakage of national wealth abroad;
> > (vi) restore basic social services - clean water,
> > health clinics, literacy, housing, etc; (vii)
> > eliminate corruption in the public service; (viii)
> > return property and land seized by previous
> > administrations and government mistaken development
> > projects to rightful owners; (ix) create larger
> > markets and a rational use of national resources;
> > (x) maintain and promote a mixed national economy.
> > In is obvious that the ten-point program was a
> > dismal failure. Immediately after coming to power,
> > the NRMO government embarked on a campaign to
> > dehumanise and disenfranchise our country men in the
> > north, central and eastern Uganda. The northerners
> > were relegated to concentration camps for 20 years,
> > destroying an entire generation. These once proud
> > and productive citizens in a fertile part of the
> > country were turned into beggars and much of their
> > land taken by the ruling NRMO class. The war in
> > northern Uganda dragged on for so long because the
> > NRMO political and military class were siphoning
> > donor funds intended to "combat terrorism".
> > The current torrential rains and subsequent floods
> > in this region have been a blessing in disguise for
> > the NRMO government policy of destituting citizens
> > of northern Uganda. This is evidenced by the
> > governments' delayed response to provide emergency
> > assistance to the region. It took the government
> > almost a week to come out with a statement on the
> > deteriorated situation and declare a state of
> > emergency. Further more, much of the foreign
> > assistance for the flood victims remains
> > un-disbursed for fear that the NRMO government would
> > loot it or use it on "unrelated projects".
> > Further south in the central region, the government
> > is once again antagonising people in Mpingi, Mukono,
> > Luweero and Kiboga districts. The government is
> > making concerted effort to disposes people of their
> > land by bringing "balaalo" with their herds to
> > occupy other peoples land by force. This is the
> > "Bonna Bagaggawale" policy of enriching the selected
> > few. The legitimate land owners have been rendered
> > helpless because the "balaalo" are armed and
> > protected by the NRMO security establishment. The
> > government has deliberately started land wrangles
> > all over the country. Unfortunately for the NRMO,
> > this is one war it will not be able to win.
> > We would like to inform our fellow countrymen, that
> > we do not have to tolerate a government that has no
> > respect or concern for its citizens. It is time that
> > we stand together and resist the Museveni
> > kleptocracy. Politicians are supposed to be our
> > servants, serving out of our own goodwill to them.
> > The political, social and economic conditions in the
> > country are no longer tenable, the social fabric and
> > moral fibre of our nation has been seriously eroded.
> > Uganda has failed as a state. It is our
> > responsibility my fellow countrymen to rise up to
> > the occasion, protect our life , property, and
> > culture for posterity by any means necessary. Kaguta
> > and his NRMO cabal have to and must go! We would
> > like to appeal to our brethren in the diaspora to
> > join hands with us in Uganda as we prepare to clean
> > house, the struggle has began.
> > For God and Our Country
> > Robert Wasswa Mukisa Ph.D.
> > Operation Source of the Nile
> > Kampala, Uganda
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Ekitibwa Kyabuganda
> > Uganda is for all Ugandans to enjoy.Let us kick
> > the dictatorship out of Uganda.Buganda and Northern
> > Uganda should be given their federo.
> >
> >
> >
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