And it is only after ridding Uganda of him, that a new era, of no war metality 
can be ushered in. That is the way I look at it.
   
  And ridding Uganda of him will come through either of only two solutions. 1) 
Voting opposition into power; or 2) by use of force. 
   
  Ocii

Michael Senyonjo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Readers,

Museveni would have gone back to fight in the bush whether there were rigged 
elections or not.  The man had his plan worked out way back in the early 
1970's.  The rigged elections just triggered his actions.  He himself has 
stolen 3 election;  how man wars have been started as a result.  The man has a 
war mentality, the kind Uganda does not need anymore.

Michael Senyonjo

    
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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Besigye meets Ogole
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:34:23 +0300

  We are not on hearsay but i eyewitnessed testimonies by the people of Luwero. 
It was state sponsored violence. The main killers were Ogole and Ahmed Ogeny. I 
saw Ogeny testfying before the commission. Hadn't Obote rigged election in his 
favour and re-imposed himself on the people of Uganda, there would not have 
been killings in Luwero Triangle and possibly West Nile. Obote therefore takes 
responsibility but the Ogoles and Ogenys of this world were massively 
implicated by the evidence given by volunteers.
  Museveni came to arrest the situation and NRA identified itself with the 
people. This is well documented. But if Ogole apologises and asks for amnesty, 
he may be pardoned for there are many other killers i always see in Kampala 
whom the state and society have pardoned.
    ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Peter-Rhaina Gwokto 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 3:32 PM
  Subject: Re: Besigye meets Ogole
  

    
  
  It's Museveni who buthered you folks in Luwero - FACT. Accept it or shut up. 
Ogole's apology is not required. He would be an asshole to apologise unless 
desparation and senile dementia are creeping in. Has Museveni ever apologized 
about the obvious?
 
   
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    ----- Original Message ----
From: Ahmed Kateregga Musaazi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 1:58:33 AM
Subject: Re: Besigye meets Ogole

  Col.John Ogole was the butcher of Luwero. Ask Wafula Ogutu he wll tell you. 
He must apologise for the atrocities he committed and he must seek amnesty.
    ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jean Paul Mivumba 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 11:03 PM
  Subject: Besigye meets Ogole
  

'I am sure he is free to return. We would welcome him. (Col) Ogole is a 
Ugandan. But who was Dr Besigye representing. He is not government," Lt. Gen. 
Tumwine, also member of the UPDF High Command said in a telephone interview 
yesterday.'


I think this is "Nugu" that  Besigye upstaged them. Does  Besigye need to be 
representing anybody to meet Ogole or anybody else? Is it only government that 
can meet exiles? 
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        Army, MPs welcome Ogole- Besigye meeting    HUSSEIN BOGERE, YASIIN 
MUGERWA & MERCY NALUGO    KAMPALA THE London reconciliatory meeting between 
Colonels Kizza Besigye and John Ogole has received a nod of approval from a 
section of Ugandans. 
Col. Ogole and Dr Besigye met in London last Sunday. 

Former bush war commander Lt Gen Elly Tumwine said Col Ogole is welcome to 
Uganda, although he wondered in whose capacity opposition leader Dr Besigye met 
Col Ogole. 
"I am sure he is free to return. We would welcome him. (Col) Ogole is a 
Ugandan. But who was Dr Besigye representing. He is not government," Lt. Gen. 
Tumwine, also member of the UPDF High Command said in a telephone interview 
yesterday.

The UPDF spokesman, Maj Felix Kulayigye said reconciliation was not a new 
concept. 
"We have passed out 77 former LRA rebels. Nobody has been harassed. It is an 
old concept to absorb our adversaries," he said. 

"When we capture you, you either join us or you go home. There is the example 
of Maj. Gen. Julius Oketa who was a Lieutenant when he joined us. We don't need 
lessons. It has been our modus operandi on a non-combat avenue." 

At Parliament, Chwa MP, Livingstone Okello-Okello commended the move saying it 
was a new gesture that Uganda needs to embrace. 

Oyam South MP, Ishaa Otto said Col Ogole and Dr Besigye's meeting is welcome in 
the interest of peace and reconciliation. "This is what Ugandans need to hear. 
How long are we going to hate each other? President Yoweri Museveni should 
learn from this," the legislator said. 

Kawempe South MP and DP member Ssebuliba Mutumba was amazed to see the man who 
inflicted most casualties on the NRA in the Luweero bush war happily reconciled 
with Dr Besigye. 

"It is a sign of optimism towards a united nation. We need to teach our leaders 
that detestation cannot take us forward," he said.
Bunyaruguru MP Gaudioso Tindamanyire said the NRM had not prevented anybody 
from coming back to Uganda. 

"We welcome everybody because it is the cornerstone of the government that 
cherishes tolerance," he said. 

Peter Claver Mutuluuza (Mawokota MP) however dismissed Col. Ogole as "expired 
and therefore cannot be a threat to the established NRM government."
His views were echoed by Robert Byabashaija (Youth Western) who said Dr Besigye 
and Ogole's reconciliation cannot take the NRM by surprise.

The opposition shadow minister for Foreign Affairs, Mr Reagan Okumu (Aswa 
County) added a twist to the meeting, saying there was nothing personal about 
Dr Besigye and Col. Ogole's meeting.

"The only difference between the two was during the bush war where they 
believed in different leaders. They became enemies by extension and any 
reconciliation is secondary because a primary one should be between Besigye and 
Obote and between Ogole and Museveni," he said.

Jimmy Akena, son to former President Dr Milton Obote whose government Col. 
Ogole served declined to comment on the matter. 
Col. Ogole, a top commander of UNLA forces under the late Milton Obote 
inflicted most casualities on the then rebel National Resistance Army led by 
President Museveni, after the mysterious death of Brig. Oyite Ojok. 

In his book, 'Sowing the Mustard Seed', President Museveni mentions several 
battles between his rag-tag army and the UNLF led by Col. Ogole. 

"Meanwhile, the UNLA force led by Ogole was desperately chasing us, trying to 
make us jettison our equipment…when we were about to start moving, he attacked 
us at Birembo with artillery and Katyusha rockets. We managed to repulse him, 
but we lost five of our boys…" President Museveni recounted.
http://www.monitor.co.ug/news/news10114.php
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"Blessed are those that expected nothing. They will not be disappointed."

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