Name less

Man you have a very illussional mind up there. Right now you seem to have left 
me 5 miles in common sense. Can you kindly start by defining your problem, for 
the many postings and self declamations you have made so far you seem not to 
have a clue of what is Kenya's problem. Because to say it is Mwai Kibaki, it is 
too childish and from a non critical thinker.

EM
Toronto


 The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
            Groupe de communication Mulindwas 
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Africare- NewPublications 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Cc: Abuja Nigeria ; Africare Publications ; Africa-oped ; Afrocentrik ; Voice 
Of Uganda ; IgboEvents ; Camnetwork 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 8:01 AM
  Subject: Re: [Mwananchi] Re: BBC gets it wrong on Kalonzo



  Kalonjo became irrelevant to Kenyans who want change from the first day he 
broke away from ODM and formed ODM-K. 

  Were Kenyans counting on him in this tussles? Absolutely not!! Therefore, 
whatever Kalonjo does cannot affect the tussle to see democracy in the country, 
after all Kenyans made it clear in their votes that Kalonjo does not count!

  What is going to be important is for wananchi, beside continuous protests, to 
reject paying taxes to the illegal government of Kibaki. Once wananchi refused 
to pay taxes to the illegal government of Kibaki, then watch as Kibaki won't be 
able to govern Kenya. He won't have the money to pay the police, army, 
government civil servants et el. He won't be able to finance anything in the 
country. 

  What Africans have always failed to do is hit fools like Kibaki where it 
hurts! Now watch as this idea take roots. 

  Refuse to paye taxes to this illegal goverment of Kibaki! That is our advice 
to wananchi!!

  ARJP Management

  Mulindwa Edward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
    Chifu Wa Malindi

    Political decisions are never curved in stones, even in United States I 
have seen Senators crossing from one side to another. Start to follow your own 
politics in United States then you will understand where Kalonzo is coming 
from. By the way what happened to those attacking me when I stated that Kilonzo 
will move to Kibaki's side. Interesting how they manage to find large stones to 
hide under this fast.

    Now watch how Raila Odinga's MPs cross the isle. You will be very surprised.

    EM
    Toronto

     The Mulindwas Communication Group
    "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
                Groupe de communication Mulindwas 
    "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Chifu 
      To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
      Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 11:42 PM
      Subject: [Mwananchi] Re: BBC gets it wrong on Kalonzo


      Ndugu Ben

      I would like to make with you all what Kalonzo bad mouthed Kibaki to 
      wananchi. Kweli politics has strange bed fellows. As my fellow Africans 
      join this now well spread out forum I would like to ask as to what 
      point when shifts goal post to suit his personal agenda (read Kalonzo). 

      So let us rewind ourself on Kalonzo and his take on Kibaki (a leopard 
      never changes it spots)...

      I will start from the first from Kalonzo's website and that tells you 
      that all along he was playing games with ODM Kenya...read on..

      I will join hands with Kibaki so long I am the running mate..

      http://www.kalonzofoundation.org/

      **********

      On another one...

      Kalonzo then as a foreign minister talking about Zimbabwe and acting as 
      if he is a saint....

      From The Times (UK), 14 February 

      Zimbabwe exclusion must not be lifted says Kenya 
      By Richard Beeston, Diplomatic Editor 

      Kenya broke ranks with other leading African members of the 
      Commonwealth yesterday when it insisted that Zimbabwe should remain 
      suspended from the organisation for the rest of this year. In a 
      pointed criticism of the failure of African states to conduct free and 
      fair elections, Kalonzo Musyoka, the Kenyan Foreign Minister, urged 
      fellow Africans to follow his own country's "velvet revolution". 
      Speaking in London, where he met Jack Straw, the Foreign Secretary, he 
      said that Kenya had peacefully changed government in December's 
      election without "a single bullet" being fired. "We do not want to 
      issue moral edicts against any of our African brothers but, quite 
      frankly, Kenya can speak with a little bit of authority on the crucial 
      matter of democratisation in the continent," he said. "We would want 
      our African friends to emulate our example in terms of democratic 
      practice. That is what we would be able to tell our brothers in 
      Zimbabwe." 

      *************

      Kalonzo the true doublespeak as he is...

      The Guardian, London 

      Kenya clamps down on media freedom 

      · Masked police raid paper and shut down TV station 
      · Journalists held as US condemns 'thuggery' 

      Jeevan Vasagar in Nairobi 
      Friday March 3, 2006 
      The Guardian 

      Armed police officers wearing masks shut down a Kenyan television 
      station, disabled a printing press and made a public bonfire out of 
      thousands of copies of a pro-opposition newspaper yesterday after a 
      dispute over a story about the president, Mwai Kibaki. 

      Police carrying AK-47 rifles seized computers, cut power cables and 
      beat up security guards during midnight raids on the joint 
      headquarters of the Standard, Kenya's oldest newspaper; KTN, a 
      private TV station; and the newspaper's printing press. The raids 
      followed the arrest of three Standard journalists over a story in 
      Saturday's paper which claimed Mr Kibaki had secretly met an 
      opposition leader. 

      It is the first time a Kenyan government has shut down a major media 
      company and drew a stunned response from journalists used to 
      operating in a relatively liberal environment. "We believe this is a 
      direct and blatant attempt to undermine the freedom of the press in 
      this country, that is guaranteed by the constitution," said Tom 
      Mshindi, the chief executive officer of the Standard Group. "It is 
      also intended to paralyse our business." 

      According to media reports yesterday, the police were members of an 
      elite rapid response unit called the Kanga squad, intended to fight 
      carjackers and bank robbers. They targeted the Nairobi offices shared 
      by the Standard and KTN, who have the same parent company, partly 
      owned by the family of former president Daniel arap Moi. 

      The story which triggered the dispute claimed that Mr Kibaki had held 
      a secret meeting with opposition leader Kalonzo Musyoka to discuss 
      how the former minister could rejoin the government. Both sides have 
      denied this. 

      Three journalists - the weekend managing editor, Chacha Mwita; the 
      weekend news editor, Dennis Onyango; and reporter Ayub Savula - were 
      detained on Tuesday and questioned in connection with the report. 
      They remain in police custody. 

      <snipped>






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