Name Less

Unlike you, verbosity is not my trademark. In as much as you will allow your 
anemic intellectual posturing to blur your understanding, I will never tire to 
point out the folly in your quasi-academic analyses. I will not engage in 
verbiage as I have stated and so, I will start off by telling you that I am no 
Agent of any colonialist et neo-colonialist. If I were, I would like you and 
your Paramount Chief Amolo is doing be playing the genocide he and his 
gangsters are involved in to the medias of these Colonialists et 
Neo-colonialists. If Amolo is a "fighter" for people's rights, please just list 
a few  tangible things he has fought for on behoove of the poor that one can 
write home about. He has, for the past 15 years been representing that 
Constituency where Kibera is found. Is there any poverty-alleviation projects 
that he as the fighter for the poor has been involved in? 

All I know is that Amolo, like most manipulators who mask their inadequacies, 
is all to keen to hijack populist opinions and turn it to his advantage. This 
he does because, he knows most of his flock, the Luos are prisoners of 
conscience to his late father's legendary clairvoyance. Just like his late 
father, Ajuma(RIP), he is basically a non performer who easily recourses to 
violent means to cover up his non performances.

On the issue of branding me a Luo hater,y you could not be more wrong! All I am 
exposing here that should help the Luos and those similar minded tribalist is 
that in the 21st Century, tribalism as a political base is counter productive 
for we are now living in a global village.That is why, as late as Yesterday, 
Western media houses were able to un earth those people whom you butchered and 
tried to burn their bodies in a church. Thus your claims of being aggrieved is 
not in tandem with the facts on the ground and I therefore request that you 
cease and desist from making outrageous claims which you very well know is only 
a cover up tactic employed by certified and skilled genocidaire exemplar!

 We are taking count of the bodies your tribal cabals and their chiefs the 
likes of William Ole,  Ntimama and William Ruto are involved in. Soon or later, 
they will implicate their paramount Chief tribalist and bingo!  They will all 
head to Den Haag aka The Hague. Najib Balala will also have his files with the 
CIA revisited for his complicity in terrorism. I wonder whether he is now free 
to travel to the US, the very country you are trying to impress and at the same 
time accusing me of supporting. Is that not diabolical?

Lets' agree to disagree but cease and desist from calling people dense, for 
unknowingly, you might be denser! Remember Siasa, is about KUPINGANA and Not 
KUPIGANA, like your tribal cabals are engaged in.

What a waste of time.

EM
Toronto
  
 The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
            Groupe de communication Mulindwas 
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Africare- NewPublications 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Cc: Abuja Nigeria ; Africa-oped ; Afrocentrik ; Voice Of Uganda ; IgboEvents 
; Africare Publications 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 9:01 PM
  Subject: Re: [camnetwork] Re: Odinga - Do Not Betray Those Who Have Died for 
Your Country



  What we are dealing with is beyond your jaundiced eyes; your views are 
distorted by the amount of crumbs you are labouring to acquire, not only from 
the Kibaki, but also from those neo-colonialists you are trying to dupe 
Africans to be fighting. 

  Go back and re-read all your views regarding Raila and you shall not fail to 
note the FEAR of LUOS and therefore HATE for the same as well, that informs 
your opinion. Whatever your HATE for LUOS, you can be sure that NO LUOS even 
pays attention to it - BUT take meticulous notes of; for, in the longrun, you 
won't have anywhere to run but to explain yourself. 

  LUOS, YES, are well educated even when they have been deliberately sidelined 
from fully accessing the natural endowments of their nation. Now consider a 
situation where LUOS and the rest of their countrymates have a level playing 
field, would you even be able to compete with them, whatever your ethnicity 
is?? 

  Obviously you won't be able to compete!! And that is the reason people like 
you are very affraid of a LUO-led government! Raila, as a heavy weight 
politician fighting to improve condition of living of the poor, has managed to 
captured the loyalty of many many Kenyans that however much you try to 
decompaign him, you simply are wasting time. 

  Because of Raila, Kenyans are now rising up slowly; it may not appear so to 
many who HATE him as a LUO, like you, but truth be told, Kenyans are rising. It 
won't be long before the Kibaki realise how dangerous anti-democratic moves 
are. 

  With millions of illiterates, jobless, and poverty stricken Kenyans all over 
the country, one would be really dense to try and maintain the status quo where 
millions of Kenyan lives were and have been condemned to living in slums while 
a few enjoy the wealth of the nation!! And unless a person is so dense like 
you, there is noway this state is going to last; not when we have just 
experienced the first wave of violence as attempt to bring about change for the 
better for millions of Kenyans. 

  What so far has transpired in Uganda amounts to genocide, especially in 
Northern Uganda, guaging from the information we are getting. Since that 
genocide was engineered by a few individuals, who, like you, FEAR LUOS and 
therefore HATE them, the tussle is going to be on bringing these individuals to 
book, like the Nazis, after orchestrating genocide against Jews! 

  Therefore, don't start to blow your trumphet yet by asking silly question 
thusly: "If you talk about having monopoly of VIOLENCE, ask your Ugandan 
cousins about the Opportunity costs associated with violence." As one who 
perpetuated the genocide in Northern Uganda, we do not see you escaping the 
long arms of the law. You may argue that how are these people going to bring 
that long arms of the law to get me? Well, how have the Jews managed to bring 
virtually all Nazis who participated in conducting genocide against Jews to 
book? Gauging from trends of political developement globally, and noting the 
apparent growth in human savvyness, you are going to be very lucky escaping 
justice, whichever you pick! 

  For your information, a new strategy needs must be employed, if Africans must 
correct the many political, economic and social ills devastating the country. 
There are those Africans who tend to be fast identifying themselves with 
British and Americans as the good guys, while painting the rest of Africans as 
anti-British and Americans, so that they can perpetuate themselves in power, 
using Bristish and American donnations, in the process, thereby keeping 
themselves in position of priviledges. 

  As a result, they end up killing Africans who disagree with them on matter of 
democracy and good governance! Uganda is a case in point; Kenya, is a case in 
point. And you captured that LACKEYISM perfectly in many of your responses on 
the political saga in Kenya. 

  You wanted the army to remove Raila if he had won the election; you also 
suggested that the British and Americans will take action against Raila should 
he be identified as a stumbling block. To crown it all, you stated as well that 
Raila is not a presidential material. All these utterances capture one thing: A 
person who is taking advantage of Africans by painting other Africans as 
anti-British and America so that neo-colonialists can supply him with some 
crumbs, while engaging in acts of betrayal like you are betraying Raila - a 
champion of the poor!!

  What even amazes is the fact that you think all these forumites are fools who 
cannot figure out who you are and what you are indeed engaged in, never mind 
your internet posturing. 

  We won't waste time with you. But we shall put you to where you belong any 
minute on your wicked views. Note however that Kenya is changing. And as soon 
as Kenyans pick on the idea of not paying taxes to the illegal regime of 
Kibaki, rest assured the centre won't be able to hold. And democracy shall be 
ushered into the country whether or not you like it.

  ARJP Management  

  Mulindwa Edward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
    Name less

    I will respond to your insults to actually make a difference between you a 
so called non punkish Luo who is so steeped in his our ignorance and me, a 
Ugandan who seeing the situation from the fence and having a bird's eye view 
feels responsible to give you advice. Whatever your sentiments, the type of 
politics that LUOS as you prefer to call yourselves, indulge in is a big 
disgrace to HUMANITY. You are a people who am reliably informed pride 
yourselves as having the highest number of PhD holders in the entire Great 
Lakes Regions yet in all this plenty of schooling, you all missed being 
EDUCATED.

    That is why rather than face the reality and fallacy of your bigoted 
election platform, you resort to calling people dense as though you are a 
clairvoyant. It is because of getting too much schooling without education that 
is why you still think that Governments are there to provide JOBS! No wonder, 
when many of you with your PhDs come to North America especially Canada, the 
only Jobs they know you qualify to do is that of Driving Cabs so that you can 
get educated and run out the too much schoolism in yourselves. If you talk 
about having monopoly of VIOLENCE, ask your Ugandan cousins about the 
Opportunity costs associated with violence.

    And I sincerely  rest my case.

    EM
    Toronto
      
     The Mulindwas Communication Group
    "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
                Groupe de communication Mulindwas 
    "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Africare- NewPublications 
      To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
      Cc: Abuja Nigeria ; Africare Publications ; Africa-oped ; Afrocentrik ; 
Voice Of Uganda ; IgboEvents ; Camnetwork 
      Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 8:50 PM
      Subject: Re: [Mwananchi] Re: [Ugandacom] Re: [KOL] Re: Odinga - Do Not 
Betray Those Who Have Died for Your Country


      For the second time, since you are dense, FEAR LUOS, and therefore HATE 
LUOS, at your own PERIL as an INDIVIDUAL who hate LUOS, we would like to bring 
it to your attention again that GEMA is a POLITICA ORGANIZATION that has worked 
hard to see millions of Kenyans sidelined from their resources! 

      That is why Kenya, a nation of 36 million people, have the largest slums 
in the world. Therefore, as a political association, GEMA knows full well that 
they cannot pretend to run away from political attacks, for Kenyans as a people 
have every right to access their natural endowments. 

      ODM and its leader have chosen the path of changing the lives and 
conditions of living of these millions of kenyans. If that policy contradicts 
the political view of GEMA, who would rather, the KIKUYU, EMBU, and MERU, keep 
and maintain the status quo by any means necessary, as Kibaki is embarking on, 
then they cannot pretend that political attacks on GEMA by ODM is a HATE 
RELATED! 

      But this imbecile argument coming from a PUNK from Uganda, there cannot 
be cause for alarm. For, GEMA officials know darn well GEMA is political, and 
therefore cannot run and hide under claim of hate whenever attacked, while at 
the same time engage in politics albeit subterraneally. 

      So the point here muct be clear. Those in politics, whose action 
annihilate thousands upon thousands, through poverty, diseases, lack of 
education, lack of jobs, etc, cannot hide under HATE CRIMES when things become 
hot, when their very actions are devastating many families in the country. 

      No one monopolize violence; every person can be violent. Therefore, the 
"peril" you are yapping about can go both ways. If you think this is not true, 
embark on bringing about "perils", and see for yourself what shall happen. This 
fact is even provne in physics, where a theory was developed thus: For every 
action, there is a reaction! What is in Kenya today is a reaction that is bound 
to take a life of its own, if Kibaki continues to ignore the voices of reason.

      Kenyans need cgange; Kenyans have voted for change and change is what 
they are going to get. When a people decide to bring about change, rest assured 
change shall come.  

      ARJP Management

      Mulindwa Edward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
        Odhiambo Oketch

        A house founded on wrong foundations does not pass the test of time! I 
hope this saying is a truism that will help us as Africans to start thinking 
through the dubious plans we make to try to bring about change. If any 
political leader decides knowingly to plan to gain political power by excluding 
other nationalities from that plan, such a leader is only worthy being a 
PARAMOUNT TRIBAL CHIEF!.

        During the elections, what we were reading was a tone of ANTI-GEMA 
Movement. I started wondering whether the architects of this plan actually 
fathomed the consequences of their parochialism but alas!, they did not. All 
the many acts attributed to Jaramogi and now his son are all make believe 
statements 
        that the perpetrators of these paramount chieftaincy are selling to the 
courts of public opinion. Please, try to learn some lessons from Uganda and 
definitely you will realize how perilous your tribal cabals was/were.

        EM
        Toronto

         The Mulindwas Communication Group
        "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
                    Groupe de communication Mulindwas 
        "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"






          odhiambo okecth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
            Ronald,

            You are spot on. 40 years is such along time not to learn anything.

            Oto

            Ronald Edari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
              Sang:

              You have spoken and we hear you! It will be difficult to see how 
the displaced
              Agikuyu can return to the their homes in the Rift Valley in the 
light of
              of the intrasigency of the Agikuyu hard liners in the Kibaki 
government!

              Leaders may make political deals, but this will not change 
anything for 
              wananchi. They are fed up and they want a real "change" and that 
is to get
              rid of Kibaki and his "thugs"! 

              Here is the real story:
              Act I
              It was Jaramogi Oginga who orchestrated the installation of 
Kenyatta
              to the presidency of Kenya by refusing to form a KANU government 
              without Kenyatta! The chant then was "No uhuru without Kenyatta"!

              When Kenyatta was released and formed the KANU government, he
              eventually marginalized Jaramogi Oginga, jailed him and finished 
his
              political career. The person who orchestrated this development was
              none other than Tom Mboya. 

              After Tom Mboya had outlasted his usefulness, he was assassinated!

              Act II
              It was Raila who orchestrated the dislodging of Moi from power 
through
              the so-called "Rainbow Coalition". After that there was the 
expectation of
              power-sharing and constitutional reforms. But all that did not 
happen.

              Act III
              ODM was formed from a multi-ethnic formation that saw an 
incredible
              co-operation of the different tribal groupings from  Mombasa to 
Kisumu!
              Last year, I was in Kenya from December 20th to January 28th, and 
I was
              both: depressed by the pathetic state of the country and uplifted 
by the resolve
              of the wananchi in taking matters in their own hand in changing 
the conditions
              of their existence!

              We have reached a critical turning point and I would urge Raila 
and ODM not
              to yield an inch in anything that smells like a "compromise"! 40 
years from the
              Kenyatta era are enough for some people to learn that things have 
indeed changed!
              If they cannot accept that then they have to be made to accept 
that the hard way!

              Mw. Edari




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