That is a very ridiculous  example. What does UK control in United States as 
United States controls in Africa to an extent of Condolesa Rice deciding the 
fate of a Kenyan election? Some how we need to reason as if we are sober.

EM
Toronto

 The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
            Groupe de communication Mulindwas 
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Fubara David-West 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 11:10 PM
  Subject: [abujaNig] Re: [ChatAfriK] [TheBlackList-2] Re: WHY AREN'T WE 
TALKING ABOUT THE CONGO?


        Africans must stop this nonsense.  The Berlin Conference tells us 
something about history, but it does not explain the carelessness of Africans 
themselves.  It is as if Americans are today blaming the meltdown on Wall 
Street, on something Great Britain might have done to the United States during 
the colonial period. The primary blame for the cultural, political and economic 
disasters of Africa must be placed on Africans, not on European colonialism and 
imperialism.

        I thank you.

        Fubara David-West.





        --- On Sat, 11/8/08, reggieakpata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

          From: reggieakpata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
          Subject: [ChatAfriK] [TheBlackList-2] Re: WHY AREN'T WE TALKING ABOUT 
THE CONGO?
          To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
          Date: Saturday, November 8, 2008, 3:33 AM


          An East African friend traced African ethnic ties for me that 
          included things like the Kikuyu areas extending - from Kenya - to the 
          region where the Lord's Army holds sway in Uganda. Ethnicities 
          were "clevaged" by the 1884-85 conference so this Tutsi/Congolese 
          tussle is complicated by cross border ethnic alliances, fueled by 
          mineral wealth. They're - the UN - sending in the "Colonial Soldier" 
          to "do his thing"; the colonial borders spell death for Africans and 
          security to the colonialists as "continuity" , a tenuous thread at 
          best. If Lumumba had left Katanga alone and not sent in Mobutu to 
          kill/slaughter Tsombe's people, maybe the agency would have been hard 
          pressed to find someone willing to kill Patrice, chop him into pieces 
          and then burn the pieces.
          My brother, who's right in this case? Naim make Africans dey siddown 
          look; none of it makes any sense.
          Reg

          --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com, Fubara David-West <davidwest62@ ...> 
          wrote:
          >
          > What is missing in all of these kinds of analysis is the role of 
          the Africans themselves.  
          > The CIA, American schemes, the role of imperialism and neo-
          colonialism, may be, but what is it about Africans,  that in 2008 
          they cannot rise up to the challenge of all of these presumed plots 
          by those foreign forces? 
          >  
          > We are not talking about the Congo, because Africans are a careless 
          people, whose historical astigmatism pushes them further and further 
          back into the dark recesses of history, even as the world moves into 
          higher and higher planes of post-industrialism.  It is 
          > in that context that we might begin to fully comprehend the 
          political, economic and cultural decadence of places like Nigeria, 
          and the fact that from Nigeria to South Africa, from Libya to Egypt, 
          Africans are incapable or unwilling to put an end to these disasters 
          on their continent.
          >  
          > I thank you.
          >  
          > Fubara David-West   
          > 
          > 
          >  
          > 
          > 
          > 
          > 
          > --- On Fri, 11/7/08, Runoko Rashidi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
          > 
          > From: Runoko Rashidi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
          > Subject: [TheBlackList- 2] Re: WHY AREN'T WE TALKING ABOUT THE 
CONGO?
          > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], TravelwithRunoko@ yahoogroups. com, 
          globalafricanpresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] com, 
          GlobalAfricanPresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.com, 
          luv4self_network@ yahoogroups. com, TheBlackList@ ..., 
          young_Black_ intellectuals@ yahoogroups. com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
s.com, 
          [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com, SonsofAfrika@ yahoogroups. com, 
          HappilyNaturalDay@ yahoogroups. com, ChatAfrique@ yahoogroups. com, 
          TheBlackList@ yahoogroups. com, Openyourthirdeye@ yahoogroups. com, 
          [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, 
          goldengrovenabaclis @yahoogroups. com, TrueBlackness@ yahoogroups. 
com, 
          [EMAIL PROTECTED] ., BuildingAfricanLibr [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.com, 
          AfricanWarriorTradi [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.com, 
          abibitumikasa@ yahoogroups. com, 
          AfricanWarriorTradi [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com, GlobalAfricanPresen ce-
          [EMAIL PROTECTED] com, BeliefsAndReligion@ yahoogroups. com
          > Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 9:43 PM
          > 
          > 
          > 
          > 
          > 
          > 
          > 
          > Greetings Runoko,
          >  
          > I could not agree with you more regarding the situation in the 
          Congo. This is the most critical challenge our African family is 
          facing and should be the first foreign policy endeavor of this new 
          African president of the united states. I am doubtful that it will 
          be, given the many reactionaries  and establishment figures he is now 
          considering for his cabinet. He only has 1 black person as part of 
          his transition team which is not an encouraging sign. 
          >  
          > Of course, this is a crisis that has it's genesis in the cia backed 
          assasinantion of Patrice Lumumba nearlly 48 years ago. The 
          stabilization of the Congo, the plundering of it's resources and the 
          genocide against it's people within this period, would never have 
          happened if Congo's independence had been respected. While we can't 
          forget that "Butcher of Belgium", king leopold for the incalcuable 
          savagery and exploitation he and his minions subjected the Congo too, 
          this most recent assault against the Congo is american driven.
          >  
          > This episode began in April of 1994 when u.s. trained traitors Paul 
          Kagame and his RPF, shot down the palne carrying the Hutu Presidents 
          of Rwanda and Burundi which instigated the "Rwandan Genocide". 
          Information that has been uncovered since then, clearly indicates 
          that this genocide was used as a cover for the RPF to first invade 
          and take over Rwanda in 1994, with the ultimate goal of invading the 
          Congo and steal it's resources, which it did in 1998. I would highly 
          recommend reading Wayne Madsen book, "Genocide and Covert Action in 
          the Congo, 1993 to 1999". I would also recommend reading the 
          transcript from Rep. Cynthia Mckinney's 2001 hearings on the invasion 
          and plundering of the Congo. For updated information on the Congo, I 
          suggest visiting friendsofthecongo. org.
          >  
          > What you will find, is that the Tutsi criminal Laurent Nkunda, so-
          called rebel, is one of Paul Kagame's henchmen operating under the 
          pretext that's he's protecting fellow Tutsis while hunting members of 
          the Interahamwe in the eastern region of the Congo. His real objctive 
          is to steal Congo's resources and kill and displace as many Congolese 
          as he can get away with. He is doing this of course with the support 
          of neocon backed Paul Kagame who is armed by the united states and in 
          turn provides arms to Laurent NKunda to carry out this slaughter of 
          Congolese people.
          >  
          > Many people are beginning to mobilze to remind Barack Obama not to 
          betray the promiise of his candidacy. Without question, our global 
          African family must make it known to him and the people around him, 
          that the situation in the Congo, despite all of the other challenges 
          that we face in this world, is our most pressing concern. 
          > 
          > Runoko, what I forgot to mention in my previous response, is that 
          as Barack Obama ascends to the upper eschelons of a white power 
          structure such as the united states (the praetorian guard of global 
          white supremacy), he will be exposed to an unimaginable level of 
          evil. One of those evils will of course be what is taking place in 
          the Congo.
          > 
          > Harold
          >  
          > ============ ========= ========= ========= ===
          > 
          > 7 November 2008
          > 
          > Greetings Family,
          > 
          > I love the Barack Obama victory. I followed the pre-election polls 
          and the campaign very closely from wherever I have been in the world. 
          I don't think that I am naive enough to believe that fundamental 
          changes are going to happen but I hope for the best. To me, it is the 
          symbolism of Barack Obama that is important. But I have been sitting 
          here thinking for the past couple of days that shouldn't we be 
          talking about the Congo a lot more?
          > 
          > I am certainly not an authority but from all that I can gather 
          parts of the Democratic Republic of the Congo has been a hellish 
          places for decades now and perhaps never more so than right now.  
          Millions of African lives have been lost and great atrocities have 
          taken place.
          > 
          > Shouldn't we as African people be focusing on the nightmare taking 
          place in Central Africa? I ask you.
          > 
          > In love of Africa,
          > 
          > Runoko Rashidi
          >

       



   
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