Robert Ssenkindu
Suppose some one wants to die and she goes stands on a bridge and falls down.
Suppose she fails to die, but simply breaks some borns, the Police brings in
an ambulance and takes her to hospital and she survives.
Can she be charged and if so what is the charge?
EM
Toronto
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From: Robert Ssenkindu
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Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 8:00 PM
Subject: {UAH} Re: [Ugnet] HE COMMITED SUCIDEIN FRONT OF LIVE ONLLINE AUDIENCE
Mr Mulindwa Edward,
In most common law countries, a person who aids,a bets, counsels or procuress
another to kill himself is guilty of murder as an accomplice, which in this
case is reduced to manslaughter(voluntary). However, it is again, in common law
no offence for an omission, that is a failure to act( which in this case is a
failure to prevent the victim from committing suicide) where no statutory
obligation is imposed. So those who gives instructions on how to do it(suicide
in the case) would probably be found liable whereas those who merely watched
him and didn't aid him in anyway whatsoever would walk free without being
questioned, merey because it is no statutory obligation for them stop no one
from committing suicide.
" I prefer liberty with danger than peace with slavery"----Jean Jaqueas
Rousseau
" Apolitician thinks on the next election - a statesman of the next
generation" James Freeman Clarke
" The State calls its own violence, law;but that of the individual crime" -
Max Stirner "The Ego and His Own (1845)"
"The people of Asia were slaves because they had not learned how to pronouce
the word 'no' -Winston Churchill.
"The more corrupt the state,the numerous the laws- Cornelius Tacitus
"Annals"(c.116.A.D)"
SR. Sveritanien.
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Subject: {UAH} Re: [Ugnet] HE COMMITED SUCIDEIN FRONT OF LIVE ONLLINE AUDIENCE
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:11:50 -0500
Gwokto
This kid did every thing on camera, they saw him having the medications and
they cheered on him as he was taking it, for all we know they even advised him
on how to mix it. Forums are a source of great information, there is some one
that knows some thing and how it can be done better. Look at the guy in UK that
blew up him self on camera in a forum, they knew he was going to blow up him
self, they asked him to cock the gun and how shooting on a chick blows up the
dam brains. And I am telling you at age 19 this is great it is actually
hilarious if you can blow up your self on camera for all to see.
So I ask should we charge them? And what is the offence?
EM
Toronto
The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
Groupe de communication Mulindwas
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
----- Original Message -----
From: Peter-Rhaina Gwokto
To: 'Mulindwa Edward' ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 7:01 PM
Subject: RE: [Ugnet] HE COMMITED SUCIDEIN FRONT OF LIVE ONLLINE AUDIENCE
Problem, EM, is that he was said to have pulled it before but never carried
it thru. However, 1500 watching means something else. They wanted to witness it
and, as stated, some encouraged him to go ahead. I could make my breakdown of
the 1500 this way:
1-Those who encouraged him to do it
2-Those who doubted he would do it
3-Those who doubted the potency of his concoctions
4-Those who tried to stop him (this must me first timers who took him
seriously)
5-Those who were just eager to see someone die - live on camera. Some
people get a kick out of sadistic behaviours. I hear some (excuse me for the
expression) even ejaculate with the excitement.
6-Those who were just there to witness the spectacle
7-Those who thought he was simply an attention-seeker
8-Some spectators were actually contemplating suicide and wanted to see the
young man's painless procedures.
Whichever way you look at it, he set the ball rolling for his own demise.
If it is true that he pulled the hat trick before and many doubted him this
time, then the fact he failed to carry out the first episode must have driven
him to be real this time because he worried folks would say he was a wimp. So
he pulled it finally.
My dilemma though is, why would anyone of the 1500 who thought he joked
about the scheme in the past, decide to be on the spectators seat without
alerting the authorities. These folks are all sick - they are all members of a
cyber cult who knew the boy. I bet a few of them will soon do themselves in the
same way.
I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message.
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From: Mulindwa Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 6:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [Ugnet] HE COMMITED SUCIDEIN FRONT OF LIVE ONLLINE AUDIENCE
Muzeeyi Gwokto
Let us think about this issue from another angle, 1500 people were in this
chat room and they you this kid was committing suicide. Should they be
arrested? If so what should they be charged with? If I know that some one in a
forum wants to end her life is it my responsibility to stop it?
Just on record, in Canadian law it is not a crime to commit suicide.
EM
Toronto
The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
Groupe de communication Mulindwas
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
----- Original Message -----
From: Peter-Rhaina Gwokto
To: 'Mulindwa Edward' ; 'The First Virtual Network for friends of Uganda'
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Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 6:22 PM
Subject: RE: [Ugnet] HE COMMITED SUCIDEIN FRONT OF LIVE ONLLINE AUDIENCE
Holieeee cow...! Daaaayiuuuuumnnn....! He must be deeply mental to do
this. Catholics believe suicide is sacrilegious and a definite ticket to Hell.
Isn't losing one's life as well as a seat in Heaven double jeopardy? Ya
right...! like we know...!
I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message.
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Subject: [Ugnet] HE COMMITED SUCIDEIN FRONT OF LIVE ONLLINE AUDIENCE
Florida teenager commits suicide in front of live online audience
By Rasha Madkour, The Associated Press
MIAMI, Fla. - A South Florida teen died of a lethal drug overdose in
front of a live online webcam audience 12 hours after he started blogging about
his plan to commit suicide, an investigator said Friday.
Abraham Biggs, 19, died Wednesday from a toxic combination of opiates and
benzodiazepine, a drug used to treat insomnia and depression, said Wendy Crane,
an investigator with the Broward County medical examiner's office. At least one
of the drugs was prescribed to him and it's unclear how he got the others,
Crane said.
Some of those watching encouraged Biggs, others tried to talk him out of
it, and a few were debating whether the dose he took was lethal, Crane said.
It's unclear how many people were watching.
Biggs stated his intentions on a forum at bodybuilding.com, where some
users said they did not take him seriously because he had made previous
statements about killing himself, Crane said. Biggs posted a link from there to
Justin.tv, a site that allows users to broadcast live videos from their
webcams.
Someone finally notified the moderator of the body building site's forum,
who traced the teen's location to Pembroke Pines and called police, Crane said.
Biggs was dead by the time they got to his house around 3:30 p.m. Wednesday,
Crane said. He had started blogging at 3 a.m.
"He was just seen laying on the bed at that point," she said.
Condolences poured into his MySpace page, where the mostly unsmiling teen
is seen posing in a series of pictures with various young women.
A woman who answered the phone at Biggs' home and identified herself as
his sister said the family was still dealing with his death and declined
immediate comment.
Biggs' father, Abraham Biggs Sr., told ABCNews.com that he was not home
when his son died. He said his son struggled with depression and had been
prescribed benzodiazepine to treat bipolar disorder. Biggs had been "doing
better," his father said. "He was a good kid."
The elder Biggs said he was upset that Justin.tv streamed his son's
suicide live.
"There seems to be a lack of control as to what people put out on the
Internet," the elder Biggs said. "There's a lot of garbage out there that
should not be, and unfortunately this was allowed to happen."
In a statement, Justin.tv CEO Michael Seibel said: "We regret that this
has occurred and want to respect the privacy of the broadcaster and his family
during this time."
Messages left with the body-building website were not immediately
returned Friday. A spokesman said Pembroke Pines police are investigating but
declined further comment.
Crane said she knows of at least one other case in which a South Florida
man shot himself in the head in front of an online audience, although she
didn't know how much viewers saw.
In Britain last year, a man hung himself while chatting online.
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