Mwami Ssemuwemba

So in essence you are stating that UPC damaged Uganda more than the Movement has. I wonder how simple that statement will be swallowed by any intelligent Ugandan.

Now having reached at this low, one might add as well that if we still even have any out there.


EM
Toronto


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----- Original Message ----- From: "Abbey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ugandans at Heart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 7:43 PM
Subject: {UAH} Re: UPC is a hopeles!/Wambuga/Nsubuga



''just as I pray to Abbey to defend his National Resistance Movement-
Organization to the death.''

Mr.Wambuga,
With due respect sir, I'm not a supporter of NRMO at all. However, i
said that given a forceful choice to vote between them and UPC, i go
for the former(NRMO). I dont think that makes me NRMO,does it?

Abbey


On Nov 26, 12:22 am, B Wambuga2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Mw. Nsubuga,
Thank you for your emotive indulgment. But I will hasten to say that as Ugandans we all deserve the right to engage and indulge through our cherished freedom to debate the future of our home ground. In deed by your words "...democracy is an instrument employed to propel ideas freely without huddles in the way". Boy I could not agree more with you.

Having said that, let me mention that I sensed some high voltage in your assertion about who is best to deliver and lead Uganda. Again you mentioned that "sometimes, those ideas are unpopular, but pointing to the future...". Again I could not agree with you more.

It is in that spirit that we should give credit where it is due; I know we may not like it because it comes from someone we just do not like, but if we are obliged then let us take and swallow it nevertheless.

I know you just do not like Obote out right. I do not blame you, and do not fault you either. You are a Uganda after all, and it is absolutely your right not to like him. I mean there is no constitutional law any where that stipulates that all Ugandans must like Obote. I for one do not like Amin for absolutely personal reasons, although, in fact my position would be upheld by his ultimate disruption and rapture of Uganda. In fact you propably might have come across some Ugandans who thought it was incumbent of your to like him. I do not want to be apologetic for such behaviour since we are all responsible for our individual behaviour and conduct. We as democrates must not condone such uncouthed trends in our national politics. That said, it is imperative on us to reach above those petty "house-keeping" rivalry and hatred and do something remarkable for our own national existence and the future of our children and all those we love. I noticed you called the Uganda Peoples Congress chaps as "brilliant". That is the spirit we need in this democratic dispensation; and I applaud you for that. The onus is on us to rise above the fray of backward political discourse and challenge our dear brothers and sisters on the best, if not optimum way forward.

I think it would be wrong for me to mention that it would be a total waste of energy to say that Uganda Government under Obote did not do any thing for Uganda for eternity. I do not know what you would have personally like to see Oboteas a person do, but I am convinced that given the adversity that existed then, The government under Obote's Uganda Peoples Congress leadership managed to first upgrade all the 18 dispensaries that were set up by "Jajja Omungereza" to grade one hospitals and built 22 more hospitals and built dispensarries in each county (magomboloa), and through the Ministry of Health, promulgated improved healthy practices, all of which provided for improved health of the citizens (eg including distribution of free "Tandaruas" mosquito nets), These dispensaries were to be upgraded to grade one (or A) hospitals. The existing grade one (or A) hospitals were to be upgraded to regional (read district) referral hospitals, and Mulago would be a fully fledged National Research and Health Institution (hence upgrading Makerere Medical School to yet a higher standard). Secondly, it was Obote's Uganda Peoples Congress government together with other Ugandans working together who upgraded the national road networks to grade A Trans Africa highway, and all the local road networks were generally upgraded from feeder networks down to the road leading to the villages (call parishes). Third, schools under Obote's Uganda Peoples Congress government were enhanced and improved to provide people like me with almost free education in the lowere levels and free school from O'levels up through University level. 36 senior secondary schools were built to accommodate the increasing number of Ugandans who were increasinglt attending schools. This was a far cry from only the children of the chosen royalties and upper class members of the community who could go to "well cultured and tailored schools". Just likemany million other Ugandans regardless of which political party you voted for we all stood to gain together.

One thing that I must mention here is that by the way the first five year development program was conceived together with President Sir Edward Fredderick Muteesa in Office. So the credit goes to both of them as our National Heros. So if you follow my arguement here I am strictly looking at Uganda as built by both men, and all the other Ugandans who contributed in many ways to build our country. This is where I then hav a problem with Amin when he disrupted the development and progress in more than one way (first when he unilaterally attacked the Lubiri because he feared Mengo was closing on him about his grand theft from Congo. second, when he staged the c1971 coup to put a final grave stone on Uganda's development progress, and finally, when he murdured Bendicto Kiwanuka our Chief Justice.) That was gross and I do not regret what befell him in 1979.

Now, Nsubuga, you may have noticed that I have not mentioned anything about Ochieno here. Yes, I do not speak for him in any way. As for Obote the person, I also do not speak for him. In fact I just do not waste my time speaking for people period. My concern as a citizen is to speak for development and progress in my country. My duty is to give credit where it is due. I credit heroic culture ot all who deserve it, incuding Sir Fred Muteesa, Ignatius Musaazi, Milton Obote, and Bendicto Kiwanuka. These are men who should be honoured as representatives who epitomized our struggle for Independence, Freedom, Liberty and Development. People may debate, or even call names on who their individual Heros are, but this would relegate the debate to a really low level. In the miltary arean I would put Nkwanga, Kayiira, and Oyite in the same basket as our soldiers of "Pease". SOmetimes we waste too much time splitting hair with the erratic beleif that we are being objective and intelligent. Political Parties are mere vehicles and colours that we have been given the graceful opportunity to use to project our ideas and personal opinions as to thw best way forward. Whether it is Uganda Peoples Congress, Forum for Democratic Change, National Resistance Movement-Organization, Peoples Progressive Party, Democratic Party, or whatever we have out there, it is not for us to even mention the philosophical fate and social destiny of ny of them. Let us spare ourselves the political exuberance and spoils of dogmatic and ignorant fights. I pray that you be very satisfied with Forum for Democratic Change, and defend it to the death, and I also pray to Ochieno to defend his Uganda Peoples Congress to the death, just as I pray to Abbey to defend his National Resistance Movement-Organization to the death. So you see, it really does not matter what colour we are all wearing. It just turns that we all just do not agree on one particular party. And so be it. One consolation is that the Democratic Party survived its defeat in 1962, and hsa lived to see the sun rise today. It is now upon the current generation of that party to put it back in order if they still beleive in its canons. Just as it is upon the Uganda Peoples Congress generation to do what they want for their party, National Resistance Movement-Organization is also being forced to come to terms with the realities of the day. Forum ofr Democratic Change is not being spared either. So there is enought castigation and defamation making the rounds here.

So good luck Nsubuga...


Bwambuga wa Balongo
Gen. Otafiire said: "This is a capitalist economy. Capitalism has no human face. Man eats man; it's survival for the fittest." Remind General Otafiire that Capitalist Economy with no 'Capital' is very similar to a eunuch.

--- On Tue, 11/25/08, John Nsubuga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: John Nsubuga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: {UAH} UPC is a hopeles!/Wambuga
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, November 25, 2008, 4:53 PM


MR Wambuga,

I thank you. Among other things, democracy is an instrument employed to propel ideas freely with out huddles in the way. Sometimes, those ideas are unpopular, but pointing to the future.. President Obote never even attempted to put in place any mechanisms that were meant to safeguard Uganda's interests as a country, on a regional setting, but also internationally. He was absorbed into him self, and preoccupied with how to servive for another day as president. But as I've said before, the wounds we see on UPC are self inflicted and the party is in intensive care. Its surrogates are not helping either, for they are still trapped in the rhetoric of cheap pokopoko. That strategy worked then because, we had one radio station, one TV channel, two supper markets the size of former junior minister Mukula's bathroom. The list is long.

The other day, my friend Mr Othieno Joseph asked me a how UPC could have managed to run things peacefully when Museveni was in the jungle firering. I asked him to tell me how the same Museveni has managed to keep him self afloat for over two decades with Kony up there, the ADF and Besigye's rebels in the west I hear . I have never heard from him. In Russia, the Chechen rebels are still there, the Tamil tigers are still active, the Bask rebels in Spain are working, I can go on, and on.... The small things you have mentioned has Obote's major achievements, are a disgrace to us. Those are small things for any body to even mention to an entire country. Uganda was handed over to Obote by the colonial masters in a fantastic shape, but how was it when Amin removed him?

The only time he would have proved him self was in the 80's but we all know what happened. Obote failed because he did not have the skills to lead for others to follow. He failed to tame his generals as well and ...

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