Mwami Robert Ssenkindu
I have carried on this discussion for many many years, and I have posted many
straight questions to no answers, yet I have not posted any militaristic
questions but some very basic standard questions to at minimum give any
intelligent picture to any intelligent person. The best I have got is abusive
languages but no response. I decided to take the same discussion into a New
Vision forum, again I asked the serious straight questions and I was
unsubscribed from the forum, and not only unsubscribed from the forum but my
computer was blocked from logging to New Vision website, I cannot read the
paper as I cannot even access the archives. And one cannot help but wonder
about this very mysterious man, a man that does not get old, yet he was shown
initially to be older than Museveni and today Museveni is older than him. Konny
lives in the jungle and he has lived into the jungle for almost twenty years,
yet he looks far better than Museveni that lives in a state house. I have
watched the U tube you have posted, actually that is not telling as the many
various episodes I have seen, there are some that are way better that this.
So again Mwami Ssenkindu I will take you back to the very basics or common
sense. You claim there are atrocities committed in the North. Does it make
sense to you that Konny is fighting for the Langis and Acholis yet committing
atrocities to the same people? Really Mwami Ssenkindu does that make a damn
sense to you? So he attacks Uganda government and he fights with the government
soldiers so that he can save the Northerners from the movement, but in the mean
time he turns around and he kidnaps Northerners and cut off their ears? Does
that add up to you sir? But I guess it adds up to you because during my stay in
UAH I have at minimum understood that you actually believe that Uganda
government, a government of UPC then sent its own soldiers into Luwero under
the umbrella of UNLF and instructed them to kill all UPC card carrying members.
If that reasoning is not twisted then we should shortly expect UPDF to start
killing Banyankore and Bakiga.
Mwami Ssenkindu just for your education, I want you to join any Congolese
forum, you see those Congolese people tell a great tell, and I will tell you
right now that when the Dr Kiiza Besigye's attacked Eastern DRC, they started
to cut off the ears of the children, both the Hutu and Congolese children. We
questioned why this had happened exactly as it was happening in the North.
Uganda government came back with an explanation that it was Konny that was
fighting in E DRC. When the international community started to pick on the
similarities, the Besigye's ended the cutting off of body parts in Eastern DRC.
I want you to look at the similarities where UPDF goes, massive rapes have
happened in E DRC as in Northern Uganda, cutting off ears and limbs has
happened in both, raping of men has happened in both regions, is it a stretch
to state that these atrocities are committed by UPDF?
But let me ask you this one as well. Mwami Ssenkindu how does Konny and LRA put
a massive war in the North, so massive that the government has to remove the
population out of their homes into camps, for almost twenty years, yet there is
no single inch controlled by Konny? Let me repeat. As we speak today there has
never been a place in Northern Uganda that is under Konny's control, not an
inch, not a foot, not a parish, not a district. As far as I get information
from Northern Uganda, all Uganda government services are running as they should
run, for example there is no area that failed to hold an election due to the
war, I asked Mwami Kateregga a member in UAH and a reporter of Uganda New
Vision, if he knows of any place in the North that he can not go to due to LRA,
and he said as far as he knows it does not exist. If Kateregga wants to go and
cover any story in any part of Northern Uganda tomorrow, he will reach that
place. So Mwami Ssenkindu, how does Konny fight a massive and long war to a
state to keep millions of people in camps for years when he does not control
any area? When NRA was fighting in Luwero, would a news reporter go and report
from let us say Nakaseke?
Lastly Mwami Ssenkindu. Do you know of any Muganda soldier, or Munyankole
soldier that has been brought back into Southern Uganda for he has been killed
in this war? When did Uganda government hold a funeral of a UPDF soldier last
that was killed by Konny soldiers? Two million people are in camps Ssenkindu
due to this war, have you seen any graves created by those returned into
Buganda or western Uganda in caskets? Do you seriously believe that we have a
very massive war in the North, where UPDF soldiers do not die but the only
people that die are Langi's and Acholis but killed by LRA? Does that really
make sense to you sir?
I will go on record that since the "War" was declared in the North I have been
in the region five times.
EM
Toronto
The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
Groupe de communication Mulindwas
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Ssenkindu
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [email protected]
Cc: Nyar Nyar'Onyango ; Oryema Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 9:18 PM
Subject: {UAH} Re: Uganda rebel Kony again a ‘no-show’
Bwana Mulindwa Edward,
So you mean that there is no such a thing as an insurgency(now halted for the
sake of the delayed peace deal) in the North led by a man called Joseph Kony?
What about that man whose images are captured by both photo and video cameras
clad in military fattigues? Check out the following for example
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0kTzWsbC90
Is your assumption that, that man is a mere fabrication by the gov't for
monetary purposes from donors? If so how about the alleged atrocities? Are
they comitted by the gov't just to justify the existence of a non-existing
insurgent,again ,on monetary grounds? Please elaborate on this if you have a
spare time.
" I prefer liberty with danger than peace with slavery"----Jean Jaqueas
Rousseau
" Apolitician thinks on the next election - a statesman of the next
generation" James Freeman Clarke
" The State calls its own violence, law;but that of the individual crime" -
Max Stirner "The Ego and His Own (1845)"
"The people of Asia were slaves because they had not learned how to pronouce
the word 'no' -Winston Churchill.
"The more corrupt the state,the numerous the laws- Cornelius Tacitus
"Annals"(c.116.A.D)"
SR. Sveritanien.
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Subject: {UAH} Re: Uganda rebel Kony again a ‘no-show’
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:32:02 -0500
Ugandans
This is what frustrates me from Ugandans. Konny has never been seen any where
ever since these concocted talks started, Konny has never attended even a
single one of them, but Robert Ssenkindu thinks that Konny is actually in
Garamba and is holding talks with Uganda government. To Ssenkindu, he has seen
talks between two parties when one party has never sat to negotiate face to
face. This lie of talks from Uganda government has been alive for now many
years, and at every single time Uganda government and international
organizations have promised the appearance of Konny not to negotiate but to
sign the agreement. So Konny is not important to the talks he is only good for
the signing. Let me add as well that when ever a promise to sign appears, there
is a Robert Ssenkindu directly or indirectly that gets some money from either
Uganda government or an international organization. How long are you going to
be lied about this Konny and how long are you going to buy that garbage that
Konny actually exists? You see stupid as I am, if I am negotiating with any
one, I would expect to see him face to face as a sign of mutual trust and
respect, for it is those two that will pull any one to a conclusion of signing
any agreement, but Konny has never shown up, it is Museveni and the Ministers
traveling to see crap what.
Have you seen any thing tangible to prove that Uganda government is dealing
with a one called Konny? Museveni the other day stated very well that he has
never instructed Ruhakana Rugunda to speak with Konny, so what do the
Ssenkindu's hold their faith on?
Is there a one called Konny fighting in Northern Uganda?
EM
Toronto
'
The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
Groupe de communication Mulindwas
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Ssenkindu
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 5:01 AM
Subject: {UAH} Re: Uganda rebel Kony again a ‘no-show’
Do they think that he such a fool to sign his own death warrant? If the
fair terms to both partys are not complied with, they should not expect a man
who has spent more than two decades in the jungles to come out easily. Kony, I
think, now feels more home in the jungle than in the real world simply because
he has aclimatized to the jungle environ. So the gov't must seriously
reconsider its position on the matter for the sake of the affected citizens.
" I prefer liberty with danger than peace with slavery"----Jean Jaqueas
Rousseau
" Apolitician thinks on the next election - a statesman of the next
generation" James Freeman Clarke
" The State calls its own violence, law;but that of the individual crime" -
Max Stirner "The Ego and His Own (1845)"
"The people of Asia were slaves because they had not learned how to
pronouce the word 'no' -Winston Churchill.
"The more corrupt the state,the numerous the laws- Cornelius Tacitus
"Annals"(c.116.A.D)"
SR. Sveritanien.
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Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:46:10 -0500
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Subject: {UAH} Uganda rebel Kony again a ‘no-show’
Uganda rebel Kony again a 'no-show' KAMPALA: Efforts to bring a definitive
end to Uganda's two-decade civil were in limbo yesterday after rebel leader
Joseph Kony's no-show at a weekend signing ceremony but the government refused
to lose hope.
"We are not saying the process is finished. Kony should have signed this
weekend, but he didn't. Now the ball is in his court," said Ruhakana Rugunda,
who leads the government of Uganda's negotiating team.
The end of November was identified by some parties as a deadline for Lord's
Resistance Army (LRA) leader Kony to sign the deal that was finalised in April
after two years of negotiations.
But yesterday, Rugunda, whose side has already inked the agreement, said he
might be prepared to give Kony another chance.
"It will depend on the circumstances," he said, when asked if he would
again travel to south Sudan at Kony's request. "It will depend on how serious
the prospect is that he will appear. If we go back, we want to be sure."
Speaking from south Sudan, where Kony had been expected to turn up, LRA
spokesman David Nyekorach-Matsanga would not comment on his absence but said
the LRA might make further statements soon.
Kony reportedly reiterated his demand that warrants for his arrest issued
by the International Criminal Court be withdrawn before he signs a peace deal.
But Rugunda completely ruled out that possibility yesterday.
"Negotiations are complete and will not be re-opened. There are provisions
in the final agreement to deal with his concerns, but first he must sign," he
said.
The next step will largely be determined by the UN and the government of
south Sudan, which has hosted the peace talks, according to Uganda's top
military spokesman.
Major Paddy Ankunda said Uganda would now wait until Joachim Chissano, the
UN special envoy to the LRA-affected areas, and south Sudanese Vice President
Riek Machar, the talks's chief mediator, weighed in.
"We are waiting for their reports," Ankunda said. "And if they can't move
this process further, they have to tell the world."
Ankunda added that any military strategy to deal with the LRA, must involve
all the countries affected by the conflict.
"Kony is staying 2,000km from the Ugandan border, so there must be a
regional response to deal with him," he said.
"The Central African Republic (CAR) must take some responsibility. (The
Democratic Republic of) Congo must take some responsibility, and south Sudan
must take some responsibility."
While Kony's rebellion began in Uganda some 20 years ago, he is currently
based in DR Congo, and his fighters are accused of carrying out atrocities in a
number of different countries in the region.
One leading politician from Kony's home area in northern Uganda expressed
concern that collapse of the talks might lead to more fighting.
"If the peace process falters, it may cause the countries involved to
consider military action, and so provoke Kony into fighting back, possibly near
the Ugandan border," Norbert Mao, chairman of Gulu district, said.
He added the Ugandan military could try to use the collapse of the peace
process to redeem itself, after failing for decades to defeat Kony.
"Having run the war incompetently, the UPDF may decide to now engage in
fierce fighting, as a way of erasing that incompetence," he said.
Mao said people in the region hardest hit by the LRA war are divided about
Kony's failures to sign the deal.
"I'm here in Gulu now, and people are of mixed opinion," he said.
"Some say that the conditions were unfair, and wouldn't give Kony real
peace, only unconditional surrender, while others are anxious about what this
might mean."
The Ugandan government delegation was to return to Kampala yesterday after
two days in a jungle clearing in south Sudan, near the border with DR Congo,
waiting for Kony to appear.
"I am not frustrated," Rugunda said from Juba. "It is not a question of
frustration. These events did not come as a shock." – AFP
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