Ssalongo Ssenoga So were Ugandans reasoning better before education came to Uganda? If that were true, then we should be rejoicing today in the decisions made in the 1900 agreement, but any day you lift anything out of it and dump it into UAH, man you see how controversial every one becomes. In fact many especially Baganda never even want to smell its path. The 1900 agreement is a single document that was drafted by Baganda and The British with no single good advantage to Uganda but to simply hand over our rights and resources to the white man, and I have read it to entirety. Yea let us shut down the schools from Uganda for they are misleading Ugandans, let us shut down political parties for they are dictatorial, let us stop private voting in the booth for when you look at it closely why do you hide your political feeling? Shouldn't it be public that you oppose Museveni? Let us line behind them and those with longest lines lead us. And those American dollars are wrong too we do not need to trade with them for when you think hard you will find that Kenya has Kimbo when Uganda has corn, why don't we just barter trade between us and eliminate the Satanism in the American dollar which creates corruption? Religion that is wrong too for it was brought to confuse us let us shut down the churches Mosques and Cathedrals and replace them with Amasabo.
Gook now you tell me if Museveni has not screwed up this country to his satisfaction? Every single waking up day they turn around and start to reason exactly as he reasoned fresh from the jungle, although they have tested the very damage in his reasoning. This is what critical thinkers call the long term brain damage effect of The Movement. EM On the 49th Thé Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy" Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi "Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko" -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ssalongo Ssennoga Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 11:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: {UAH} Why democracy fails...we're too ignorant Likyadi, Otaamye. Nedda, otamidde. If education has served the purpose of curtailing our thinking, walking into a classroom to improve our critical thinking is an oxymoron whatever that means. On 2/29/12, Richard Mukasa <[email protected]> wrote: > Good one indeed. In social Policy that can be termed as a powerful policy > driver. You see Pojim, the most unfortunate thing is Uganda's education > system. This system was designed by colonialists to enable us believe > whatever is put before us. Whether it is a constitution, Bible, Koran, etc. > And that is why our people do hold strong beliefs in things like elections, > personalities, religions etc. > > Even those that call themselves critical thinkers have never stepped a foot > in a lecture room for the purpose of improving their thinking. Basically, > the force behind most of our people's reasoning is their programmed mindset > which is geared to believe. > > Elections are just an activity but it does not guarantee a good quality of > life. You can elect but that is not a panacea to a successful development > story. You can have federalism but still, it is not a guarantee that you > will never be worried again. Basically, Abbey Semuwemba needs to run this > forum for a long time because it is the only channel that we have to > challenge our people's thinking and doing. But thanks > > "It is not out of fear but out of a feeling for what is right that we should > abstain from doing wrong." "Doing right is based most of all on respecting > the other person." "We ought to do our best to help those who have suffered > injustice." "The wise man belongs to all countries, for the whole world is a > homeland to a great heart." "Poverty in a democracy is as much to be > preferred to so-called prosperity under despots as freedom is to slavery" "I > would rather discover a single causal law than be king of Persia!" > Democritus (ca. 460 BC ca. 370 BC) > > From: edward pojim <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, 28 February 2012, 23:47 > Subject: Re: {UAH} Why democracy fails...we're too ignorant > > > Richard; > > Here's another example of how capitalism can run a government. In the United > States, Thanksgiving Day is celebrated on the last Thursday of November. > Why? Because the owners of the department story, Macy*s convinced FDR to set > aside a four-day weekend in late November to promote Autumn shopping before > winter kicked in. And so, in 1941, FDR signed into law a bill that he had > rushed through Congress, to bring Thanksgiving from Sunday to the last > Thursday in November. > > Macy*s wanted to boost sales, and in the process, we also got a 4-day > weekend! Not a bad trade-off. > > Pojim > > From: Richard Mukasa <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:30 PM > Subject: Re: {UAH} Why democracy fails...we're too ignorant > > > You are very right. Lots of dynamics are at play here. > > > > "It is not out of fear but out of a feeling for what is right that we should > abstain from doing wrong." "Doing right is based most of all on respecting > the other person." "We ought to do our best to help those who have suffered > injustice." "The wise man belongs to all countries, for the whole world is a > homeland to a great heart." "Poverty in a democracy is as much to be > preferred to so-called prosperity under despots as freedom is to slavery" "I > would rather discover a single causal law than be king of Persia!" > Democritus (ca. 460 BC ca. 370 BC) > > From: edward pojim <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, 28 February 2012, 23:09 > Subject: Re: {UAH} Why democracy fails...we're too ignorant > > > Richard; > > I agree with you that there are exclusions to this sweeping statement. For > example, vested interests may challenge a deserving candidate who threatens > their status quo. > > Similarly, group associations - racial, tribal, religious, gender, etc - > have been known to influence objective considerations for assessing a > candidate's suitability for an office. That's why the recent statement by > the black actor, Samuel L. Jackson, that he voted for Obama because they're > both black sent a shock wave in the conservative white America. > > But above all else, raw capitalism as promoted by John Maynard Keynes and > the Bratton Institutions helped answer those questions long ago. Remember it > was Keynes whose ideal government intervention served as model for US > President Roosevelt to launch the New Deal economic development plan. And > don't forget the establishment of the World Bank and the IMF - both Keynes > ideas for a grand centralaized, world-wide control of economic policies > propagated by governments. > > In the process however, economic policies began to control governments. > > Pojim > > From: Richard Mukasa <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 2:36 PM > Subject: Re: {UAH} Why democracy fails...we're too ignorant > > > David Dunning may be right but I think this also happens in first world > countries. > > In developing worlds, people's decision making is simillar to that of people > in First World Countries. For example, the very reasons as to why some > people in Uganda voted for Dictator M7 are the same reasons as to why the > foolish intellectuals of USA fought the HEALTH CARE BILL. The biggest number > of Anti Obama Care are even graduates. > > Today, Obama wants to tax the rich so as to help the poor in America but > some poor people in America are saying that they are happy to be poor. They > are telling him to back-off. > > At the time when Martin Luther King and his mates were fighting racial > seggration in USA, some black people were telling him that they were happy > to continue living like slaves. > > > > > > "It is not out of fear but out of a feeling for what is right that we should > abstain from doing wrong." "Doing right is based most of all on respecting > the other person." "We ought to do our best to help those who have suffered > injustice." "The wise man belongs to all countries, for the whole world is a > homeland to a great heart." "Poverty in a democracy is as much to be > preferred to so-called prosperity under despots as freedom is to slavery" "I > would rather discover a single causal law than be king of Persia!" > Democritus (ca. 460 BC ca. 370 BC) > > From: edward pojim <[email protected]> > To: Ugandans-at-heart <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, 28 February 2012, 21:52 > Subject: {UAH} Why democracy fails...we're too ignorant > > > The democratic process relies on the assumption that citizens (the majority > of them, at least) can recognize the best political candidate, or best > policy idea, when they see it. But a growing body of research has revealed > an unfortunate aspect of the human psyche that would seem to disprove this > notion, and imply instead that democratic elections produce mediocre > leadership and policies. > The research, led by David Dunning, a psychologist at Cornell University, > shows that incompetent people are inherently unable to judge the competence > of other people, or the quality of those people's ideas. For example, if > people lack expertise on tax reform, it is very difficult for them to > identify the candidates who are actual experts. They simply lack the mental > tools needed to make meaningful judgments. > As a result, no amount of information or facts about political candidates > can override the inherent inability of many voters to accurately evaluate > them. On top of that, "very smart ideas are going to be hard for people to > adopt, because most people dont have the sophistication to recognize how > good an idea is," Dunning told Life's Little Mysteries. > He and colleague Justin Kruger, formerly of Cornell and now of New York > University, have demonstrated again and again that people are > self-delusional when it comes to their own intellectual skills. Whether the > researchers are testing people's ability to rate the funniness of jokes, the > correctness of grammar, or even their own performance in a game of chess, > the duo has found that people always assess their own performance as "above > average" even people who, when tested, actually perform at the very bottom > of the pile. [Incompetent People Too Ignorant to Know It] > We're just as undiscerning about the skills of others as about ourselves. > "To the extent that you are incompetent, you are a worse judge of > incompetence in other people," Dunning said. In one study, the researchers > asked students to grade quizzes that tested for grammar skill. "We found > that students who had done worse on the test itself gave more inaccurate > grades to other students." Essentially, they didn't recognize the correct > answer even when they saw it. > The reason for this disconnect is simple: "If you have gaps in your > knowledge in a given area, then youre not in a position to assess your own > gaps or the gaps of others," Dunning said. Strangely though, in these > experiments, people tend to readily and accurately agree on who the worst > performers are, while failing to recognize the best performers. > The most incompetent among us serve as canaries in the coal mine signifying > a larger quandary in the concept of democracy; truly ignorant people may be > the worst judges of candidates and ideas, Dunning said, but we all suffer > from a degree of blindness stemming from our own personal lack of expertise. > Mato Nagel, a sociologist in Germany, recently implemented Dunning and > Kruger's theories by computer-simulating a democratic election. In his > mathematical model of the election, he assumed that voters' own leadership > skills were distributed on a bell curve some were really good leaders, > some, really bad, but most were mediocre and that each voter was incapable > of recognizing the leadership skills of a political candidate as being > better than his or her own. When such an election was simulated, candidates > whose leadership skills were only slightly better than average always won. > Nagel concluded that democracies rarely or never elect the best leaders. > Their advantage over dictatorships or other forms of government is merely > that they "effectively prevent lower-than-average candidates from becoming > leaders."-- > UAH is devoted to matters of interest to Ugandans and Africans in general. > Individuals are responsible for whatever they post on this forum.Follow UAH > on Twitter at:http://twitter.com/#!/UAHFORUM. Follow UAH on facebook at: > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ugandans-At-HeartUAH/132196106801171. To > unsubscribe from this group, send email to: Ugandans-at-Heart > [email protected] or [email protected]. To donate to > UAH activities, click on:http://ugandansatheart.org/donate-to-uah/. Buy our > products at: http://ugandansatheart.org/products-to-buy/. 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