Wow a great deal has been written and from all sides. Let me start by clarifying one thing, there is no leader that will ever come to Uganda with good things like Museveni, Baganda supported him, Coffee prices went up, the country just passed through the war and people wanted a breeze of peace so he got the good will. Museveni actually started way better than Paul Kagame that had an opposition of the majority of the people, the Hutus that make the highest percentage of the population.
Uganda's problem is not leadership it is the population, and it does not matter how many times you change the leadership as long as you have that very same mind set the country is going nowhere. Which reminds me a friend that sat with Stephen Malinga in an air bus heading to Paris, and Malinga asked this individual why he cannot steal the whack of money he had from Uganda government. And at a time this individual was heading to Paris then Japan to buy so much staff for the then OAU that sat in Uganda, he had some sizable cash. So Malinga times him and wanted him to defect from Amin's government. And Malinga's argument was very basic, Iddi Amin is going to go it is only when, why don't you scoop that money declare yourself a refugee and remain out of Uganda, your entire family will join you. This individual responded that you see this is not Amin's money this is Uganda's money and I cannot steal from my country. That is what is missing in Uganda and that is why leaders like Museveni show up and end up the way they are. Rwandese hate Kagame for he is a Tutsi but they love their country. Ugandans hate their leader but turn around and tear their country into pieces. So the population cannot understand that Museveni is a bad leader but let us save this hospital. Remember why hospitals were looted? They were looted for they were "Obote's hospitals". Iddi Amin built a communication system in Uganda of a carrier system where we use radios than physical lines, at his departure Ugandans looted all of them for they were "Amin's phone systems". Ugandans are people that unite national properties to the leaders and not to the state. The moment Olara Otunu became a minister of foreign affairs, his very first thing to do was to try and sell off Uganda house in Manhattan for this was an "Amin's building". Rwandese save everything for Rwanda whether built by a Hutu or a Tutsi these are Rwandese properties. But we are too tribal as well. Stand up today and state that Betty Kamya demanded Uganda government to buy MPs 4X4s, Baganda raise up and call you all names, so if you are a Muganda you can steal all you want as long as you state that you love the kingdom. Stand up today and state that Stephen Malinga stole money from the ministry of defense and see how Easterners come after you !!!! So you have a country where Easterners complain about corruption if a Muganda steals, and yes Edward Pojim went after the VP with the Gavi fund, but when you raise Malinga now he needs a written documentation of your complaint. But we can go as low too, as asking people in a forum this large to spend a moment in recognition of a death of a dear wife of a killer like Tinyefunza. Rwandese have collected almost every member of the past government from almost every country except United States. Can you tell me only one Ugandan that has ever been arrested out here for he was a killer in Uganda? Don't you think we know them? Don't you think we know that Col. Samson Mande killed people in Northern Uganda? But dare start that debate to at minimum encourage the Ugandans in Sweden to at minimum get him arrested, and see how fast you will be humped. And you think Tinyefunza will not follow him? Or you think Museveni will not live in UK happy after? Do you know who is advising Ugandans today on how to build democratic principles in Uganda? It is Salim Saleh, and after Saleh becomes a president of Uganda it is going to be WBK who will fly to Uganda to be a presidential advisor. As long as Salim Saleh promises to offer Buganda federalism, WBK is on the next flight. Doesn't it amaze you that Dr Kiiza Besigye can even be allowed to be a leader of opposition today? No seriously doesn't that amaze any one out there? But Ugandans do not care, what they care about is eating and today here and now, and we move on. With time Ugandans are going to become live-in workers to Rwandese as Rwandese were in Uganda. Give it time let the cards continue falling, you will look for salvation in Uganda and you will not be able to find a job a functioning hospital let alone a firkin bulb with power. You will walk to Kigali and apply for refugee status for if accepted you will access a flipping Aspirin in a hospital. The educated Ugandans are leaving today for countries like United States but the parents they are leaving at home are going to die in Kigali restaurants as dish washers. My God help my poor little souls that my word does not come through as it always does. My name is EM And I live in the Greater Authority of Toronto Thé Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy" Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi "Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko" -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert Atuhairwe Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 11:01 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: {UAH} UGANDANS LET US TAKE A MOMENT AND READ THIS PIECE MAY BE WE WILL PICK UP SOMETHING Gentlemen, ladies, First impression is; President Kagame has a lot of good will and is respected. Respect for leaders plays a big part and they must earn it. Real development takes its seat once leaders have respect and a vision that they strive to bring to real life. Rwandans have definitely learnt from their past and the experiences of neighbouring countries which they keep improving on. Less politicisation polishes makes matters better. Can you believe while Kagame portrays as a darling of many, there are dissenters wanting him out as soon as possible? Can anyone really satisfy a crowd of people? Thank you 0772468064 On 3/21/12, Herrn Edward Mulindwa <[email protected]> wrote: > > Kagame: > <http://one.org/blog/2012/03/18/kagame-people-dont-eat-debates-they-ea > t-food /> People dont eat debates, they eat food > > > > > Mar 18th, 2012 9:40 AM UTC > By Guest Blogger <http://one.org/blog/author/guest-blogger/> > > This is a guest post from Peter Opondo, head of news at NTV Uganda. In > this piece, he uses his encounter with President Kagame to illustrate > Rwandas changing government. This was originally posted on ONE > <http://one.org/africa/blog/people-dont-eat-debates-they-eat-food-kaga > me-tel > ls-rwandans/> s Africa Blog. > > Description: http://one.org.s3.amazonaws.com/images/kagamephoto.jpg > > They call it Umwiherero, literally meaning a retreat or a > getaway for a private meeting in the main local language, Kinyarwanda. > > And indeed the 9th Rwanda National Leadership Retreat was a true > getaway, held at the secluded Military Academy in Gako, Bugesera > district, located 50 km SE of Kigali City and just 20km from the Burundian Border. > > For a Kenyan journalist currently working in Uganda, it was an > eyeopener on how Rwanda is governed. > > It was at one and the same time about a national leadership seeking to > cultivate a shared vision and common goals for the country as well as > about President Paul Kagames towering efforts to steer the country > towards a particular direction. > > I was part of the NTV Uganda crew that got an invitation to attend the > meeting after we had earlier put in a request for a one-on-one > interview with the President. We were told the President would find > some time on the sidelines of the meeting to grant as the interview. > > But we were also excited that we would have the privilege to sit in > and observe as Rwandas top leaders including cabinet ministers, top > technocrats, mayors and diplomats set strategic priorities for the > government over the next one year even as they reviewed performance of > the past year. > > On a drizzly morning of March 4th, the main hall at the Military > academy was filled to capacity for the official opening of the > retreat. As they waited for the arrival of the President, the > gathering was psyching itself up with patriotic songs. > > In one of the songs that had some Kiswahili words, I could gather they > were singing that nobody would build Rwanda other than Rwandans > themselves a thread the President would pick up later in his speech. > > As the singing went, the tall and lanky Kagame gingerly walked onto > the podium without much fuss. > > And after the usual preambles the included the national anthem, the > President rose to the podium for the opening speech where he went on > to dissect what he thought was the main challenge not only for Rwanda > but also for Africa poverty. > > In his analysis, African countries were not truly independent as long > as poverty remained entrenched. > > Depending on the generosity of others demeans us as Africans, it is > pathetic we must change our mindsets about poverty, let us fight for > out integrity as a people, he said in a soft, almost pained tone. > > So why are African countries still poor? Its not because we dont > know what we are supposed to do, it is because we dont do what we > know we are supposed to do, he concluded. > > Its my impression that we could have made more progress than we have > already. We are doing much less than we are capable of, he further stated. > > Energy is a key factor in the fight against poverty. In 2011, Rwanda > had set a target of generating 30.4 MW and connecting 65,000 > households. But during the year, only 5.4 MW was generated even as > 72,227 households were connected meaning demand was stretching supply even further. > > President Kagame was clearly not happy with the situation. > > As your president, I must take responsibility for not pushing for > more funding to the energy sector. I will take responsibility and correct this. > he stated and added ominously but some of you are also going to be > casualties for not doing the right thing. > > A government official told me later on the sidelines of the meeting > that the leadership retreats were also an opportunity to appraise the > performance of senior officials and often those found not to be > delivering ended up losing their jobs. > > We talk too much, we attend to many workshops yet there are no > results people dont eat debates, they eat food, he quipped. > > Although the president had a written speech, he was not reading it. He > was ad-libbing, simply stating his thoughts the sign of a leader who > knows his stuff and trusts himself to make the point without going off message. > > This much was even much more evident at the plenary session, still > under the chairmanship of the president, as the performances of the > various sectors were reviewed. Every often the president would > interrupt a presentation by asking, Isnt this the same issue that we have had over the past two years? > Why havent you solved it? or Did you listen to my speech, we want > action and results, not just empty talk. > > And later when we sat down for our interview he simply restated his > vision for a poverty free Rwanda. Rwanda might be land locked but ideas are not, > he stated. > > Given the central role and dominant that president Kagame is playing > in shaping the future of Rwanda, concern has been raised as to whether > he was doing this at the expense of setting up strong institutions > that would ensure the implementation of the set goals even without him in office. > > In fact, currently there is a push by some supporters of President > Kagame to amend the constitution to remove the two-term limit. Kagame > is currently serving his second seven-year term, which expires in 2017. > > We put that question to him during the interview. It is not a matter > of if but when I leave office, because I will have to go at some > point. What we are doing here (leadership retreat) is just part of > that process of ensuring that we all know where we are headed as a > country and what we are supposed to do to realize that dream. > > Besides the official business at Umwiherero, there were other things > worth noting. > > No. 1 was the youthful nature of leaders in Rwanda, especially the top > technocrats. > > Heres an example: President Kagames chief of staff, Ms Ines Mpambara > is 34. The Finance Permanent Secretary and Secretary to the Treasury, Ms. > Pitchette Kampeta Sayinzoga, is 32! The director of communications in > the office of the President is Yolande Makolo, who is 39. She > describes herself as one of the older people here > > Notice that all these three youthful top technocrats are women. And > that is not by accident. Rwanda is truly empowering its women and it > is actually leading the world on that front. > > After the last elections, Rwanda became the first parliament in the > world with a female majority after women got 44 out of the 80 (55 > percent) seats in the assembly. > > The other thing I noticed in Rwanda was that nearly all top government > officials carry Blackberries. These phones are not status symbols but > tools of work. One official told me they were all on BBM, so they > dont waste taxpayers money calling each unnecessarily. > > Right from the President himself, they are all also on the social > networks especially on Twitter and Facebook, tracking and responding > to any queries about their respective duties. They are technology > savvy, keeping with the times. > > And coming from Nairobi and working in Kampala one can only but admire > the physical infrastructure in Kigali. All streets are neat and lit. I > didnt bump into a single pothole. Skyscrapers are rising in Kigali in > accordance with the citys ambitious master plan. > > The plastic bags that litter the streets in Kampala and Nairobi are > not in Kigali. Theyre actually outlawed. > > Clearly, Rwanda is going places and President Kagame is firmly on the > drivers seat. > > > > > > Thé Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni and > Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy" > Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi "Pamoja na Yoweri > Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko" > > > > -- > UAH is devoted to matters of interest to Ugandans and Africans in general. > Individuals are responsible for whatever they post on this > forum.Follow UAH on Twitter at:http://twitter.com/#!/UAHFORUM. Follow UAH on facebook at: > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ugandans-At-HeartUAH/132196106801171. To > unsubscribe from this group, send email to: Ugandans-at-Heart > [email protected] or [email protected]. 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