Churches do good into society, for example here they feed the hungry, I am not
a follower of Uganda church structure but I am sure they have some communal
service they do in Uganda as well, but they do all these things based on how
much collection they got in the year for Pastors Sheiks and Reverends do not
create money they use what people take in. Will the government fund these
projects and based on what Mathematics? I am so bothered that this has not
caused fireworks in Uganda society and I question the stand of FDC UPC and DP
on it for this is going against a very basic fundamental right.
Where is the opposition with its stand?
EM
On the 49th
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko"
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Mugerwa
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 11:47 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [UAH] CAN UGANDA GOVERNMENT FUND CHURCHES REALLY?
Make no mistake here; the M7 regime wants absolute power to control the Ugandan
people pure and simple. Right now there are only two major institutions the M7
government has tried to break up and control without success: The Buganda
culture and the mighty Catholic Church. This move is nothing else but intended
to systematically target the Catholic Church with its successful and second to
none financial institution - The Centenary Bank.
If the government were genuinely serious about reining in on the crafty
religious sects that crop up, why not develop a strict law to regulate their
formation and activities!
Otherwise, the M7 regime will be violating the fundamental freedom of worship
for Ugandans. The basket collections is a religious ritual - hence part and
parcel of worship. People offer gifts and money to God in appreciation of
whatever they believe is His blessing to them. Now is the government gonna do
that on their behalf? How strange!!!
Paul Mugerwa
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On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 4:13 PM PST Robukui . wrote:
>
>Some countries extend Tax exemption to Churches, which could be considered a
>subsidy of sorts.
>In Germany, There is a 1% Church Tax levied on your pay, that is one percent
>of what you pay in taxes is added to your income tax bill and the church of
>your choosing gets that cash.I wonder if Churches are constitutionally
>protected in the NRA constitution? Starting a church might be the way into
>the middleclass for Ugandans, and wait until the Evangelicals really flood in.
>
>Viele GruBeRobukui
>
>From: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>CC: [email protected]; [email protected]
>Subject: [UAH] CAN UGANDA GOVERNMENT FUND CHURCHES REALLY?
>Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 14:25:11 -0500
>
>Abbey Ssemuwemba This is going to be a very interesting issue let us
>not take it for granted, for churches do not have general standards of
>growth as a syllabus in schools, and the churches are not standard so
>you cannot put the Seventh Day Adventists for example with Catholics,
>you cannot put Moslems on the same level with Anglican, each does their
>own thing different. There are commitments done by churches and Mosques
>for example Catholic church through offerings send their kids abroad to
>a meeting with the Pope at least once a year in any county the Pope
>decides to meet them, Moslems go to Mecca, how does the government
>decide those issues to fund them? And how will it decide what number to
>send? Seventh Day Adventists for example go to The General Conference
>many times it sits in United States or Canada, they send delegates
>depending on what church has what amount of money, how will the
>government decide that? Now do not get me wrong here, I am in
full support with the government in this move, for we have very lately got a
complete new investments into crappy churches and Reverends making a killing
out of people, but how do we control it by refusing them to collect the money?
The moment you turn the church into a government funded sector then all 36
million Ugandans are going to belong to a somehow church. By the way here is
another one, Namirembe is fundraising from its members to refurbish its church,
will the government fund that too? And that question goes to congregations that
collect money to build bigger and new churches, will they walk to the minister
with a plan and a budget? May be the only way to control it is by setting up
standards required for one to register as a church but to educate the
population as well not to dump all their savings into the church. I think this
only requires public education than slamming a full door on them. And if a
Police Force and the army have ghost officers, how will you prevent ghost
prayers? I question if this has been studied at all before getting thrown out
there. It will be very interesting to see how it gets implemented. One issue I
would take with especially well established churches as Anglican and Catholics
with SDA, is sending money to their non-Uganda headquarters, I am very
uncomfortable with that and for a very simple reason we as Ugandans get a very
bad deal out of that. When I came to these countries I was so surprised to
learn that Reverends and Pastors have a retirement package done by the church
headquarters, the ones in our African countries do not have that pension, yet
the money funding these pensions comes from our people and it comes here. I
would stop that, if you are a Catholic Church in Uganda send all your money to
Rubaga than to Rome. That would be a sensible step to be taken by the
government but refusing them to collect money from the parish is unattainable.
And one wonders how this will affect Natasha with her church !!!!!! EM
>On the 49th Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
>"With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy"
> Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi "Pamoja na Yoweri
>Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko" From:
>[email protected]
>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Abbey
>Semuwemba
>Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 7:16 AM
>To: [email protected]
>Cc: WB Kyijomanyi; beti kamya; Nina Mbabazi Rukikaire; Nicholas Ahebwa;
>[email protected]; Uganda Muslim Brothers and Sisters
>Subject: Re: [UAH] LUKE 23:34, Then Jesus said, “Father, forgive them,
>for they know not what they do Friends, I find this very interesting. Why
>would the govt want to be the one maintaining churches and mosques considering
>the financial problems they have got at the moment? Giving something in the
>mosque or churches is part of faith. Isn't the govt biting too much of it
>can't swallow? Katulinde!
>
>AbbeyOn Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 9:02 PM, Hannah Ogwapiti
><[email protected]> wrote:
>--
>"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are
>to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and
>servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."
>---Theodore Roosevelt
>
>-- Abbey Kibirige SemuwembaStalk my blog at:
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