Barigye The man himself has not changed but so have we, we have remained exactly where we were when AMO came to power as a president for there are ways he saw Ugandans and they worried him a whole lot.
Way long ago I advised UNAA officials not to take the organization to Uganda an advice they laughed at, but I had a reason why I advised so, you see as you run these organizations you have a heavy duty to balance your own beliefs, the beliefs of the society you lead, and the differences they have, but you must think about the future as well. My question was simple, today you all are yakking for The Movement, but suppose tomorrow Konny becomes a president of Uganda will you take UNAA to Uganda to be addressed by him? They apparently failed to see that far and simply laughed, but this is what interested me a whole lot, they were underground saying that Konny will never lead Uganda for Museveni is powerful and loved by Ugandans, and today in 2013 we still have their word as stated, yet they now cry him out of power to no success. And this time around he is going to lead them to the crap you have never seen for now he is a true Mulekwa that no one can hold him on any moral grounds if gone wrong. But because they failed to follow that simple basic advice, UNAA remains today, the major single eye-sore of any intelligent person to be identified as a Ugandan in North America publicly. Let me flip the reasoning. I have moderated several forums and for a long while, some 15 years plus or minus, and in those years I have learnt several things, the more members you have the more opinions you have, each member you register in a forum comes with a very different package, and you do not have powers to affect that opinion or you become a dictator. So as a moderator you create a line of what you post as a moderator and as an individual, for the moment you mix the two you end up with a pile of explanations to do. And here is a very good example. Abbey Ssemuwemba decided to stand and post a condolence to the family of the Kagutas. Now forget EM and his publicly detest of the family, just look at it from an open forum of over 12000 members. Let us also propose that EM has not stood up to protest this condolence, and we all have kicked in with we are very sad and we are crying our brains out. And that is very possible for many as you have seen especially Baganda are lining up to cry for Museveni's loss as usual. Let us suppose that down the road as crap can have it, President Obama stands up and makes a statement from the Overall office that the American forces combined with the UPDF managed to get Konny and kill him. Now it becomes a tricky day for Abbey Ssemuwemba to find out what he does. Does he send a condolence to the family of Konny or he does not? And listen to me very carefully, in a forum large as UAH of 12,000 members, you can bet your back side that there is a member or members that support the Konny cause. And they will mourn at his death. How will Abbey Ssemuwemba justify the sending of condolences to the death of Kaguta but not Konny when his forum has members that support both? It is called critical thinking for it is critical. Well let us drop The Konny argument and simply look at Lakwena who is even already dead. Suppose I wake up tomorrow Sunday and post a piece with Lakwena' s son, husband, mother, father or what have you passed away last night. Then what does Abbey Ssemuwemba do as a moderator of the forum of 12,000? Does he send the condolences or he ignores them? Are you sure that in a forum of 12,000 there is no one that believes in Lakwena' s cause? Really? Then you are not informed about grouping population, trust me in this very forum there are people that believe that Lakwena is the best thing to ever happen in Uganda, and if a member of her family passes on, now that Ssemuwemba has opened the doors of sending condolences, I bet I need him to send a condolence to the family of Lakwena. And the moment he refuses to do so, then I need a line he uses to decide that Kaguta can be recognized, but not Konny or but not Lakwena, let alone but not AMO's father. Do you realize how complex it so turns around? That is why when you are a moderator, you do not cross that line for you will have a whole whack of explanation to do for members never forget what you have done. They will remind you what you did and then demand to know why you're not doing it this time around. And it is not easy for sometimes these are members that are your even friends, for example, I have a very close friend who is even a member of my forums, but he supports Raila Odinga to win The Kenyan election, I believe it is a sad story for Kenya if Raila ever wins this election. Can I go into a forum I moderate and go after Raila's supporters including my own members and friends? Hell no we do that on phone or in a private Email. That is the cost of being a moderator of a forum, and by the way it is not easy for I have done it many many years, I know how tough a job it is. Abbey Should have sent the condolences from himself as a private person, but not to drag me into it. For now that I am a member of the forum I also send condolences to Salim Saleh and Muhozi. Are you kidding me !!!!!!!! Am I that senile? EM On the 49th Thé Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy" Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi "Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko" -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Allan Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 6:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [UAH] TO THE MODERATOR/S OF UAH Holy molly! By the way, the old man remain the same person he was before his chaotic "son" became president. On 2/23/13, Robert Ssenkindu <[email protected]> wrote: > > I am out of that game so I decide to eat and drink at m7's loss of his > father. Even God punished Pharoah by taking the life of his son > because he was stubborn and disobdient to him. It's a lesson to every > one that we are all immortal. Kill me today and soon or later you will join me. > > " I prefer liberty with danger than peace with slavery"----Jean > Jaqueas Rousseau " Apolitician thinks on the next election - a > statesman of the next generation" James Freeman Clarke " The State > calls its own violence, law;but that of the individual crime" - Max > Stirner "The Ego and His Own (1845)" > "The people of Asia were slaves because they had not learned how to > pronouce the word 'no' -Winston Churchill. > "The more corrupt the state,the numerous the laws- Cornelius Tacitus > "Annals"(c.116.A.D)" > SR. Sveritanien. > > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [UAH] TO THE MODERATOR/S OF UAH > Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 11:26:11 -0500 > > It goes to show what I have stated every day that Ugandans actually > love Museveni for he has allowed them to steal from their own country. > This death is affecting everybody crying for this affects Museveni who > has allowed them to steal all money from the public purse. Now tell me > how Ssekajja will not hide Amos Kaguta if he showed up, at his door > seeking refuse status? That is why unlike Rwandese Ugandans will never > sue these people, and I can bet you half my pay stab, if Museveni dies > today, Abbey Ssemuwemba is going to start a fund to send UAH > representatives to the funeral. The forum has to be represented for a great man has died. Just watch !!!!!! EM > On the 49th Thé Mulindwas Communication Group > "With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy" > Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi "Pamoja na Yoweri > Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko" > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert > Ssenkindu > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 11:14 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [UAH] TO THE MODERATOR/S OF UAH "We cannot pass the son's > wrongs on to the father." Fine but then we would expect him to assume > a moral duty to go public and condemn his son's criminal acts. Did > he? Man we lost people at those bloody games of m7 so let him grieve, > it at all he has any tears, alone. > > " I prefer liberty with danger than peace with slavery"----Jean > Jaqueas Rousseau " Apolitician thinks on the next election - a > statesman of the next generation" James Freeman Clarke " The State > calls its own violence, law;but that of the individual crime" - Max > Stirner "The Ego and His Own (1845)" > "The people of Asia were slaves because they had not learned how to > pronouce the word 'no' -Winston Churchill. > "The more corrupt the state,the numerous the laws- Cornelius Tacitus > "Annals"(c.116.A.D)" > SR. Sveritanien.To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [UAH] TO THE MODERATOR/S OF UAH > From: [email protected] > Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 11:03:01 -0500 > > EM, I very much agree with you on this, BUT you may I also note that > you're a bit overly harsh with your statement. Surely the moderator > hasno authority to address the third party on our behalf, unless there > is aconsensus to do so. If he felt personaly mournful by the passing > of MzeiAmos Kaguta, he should have expressed his condolences on his > part, andnot all subscribers on UAH. But we should remember that Mzei > Amos Kaguta was a victim of NRA just as many of us are today. I doubt > that he envisaged a peroid whenthe shine on what seemed as a positive > contribution to remove Obotewould end in a complete failure, and die > knowing that the nation is sickand tired of his son. Mzei Kaguta must > have died a lonely death knowingthat the people who wholehearted > supported his son, at one time nowditaste his presidency with vernom. > We cannot pass the son's wrongs on to the father. Why would I hate > allAcholis, Langis and other Northerners because some of them > murdered,raped and tortured my people. Ssekajja > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Frank Mujabi <[email protected]> > To: ugandans-at-heart <[email protected]> > Sent: Sat, Feb 23, 2013 11:30 am > Subject: Re: [UAH] TO THE MODERATOR/S OF UAHDoes one Abbey make 'Baganda' > mourners?On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 7:17 AM, Hannah Ogwapiti > <[email protected]> wrote: On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 11:17 PM, > Herrn Edward Mulindwa <[email protected]> wrote:Dear Moderators I am > one of the very many members you have in your forum UAH and tonight I > have decided to take a moment and file a complaint on how you have > decided to use my name. I fully understand that you do not know much > of my back ground, but I am one of those people that were hurt very > badly by the war that NRA created. And that war was created by a one > Yoweri Museveni a son of Amos Kaguta. The reason I agreed to be a > member of UAH was that I was given a very clear understanding that it > is not a political forum it is not politically bias and it is fair to > all Members. The suffering we had in our district is a very public and > a nationally recognized matter, that I cannot question UAH moderators > not knowing about it, and I have written a great deal about it in this > very forum. And yet today, Abbey Ssemuwemba a main moderator decided > to go into the forum and post a condolence to the death of a one Amos > Kaguta. And the posting stated this is a direct quote We would like > to send our condolences to UAH members: Gen. Salim Saleh (for losing > his father) and Brigadier Muhoozi (for losing his grandfather). May > Mzee Amos Kaguta RIP. Tuliwamu namwe mukunyorwa mukiisera kiino > banaffe. End quote. In this posting, there are very many > assumptions the moderator used, for example he believes that all > members of UAH {Who are more than 12,000 members} including myself, > care to send this message, but he crosses the line to even state that > we all are with the family at this loss. My God whose family was with > my family when my dad was murdered by Movementists in the so called > Luwero war? Was it Salim Saleh or the Muhoozi crap !!!!! And when you > come to think about it, My God how many of us wish we had our fathers die old as this fart? And yet we would not for his children were raping our wives our children and our grandmothers by even camping them. > Amos Kaguta you breast fade a monster for us and that must be publicly > recognized. Now do I have a problem with moderators posting on behalf of us? > Hell no but at minimum I need the moderator to get my opinion if I > want to be included in his personal escapades. For Abbey Ssemuwemba > licking to the Museveni family today has been going on ever since the > fart died, UNAA has knelt on its knees, Joseph Kamugisha has written a > personal letter of condolence, and all is fine as long as you eat from > state coffers. But I do not, so my stand is very clear, I do not care > if Amos is dead, but I question why God took that long to pick him up, > and I honestly do not want to be a part of the Baganda mourners as much as Abbey wants to include me. > And next time this happens I wish I am consulted before I am gobbled > up into we all in UAH, or I will unsubscribe myself from this forum, I > am not here to be used as a number. And I will appreciate if Abbey > Ssemuwemba reposts his condolences with an { We all {Except Edward > Mulindwa ..} And I do not care if all members support this behavior > but use it to learn that next time UAH is going to say we all as > members support this candidate and oppose this, we support this policy > and we oppose this, and I am sorry I cannot go into that silliness for > I am simply too old to do so. I have kept my name clearly anti Museveni for almost 30 years, and today UAH is pleading that I > am sending him condolences. Are you kidding me? Jesus > !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EM > On the 49th Thé Mulindwas Communication Group > "With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy" > Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi "Pamoja na Yoweri > Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko" > -- > UAH is devoted to matters of interest to Ugandans and Africans in general. > Individuals are responsible for whatever they post on this forum.To > unsubscribe from this group, send email to: > [email protected] or Abbey Semuwemba at: > [email protected]. > > > > -- "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or > that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only > unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." > ---Theodore Roosevelt -- > UAH is devoted to matters of interest to Ugandans and Africans in general. > Individuals are responsible for whatever they post on this forum.To > unsubscribe from this group, send email to: > [email protected] or Abbey Semuwemba at: > [email protected]. > > -- > UAH is devoted to matters of interest to Ugandans and Africans in general. > Individuals are responsible for whatever they post on this forum.To > unsubscribe from this group, send email to: > [email protected] or Abbey Semuwemba at: > [email protected]. > > > -- > UAH is devoted to matters of interest to Ugandans and Africans in general. > Individuals are responsible for whatever they post on this forum.To > unsubscribe from this group, send email to: > [email protected] or Abbey Semuwemba at: > [email protected]. > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2238 / Virus Database: 2639/5625 - Release Date: > 02/23/13-- > > UAH is devoted to matters of interest to Ugandans and Africans in general. > Individuals are responsible for whatever they post on this forum.To > unsubscribe from this group, send email to: > [email protected] or Abbey Semuwemba at: > [email protected]. > > > > > > -- > > UAH is devoted to matters of interest to Ugandans and Africans in general. > Individuals are responsible for whatever they post on this forum.To > unsubscribe from this group, send email to: > [email protected] or Abbey Semuwemba at: > [email protected]. > > > > > > > -- > UAH is devoted to matters of interest to Ugandans and Africans in general. > Individuals are responsible for whatever they post on this forum.To > unsubscribe from this group, send email to: > [email protected] or Abbey Semuwemba at: > [email protected]. > > > -- *A positive mind is a courageous mind, without doubts and fears, using the experience and wisdom to give the best of him/herself * We must dare invent the future! **The only way of limiting the usurpation of power by** individuals, the military or otherwise, is to put the people in charge* Capt. 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